[Football] PELE

[marlowe]

In some sports it is worthy of discussion but in other sports there is little doubt who is the greatest.

Football - Pele
Golf - Tiger
Darts - Phil Taylor

Wrestling - Mick McManus

 

[Questions]

Definitely agree the greatest of all time in one of the best teams of all time.

Definitely the best team in my lifetime. 1970.

 

[shingle]

Definitely the best team in my lifetime. 1970.

Absolutely. Pele, Jairzinho, Tostao, Rivellino, Carlos Alberto. We'll never see the likes of again.

 

[shingle]

Says a lot about the England squad in 1970 WC that they narrowly beat us. All I can remember being a 10 year old at the time was "that tackle by Moore", the save by Banks and Fcucking Jeff Astle missing a sitter.

 

[shingle]

Wrestling - Mick McManus

Bollox. Shirley Crabtree aka Big Daddy.

 

[Questions]

Says a lot about the England squad in 1970 WC that they narrowly beat us. All I can remember being a 10 year old at the time was "that tackle by Moore", the save by Banks and Fcucking Jeff Astle missing a sitter.

Was probably as good as the 66 team but Bobby Charlton and Hurst were pretty much done.

I hate to speak ill of the dead but Astle’s chance........oh dear.

 

[Weststander]

Absolutely. Pele, Jairzinho, Tostao, Rivellino, Carlos Alberto. We'll never see the likes of again.

I was too young but have watched highlights of their attacking brilliance. Destroying a confident, savvy and star studded Italian team built on a mean defence was incredible.

For me too, the following were also football geniuses within the one team - Cruyff, Krol, Neeskens, Rensenbrink, Rep, van Hanegem, R. van der Kerkhof and Haan.

 

[Barham's tash]

Three World Cup victories, the first at the age of 17.

The only player that comes close is Maradona for me.

The modern era doesn’t lend itself to such greats on a world stage where arguably club football eclipses internationals these days so the big boys barely turn up.

Ronaldo, as much as I dislike him, has done much more than Messi on an international stage but if you could get them all in their prime at the same time on a pitch then I’d pay to see Pele, Maradona and Messi but Ronaldo I can totally take or leave him.

 

[crodonilson]

Get well soon Pele, the greatest who has ever loved.

 

[crodonilson]

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/63812974

 

[Questions]

'Messi is clearly greater' - Really?

It's all about opinions but how many headed goals does Messi score?

How many world cups has Messi won?

Different era - different ball, pitches, referees, opposition etc. but IMO to say Messi is clearly greater' is wrong -it's really impossible to compare.

Pele was kicked out of the 66 World Cup it’s often recorded…… Messi gets a lot more protection than Pele or even Maradona got, My point………. no idea

 

[Randy McNob]

it would be so Pele to pop his cloggs during a world cup

 

[bluenitsuj]

I know he is very poorly and all but this lazy sentimentalist dogma of ‘the greatest ever’ needs to be scrutinised.

Messi is clearly greater, you might want to add Maradonna and C.Ronaldo to that list as well.

Hope he feels much better very soon, he is undoubtedly a legend and one of the greatest ever.

Pele is the greatest player of all time in my opinion. Messi is not greater by any means and Maradona was a cheat.

 

[Deleted member 37369]

Pele is the greatest player of all time in my opinion. Messi is not greater by any means and Maradona was a cheat.

Totally agree. The swagger Brazil had in that 4-1 win over Italy in the 1970 World Cup Final was a joy to behold.

One of my prized possessions ...

 

[Dick Swiveller]

Totally agree. The swagger Brazil had in that 4-1 win over Italy in the 1970 World Cup Final was a joy to behold.

One of my prized possessions ...

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You appear to have bought a shirt of someone called Peli. Is he the PES version of Pele?

 

[Deleted member 37369]

You appear to have bought a shirt of someone called Peli. Is he the PES version of Pele?

Errr ... that's how he signs his name.

And I didn't buy it ... I won it in a competition almost 19 years ago

 

[Dick Swiveller]

Errr ... that's how he signs his name.

And I didn't buy it ... I won it in a competition almost 19 years ago

It's almost like I was joking

 

[Jeremiah]

Pele best footballer ever - IMO.

Have a look at some of the tackles that were allowed when he was playing - Messi & Ronaldo wouldn't know what hit them.

 

[Deleted member 37369]

It's almost like I was joking

I did wonder ... sometimes hard to tell these days ... especially with no or ....

 

[Icy Gull]

Sadly now in palliative care