CrabtreeBHA said:no what you said was its the now thing...
Juan Albion said:
However, you are right in that I am taking the pierce. Well spotted. Seemed a good way to start the day. Hook, line and sinker, some of them...
ChapmansThe Saviour said:Juan - are you then saying it is trendy?
Juan Albion said:Your Passion questions were so stupid as to not to be worth answering as you clearly had no idea what you were talking about.
You, I notice, have no answer to the points I just made and so have chosen to change the subject.
CrabtreeBHA said:your only saying that because you lost the argument, trying to hide your faults by displaying a jokingly fleeting response that it was all in jest, when in reality you lost the battle and feel hurt inside.
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Easy 10 said:Clearly the only way to settle this is whole debate is with a POLL.
And some PICTURES
Juan Albion said:Balk.
And I've never lost an argument yet.
Phaedrus said:Asking whether the Catholic Church consider the Gospel Of St.Thomas as heresy (as I had heard mentioned in a BBC programme) is a stupid question?
Juan Albion said:But I have read and do own the Gospel of Thomas, as well as many other non-canonical gospels, most of which you've probably never heard of. I don't remember seeing anything in any of them about bodypiercing.
CrabtreeBHA said:yes you did look
Juan Albion said:Are you saying it isn't the in thing now? That statement I made makes no comment or reference as to when it became an in thing, simply that it currently is. By saying I called it a 'now thing' is to twist the words by implying a sense of timeline. Very Dr Goebbels.
Juan Albion said:Asking me would be a stupid question, yes. I'm a protestant and I'd never be so presumptive as to speak for a whole church, especially one I'm not a member of. But I have read and do own the Gospel of Thomas, as well as many other non-canonical gospels, most of which you've probably never heard of. I don't remember seeing anything in any of them about bodypiercing.
Phaedrus said:I asked you as you seemed from your other answers/statements on the subject to be a bit of an authority on the subject and knew what you were talking about, a fact I now realise was a misjudgement. I never claimed to know the answers which is why I asked the questions. And you're right, I probably wouldn't have heard of any of the other gospels but what has that got to do with anything, other than you displaying your arrogance?
Juan Albion said:It's not arrogance, it just happens that I'm taking a Masters in Theology. But trying to follow the arguments of someone who has picked up some kind tidbit of an idea from the Sun is difficult. To be honest, I cannot even remember why you thought Thomas' gospel had any relevance to what we were taling about.
*snip*
Oh, yeah, I've just looked back. You said "I heard that The Gospel Of St.Thomas from the Dead Sea Scrolls was written in Aramaic and is described as being the 'closest thing to the spoken word of the historical Jesus'. "
You are just so wrong it is a joke, which I did tell you at the time:
"Well that's very interesting. I've read the Gospel of Thomas - it certainly isn't ignored by most theologians. However, your comments are a little odd - how could Jesus be condemning the church that didn't exist yet? ? ? If he was commenting on the current religious practices that he saw around him, which it sounds like, that would hardly be a first...
Oh, and BTW, the Gospel of Thomas was NOT part of the Dead Sea Scrolls!
And there is no Aramaic manuscript of Thomas. The earliest fragments are in Greek, the first full copy is in Coptic (which is a kind of Egyptian written in the Greek alphabet).
Come to think of it, I'm not sure you actually had anything right."