Piers Morgan leaves GMB.

[sydney]

The student loan isn't the major expense - and if you get a poorly paid job afterwards you don't repay it anyway.
It's the 3/4 years of lost income that costs money.

You've reminded me though, that I should thank all the people who took on £10 000 or £30 000 of "debt" to study degrees with about 10hours of contact time a week for subsidising my civil engineering course.

oh well done , best get some stamps and get scribbling ..... it's different here.

 

[rippleman]

Well, she did actually say that they got married privately three days before the main wedding, which was incorrect. They took vows. The reply from the Palace referred to a variance in recollection, which is a clear indication of a difference of opinion. So, for the time being, we don't know whether we are dealing with truths, half truths or lies. We really know nothing at all. Its just a case of people favouring one side or the other, without knowing too many facts. Its likely, the real facts will never come out, which could suit one party or the other or even both parties.

Spot on.

We have accusations with no supporting evidence whatsoever. She has been caught out over her "inaccuracy" insisting they wed privately before the big shindig - when they didn't.

How many other "inaccuracies" in her shopping list of grievances?

 

[Weststander]

The introduction and subsequent rise in tuition fees turned the whole of the university system in to a money making machine, I pity anyone these days who go to uni now, its all about screwing them and their parents for ridiculous fees and accommodation costs. We really should be concentrating on apprenticeships and practical skills, we can't all be captains of industry and rocket scientists.

Hi [MENTION=11928]vegster[/MENTION], I couldn't agree more. The German apprenticeship system is the success story of european education, no surprise then that they have world leading industries way beyond manufacturing, also the professions and most vocations. 53% of young adults take an apprenticeship rather than an academic degree 29%.

Their young adult unemployment is one third of that if the rest of the EU.

 

[Stato]

Piers Morgan is tweeting about free speech, but walked out of the studio because someone else was expressing his right to it. He has no credibility.

He may see himself as championing the monarchy, but fails to understand that it is the royal factor in this argument that has probably done for him. Had his unpleasantness been about one of us commoners, ITV would more than likely have protected him like they have done every time he's done it in the past. He might view Meghan as an arriviste, but a royal is still a royal and the rules of public discourse and consequences for causing upset are made different by the hugely multiplied attention paid to anything surrounding them.

I like Danny Baker and don't like Piers Morgan, but they've both gone for the same reason. They said/posted stupid, insensitive things, got themselves embroiled in controversy concerning the royal family and, when instructed to eat crow by employers in permanent fear of this kind of fuss, wouldn't do it. Had the stupid things they said just been considered insulting or upsetting about regular folks, they would, rightly or wrongly depending on your point of view, probably both have carried on their jobs. Add in royalty and consequences get amplified.

It's not about free speech. Its about public opinion and the fear that mainstream organisations have of the potential consequences should they end up on the wrong side of it.

 

[Weststander]

Piers Morgan is tweeting about free speech, but walked out of the studio because someone else was expressing his right to it. He has no credibility.

He may see himself as championing the monarchy, but fails to understand that it is the royal factor in this argument that has probably done for him. Had his unpleasantness been about one of us commoners, ITV would more than likely have protected him like they have done every time he's done it in the past. He might view Meghan as an arriviste, but a royal is still a royal and the rules of public discourse and consequences for causing upset are made different by the hugely multiplied attention paid to anything surrounding them.

I like Danny Baker and don't like Piers Morgan, but they've both gone for the same reason. They said/posted stupid, insensitive things, got themselves embroiled in controversy concerning the royal family and, when instructed to eat crow by employers in permanent fear of this kind of fuss, wouldn't do it. Had the stupid things they said just been considered insulting or upsetting about regular folks, they would, rightly or wrongly depending on your point of view, probably both have carried on their jobs. Add in royalty and consequences get amplified.

It's not about free speech. Its about public opinion and the fear that mainstream organisations have of the potential consequences should they end up on the wrong side of it.

The Alex Beresford clip is remarkable.

He bravely took on the bully with directness, but without the rudeness and decibels of Morgan.

Morgan was completely out of his comfort zone and did a infantile walkout. His world collapsing.

Anyone other than Beresford and he would have shouted them down. Because it was a colleague and (imho because it was) a black colleague who comes across as a nice guy, Morgan was stuffed.

 

[beorhthelm]

I like Danny Baker and don't like Piers Morgan, but they've both gone for the same reason. They said/posted stupid, insensitive things, got themselves embroiled in controversy concerning the royal family and, when instructed to eat crow by employers in permanent fear of this kind of fuss, wouldn't do it. Had the stupid things they said just been considered insulting or upsetting about regular folks, they would, rightly or wrongly depending on your point of view, probably both have carried on their jobs. Add in royalty and consequences get amplified.

It's not about free speech. Its about public opinion and the fear that mainstream organisations have of the potential consequences should they end up on the wrong side of it.

its also about the platform reach. say something in a late night magazine and few would take notice, royals or other subject. say it in primetime, very loudly for a couple of days and people get irritated, the broadcaster nervous.

either way he still has his free speech. he's still able to make his views heard on several other mediums. no one is calling for his arrest.

 

[Randy McNob]

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They really do walk among us[emoji1787]

This was a perfectly reasonable thread declaring how much of a **** piers Morgan is.. then simple got involved and it all got a bit spiteful..The tolerant left eh[emoji2371]

not everything is left or right, I think you need de-radicalising

 

[Baker lite]

not everything is left or right, I think you need de-radicalising

Oh dear [emoji2359]

 

[Randy McNob]

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[vegster]

Hi [MENTION=11928]vegster[/MENTION], I couldn't agree more. The German apprenticeship system is the success story of european education, no surprise then that they have world leading industries way beyond manufacturing, also the professions and most vocations. 53% of young adults take an apprenticeship rather than an academic degree 29%.

Their young adult unemployment is one third of that if the rest of the EU.

And to think we thought we won the war ?

 

[Stato]

its also about the platform reach. say something in a late night magazine and few would take notice, royals or other subject. say it in primetime, very loudly for a couple of days and people get irritated, the broadcaster nervous.

either way he still has his free speech. he's still able to make his views heard on several other mediums. no one is calling for his arrest.

True. I remember, on a show looking back at 'This Morning With Richard Not Judy', Richard Herring saying to Stuart Lee that the BBC let them get away with saying a lot of inappropriate things on a Sunday morning and Lee responding that this was because nobody from the network was aware of the programme and nobody from the public was watching it.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

Sounds like you need to grow a pair of bollocks.

As far as I can see, the younger generation have every right to be upset with boomers. You benefitted from cheap housing, bullet proof pensions, free higher education and EU membership, and now not only do they have none of those things but boomers in general have actively voted to ensure that was the case. Meanwhile, boomers don't feel obliged to make the case for why what they've voted for is the right thing.

Please... don't let yourself down with comments like that. Its uncalled for. I don't need to grow a pair of bollocks, as you politely put it. Every generation has had its issues, mine included but you seem to have decided that we had it particularly good and now the current crop have it particularly bad. What about the generation in between ( which may be your generation, I don't know ) Did they have it good as well or are they absolved of all blame? I have been self employed for a very long time, so no bullet proof pension for me. I couldn't get on the housing ladder for a long time as mortgages were a maximum 2.5 x income. My income was £14 per week, when I started work. There was no credit in society. If you didn't have the money, you didn't buy it. There was no technological age to help us with our studies or with work. There was huge industrial strife. Men and women were laid off for months, with little or no income. Electricity supplies were rationed and bodies piled up in the streets. Yeah, great times.
I accept that you are prejudiced because of Brexit but to condemn a whole generation, many of whom have helped to contribute and build this country up to where it is today, is foolhardy.

 

[drew]

Please... don't let yourself down with comments like that. Its uncalled for. I don't need to grow a pair of bollocks, as you politely put it. Every generation has had its issues, mine included but you seem to have decided that we had it particularly good and now the current crop have it particularly bad. What about the generation in between ( which may be your generation, I don't know ) Did they have it good as well or are they absolved of all blame? I have been self employed for a very long time, so no bullet proof pension for me. I couldn't get on the housing ladder for a long time as mortgages were a maximum 2.5 x income. My income was £14 per week, when I started work. There was no credit in society. If you didn't have the money, you didn't buy it. There was no technological age to help us with our studies or with work. There was huge industrial strife. Men and women were laid off for months, with little or no income. Electricity supplies were rationed and bodies piled up in the streets. Yeah, great times.
I accept that you are prejudiced because of Brexit but to condemn a whole generation, many of whom have helped to contribute and build this country up to where it is today, is foolhardy.

I was born at the back end of the baby boomer generation and tend to agree with Simster. Your personal circumstances are just that and whilst they may be what you base your comments on, I don't agree that they reflect society. The generation before ours had to live with two world wars. The generation after ours probably had it a little harder but the current generation probably have it worse. Average house prices in Sussex are £396k where as the average salary is £28k. House price is over 10 x the average salary. Where the modern generation do benefit is very low interest rates but of course that's meaningless if you can't get the deposit together!!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/pjfxZM72Gj/house-buyer-time-machine

 

[Guinness Boy]

Piers Morgan has considerably more free speech that your average royal is allowed.

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

The Alex Beresford clip is remarkable.

He bravely took on the bully with directness, but without the rudeness and decibels of Morgan.

Morgan was completely out of his comfort zone and did a infantile walkout. His world collapsing.

Anyone other than Beresford and he would have shouted them down. Because it was a colleague and (imho because it was) a black colleague who comes across as a nice guy, Morgan was stuffed.

This. I've been (reluctantly) Team Morgan all the time he's been battering the Tories, and in fairness, Trump on whom he changed his position for the better. But underneath he's a weapons-grade egomaniac. It was only a matter of time before he stepped over the line marked 'acceptable'. His flounce out of the studio was the final nail: I remember him giving a Minister a VERY hard time when she (politely) cut short an interview.

I also got increasingly annoyed by his 'Woke' trope, which is little more than lazy name-calling. He'll doubtless crop up again somewhere.

 

[Guinness Boy]

I also got increasingly annoyed by his 'Woke' trope, which is little more than lazy name-calling. He'll doubtless crop up again somewhere.

I tend to find anyone using this is a one dimensional bore.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Spot on.

We have accusations with no supporting evidence whatsoever. She has been caught out over her "inaccuracy" insisting they wed privately before the big shindig - when they didn't.

How many other "inaccuracies" in her shopping list of grievances?

The truth lies somewhere in between.

https://www.hellomagazine.com/bride...nce-harry-legal-wedding-date-oprah-interview/

 

[rogersix]

He's had it in for her ever since she ghosted him, after they "had some drinks"

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Ghosted?

 

[Baker lite]

Ghosted?

Like tea bagging but with spirits..
Apparently.


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[rogersix]

first, he abused his prominent platform to berate someone without any reply, sounding off his opinion in a supposed news programme. second, he's left rather than face the music of an Ofcom investigation, having been put in his place a few hours before by the weatherman.

what did the weatherman say?