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Player ratings Brighton and hove albion V R &D
- Thread starter CliveWalkerWingWizard
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brightonrock
Dodgy Hamstrings
- Jan 1, 2008
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Smith- 3/10 Terrifying. Doesn't command his area, shouts a lot to look busy but pretty shit. Only given him 3 for distribution in the 2nd half. Get well soon FDM.
Hoyte- 2/10 R&D winger was all over him like a fat kid on a cupcake. Looked class early in his spell but very, very pony on basis of that display.
Elphick- 5/10 Positionally ok, but humped everything 70 yards plus.
Virgo- 4/10 Might as well have set up a catapult at centre back to pump it over the top. Think Gus might have made his mind up about him.
El-Abd- 3/10 Would look out of his depth in a puddle. Tried hard, but even when he switched to the right he was still awful. Very kind of him to escort their winger 60 yards for the 2nd goal.
Bennett- 6/10 Showed flashes of his class when he got the chance to run at people, but the R&D midfield did a job on him and he had to cover for El-Abd so much he couldn't influence the game going forward.
Crofts- 6/10 Got stuck in as usual, typical gutsy performance, but his passing was a bit loose. Put it down to the conditions.
Navarro- 3/10 Didn't even realise he was playing til he went off.
McLeod- 2/10 Utter tank, was clearly pining for the nearest bakery. Clumsy, ponderous, for some reason obsessed with pinging the ball back at the defence like a tracer bullet when put under the slightest pressure. January can't come soon enough.
Forster- 5/10 Wasn't his usual self, well-taken penalty but otherwise he was pretty anonymous. Lack of service didn't help though.
Dickinson- 6/10 Found some good positions, scored two, won a lot of flick-ons. Admittedly they had no direction but whatsoever, but how much could he do with 80-yard howitzer shells from the defence. Looked a bit lazy chasing the long balls down but I would've lost the will to live long before he did, with that supply.
Hart- 4/10 Put himself about, didn't really get on the ball. Shame only half a dozen people clapped him for his 400th appearance.
Dicker- 8/10 Looked absolutely class when he came on. First touch was immense, gave it to feet rather than throat, changed the momentum of the whole game. Should be the first name on the teamsheet every week IMO.
Poyet- 6/10 Took a long time to get Dicker on but when he did he made a difference. Outwitted by Edinburgh though when he switched the full backs, only for the wingers to follow them.
Ref- 6/10 Gave a soft pen for us and was a bit of a jobsworth in the 1st half, should've carded Hoyte for his amateur dramatics in the 2nd half. Seen worse though.
R&D- 6/10 We were very, very lucky they're two divisions below us. Could've been an absolute massacre with defending like that, if they had anything better than a pub team strikeforce.
I took two old uni mates who were down for the weekend (Spurs fans) and they both commented on the level of aggression towards our own players. Was a shit performance but a few of them did deserve better. I was impressed by the away support, they sang all night, although it did look like something kicked off in their end with the stewards and coppers milling about, would like to know what happened there, but hats off to them for staying positive.
Hoyte- 2/10 R&D winger was all over him like a fat kid on a cupcake. Looked class early in his spell but very, very pony on basis of that display.
Elphick- 5/10 Positionally ok, but humped everything 70 yards plus.
Virgo- 4/10 Might as well have set up a catapult at centre back to pump it over the top. Think Gus might have made his mind up about him.
El-Abd- 3/10 Would look out of his depth in a puddle. Tried hard, but even when he switched to the right he was still awful. Very kind of him to escort their winger 60 yards for the 2nd goal.
Bennett- 6/10 Showed flashes of his class when he got the chance to run at people, but the R&D midfield did a job on him and he had to cover for El-Abd so much he couldn't influence the game going forward.
Crofts- 6/10 Got stuck in as usual, typical gutsy performance, but his passing was a bit loose. Put it down to the conditions.
Navarro- 3/10 Didn't even realise he was playing til he went off.
McLeod- 2/10 Utter tank, was clearly pining for the nearest bakery. Clumsy, ponderous, for some reason obsessed with pinging the ball back at the defence like a tracer bullet when put under the slightest pressure. January can't come soon enough.
Forster- 5/10 Wasn't his usual self, well-taken penalty but otherwise he was pretty anonymous. Lack of service didn't help though.
Dickinson- 6/10 Found some good positions, scored two, won a lot of flick-ons. Admittedly they had no direction but whatsoever, but how much could he do with 80-yard howitzer shells from the defence. Looked a bit lazy chasing the long balls down but I would've lost the will to live long before he did, with that supply.
Hart- 4/10 Put himself about, didn't really get on the ball. Shame only half a dozen people clapped him for his 400th appearance.
Dicker- 8/10 Looked absolutely class when he came on. First touch was immense, gave it to feet rather than throat, changed the momentum of the whole game. Should be the first name on the teamsheet every week IMO.
Poyet- 6/10 Took a long time to get Dicker on but when he did he made a difference. Outwitted by Edinburgh though when he switched the full backs, only for the wingers to follow them.
Ref- 6/10 Gave a soft pen for us and was a bit of a jobsworth in the 1st half, should've carded Hoyte for his amateur dramatics in the 2nd half. Seen worse though.
R&D- 6/10 We were very, very lucky they're two divisions below us. Could've been an absolute massacre with defending like that, if they had anything better than a pub team strikeforce.
I took two old uni mates who were down for the weekend (Spurs fans) and they both commented on the level of aggression towards our own players. Was a shit performance but a few of them did deserve better. I was impressed by the away support, they sang all night, although it did look like something kicked off in their end with the stewards and coppers milling about, would like to know what happened there, but hats off to them for staying positive.
Dave the OAP
Well-known member
maybe its me, but I don't think Smith is as bad as people seem to think. I thought he did fine on Saturday, his distribution was fine, set us on a couple of decent attacks from throw ins.
Pesonally I thought he had bugger all chance with both goals which were taken extremely well.
having said all that, Petr Chec would look struggle in front of our pathetic defence
maybe its about time some people had a reality check as we are 5th from bottom of the 3rd division and struggled to beat a Blue Square team.......we are hardly going to get a Gordon Banks to come down here are we.
Pesonally I thought he had bugger all chance with both goals which were taken extremely well.
having said all that, Petr Chec would look struggle in front of our pathetic defence
maybe its about time some people had a reality check as we are 5th from bottom of the 3rd division and struggled to beat a Blue Square team.......we are hardly going to get a Gordon Banks to come down here are we.
Monsieur Le Plonk
Lethargy in motion
I also think Smith did fine on Saturday apart from two occasions. Problem is, on another day those two occasions would have cost us 3 points.
His partner in the crime that led to the two R & D goals, Hoyte, was the one that really disappointed me. He had such a horrific game that it was comical. Invited down a devoted Gooner who also couldn't believe what had happened to his defending since he had left his old club. The way he was twisted and turned inside out by their left winger was embarrassing and just has to be a complete one-off. Poyet has got to persevere with Hoyte and get him linking up with Bennett again which was when we have consistently looked most threatening this season IMO.
Comedy moment for me was that number 7 from R & D (Aaron O'Connor?) who celebrated his goal by careering up and down the touchline in front of the North Stand, and baiting the noisy hooligans and young turks in front of him(!) by chest pumping and heralding the name on the back of his shirt.
As an aside, do our ballboys and ballgirls get any training at all on how to retrieve and throw a football? And while I'm on this, who nicked all the footballs in the second half, or were they all in the car park and up in the trees where Elphick and Virgs deposited them?
His partner in the crime that led to the two R & D goals, Hoyte, was the one that really disappointed me. He had such a horrific game that it was comical. Invited down a devoted Gooner who also couldn't believe what had happened to his defending since he had left his old club. The way he was twisted and turned inside out by their left winger was embarrassing and just has to be a complete one-off. Poyet has got to persevere with Hoyte and get him linking up with Bennett again which was when we have consistently looked most threatening this season IMO.
Comedy moment for me was that number 7 from R & D (Aaron O'Connor?) who celebrated his goal by careering up and down the touchline in front of the North Stand, and baiting the noisy hooligans and young turks in front of him(!) by chest pumping and heralding the name on the back of his shirt.
As an aside, do our ballboys and ballgirls get any training at all on how to retrieve and throw a football? And while I'm on this, who nicked all the footballs in the second half, or were they all in the car park and up in the trees where Elphick and Virgs deposited them?
Not sure where you were sitting but from Block E it seemed that the first went right underneath him. I tried to check on the TV highlights but the cameraman seemed to be caught out with the speed of the shot and all I saw was the ball going past him. The second wasn't much better.
Second half he was better protected and seemed to grow in confidence. He made some good catches and some great attacking throws that really sparked us - but my mind still goes back to those two goals.
Chesney Christ
New member
Whereas Dickinson diving 13 or 14 times in every match is okay is it?
Chesney Christ
New member
The vast majority of people on here are giving Dickinson high marks you cretin, so surely you are the sheep if anything.
Two goals against a Blue Square Premier team - I'll try and contain my excitement.....
Here are the marks/brief comments on dickinson.
7
7
ee ore
"utter shite"
"I'd give them all three"
6
7
4
2
2
7
4
7
"mom"
0
"Good job"
2
7
7
6
That's 20 ratings.
Of those 20: 10 are 6 or above (or a positive comment)
Of those 20: 10 are 4 or below (or a negative comment)
There isn't even a majority giving Dickinson high marks, let alone a "vast majority".
It's evenly split.
Chesney Christ
New member
Blimey, he really does divide opinion doesn't he? Thats incredible.
Perhaps it comes down to what sort of football people enjoy watching. I know it has its place at times, but I just can't get excited about the whole "launch it up to the huge lumbering target man" type of football. Different strokes and all that....
generally i agree but the way he just kicks it out when stuck under pressure is a real frustration, needs confidence but he is never going to get that with our own fans shouting your shit at him
SittingbourneSeagull
Well-known member
Not knocking Dickinson, but the first was from about 18 yards, but into an empty net, the second was from about 7 yards and went under the goalkeeper, hardly top corner.
SittingbourneSeagull
Well-known member
Based on the above I have to conclude that you know nothing about football. Dicker changed the way we were playing when he came on, everything went through him and we actually started to have some control over the way we played.
Can't believe that you are slagging Forster, he has been our most consistant player for the last few seasons, and without him we would be in a lot more trouble then we already are.
Dickinson played okay but 7 for 2 well taken goals. If Forster had scored 2 would he have got 7 as well?
Silent Bob
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- Dec 6, 2004
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Thing is Dickinson's not a target man, he's lightweight and he wins very little in the air. It's difficult to see what it is he's supposed to be, for me the (very few) moments where he looks have been when he's dropped off a bit, actually managed to control the ball and played some decent long passes. Saying that he's done it maybe two or three times that I've seen so it's not exactly a regular thing.
A few people have come out with the "you have to be in the positions to score" chesnut, I'm not sure that really applies at this level of football. Of course, you do have to get in positions to score - but doing so doesn't neccesarily mean you're that good a player, it just means you're not Chris McPhee or Joe Gatting. I hardly see Dickinson as a "fox in the box" type striker either. Maybe his proponents do, I don't know.