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[Albion] Pascal Groß the raumdeuter - officially leaves for Dortmund :(



jackalbion

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If he goes it will be for under £20m, which is not what he’s worth, but it is what it is. Could not care less about the fee, if we don’t put some money about (and wages) to get in a ready made replacement, then we’ve made the mistake, and an entire summer haggling and then missing out like with Kudus will be monumentally bad. I would like a ready made replacement in sharpish if we make the decision to let him go.
 




Han Solo

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Sad to see Pascal go. Happy to see it seems to be Dortmund. 80k fans singing his name, he's not getting that anywhere else.

I'm guessing the succession calendar says Facundo Buonanotte, who will probably be a starter next season.
 




Uh_huh_him

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If he goes it will be for under £20m, which is not what he’s worth, but it is what it is. Could not care less about the fee, if we don’t put some money about (and wages) to get in a ready made replacement, then we’ve made the mistake, and an entire summer haggling and then missing out like with Kudus will be monumentally bad. I would like a ready made replacement in sharpish if we make the decision to let him go.
Yup.

There simply isn't a replacement for him
The money is kind of irrelevant.

HAving fully enjoyed the moment where Palace's momentum took a bit of a kicking, I find this news more than a little humbling.
 


Han Solo

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Buonanotte is not ready to be his replacement.
No one is ready to be his replacement. But someone will have to learn to be.

Buonanotte is the most similar player in style and has done the difficult first 18 months with decent results. Think he'll get his breakthrough now.

Another similar player will probably be added but we've got 40+ players expecting first team football next season, not everyone who leaves will be replaced by new players.
 




raymondo

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Wobbling his head would only result in him wanting to finish his career at a massive club in his home country.

Would much rather his head remained steady and at task at BHAFC.

Unlikely though. Imagine that it is for Gross at BHAFC. Can't brudge him a thing. Don't think we should look to be making any kind of big bucks, if he wants to go. He's an absolute legend and the only tragedy would be that the fans won't be able to give him a proper send off.
We'll have to applaud him when we meet in the Champions League in 2025 🙂
 


de la zouch

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He is irreplaceable, in that there isn’t another player like him. However many of our defeats last season we were rather one paced and fragile in midfield. So who knows his departure may lead to a quicker stronger midfield with a more dynamic transition
 


Hugo Rune

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Buonanotte is not ready to be his replacement.
Indeed. But probably better than Groß was at the same age.

If he can get these sorts of figures in the next few years, he’ll be able to step in to the shoes of the legend eventually.

Groß 14/15 - Insane assist stats


34 appearances. Only 4 games without a goal or assist.
 












The Fits

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We need to go big this summer. Our best players over the last two season have been sold or injured mostly and Gross going means we've lost three of the best midfielders in the league. At least two first team ready CMs needed. No fannying about, no thinking about potential and sell on. They must be experienced and exceptional.
If we don't do this we will seriously struggle.
 


Springal

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out in Cologne waiting for the game and most Germans don’t even know who he is !
 


Stato

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This source is pretty flakey isn’t it?

Ignore, just seen that he’s not the source
Although the source that this goes back to, Florian Plettenburg is posting a dozen or more transfer rumours every day. He's Sky's German equivalent of Kaveh Solhekol / Dharmesh Sheth. Some of what he reports will be genuine stories, but he'll often just be reporting what he's fed by agents and they'll have their own motivations. At the rate he's posting, I'd guess that, like Sky's other two, he's going to have more misses than hits.
 




WATFORD zero

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We have to do what Pascal wants, he has been absolutely magnificent for us and, if as seems likely he leaves, has to go with our very best wishes :bowdown:

We cannot go and buy a replacement to do what he can do around the pitch, in so many positions for any price so it's not an option to 'buy' a replacement. But WBG and Goodnight can cover certain aspects, and young Jack has been described as resembling a young Pascal in the way he plays. There may be others coming through who can help.

Don't panic, patience is a virtue :wink:
 


WhingForPresident

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Can't begrudge him that move at all in the now seemingly-likely scenario that it comes to fruition. Probably my favourite Albion player of all time. I doubt he ever thought he'd get the chance to go to Dortmund, play CL football and represent the national team at a home Euros, especially at 33. Incredible stuff.

He definitely needs something at the ground when he does leave, I suggest renaming 'Bruno's Restaurant' to 'Gross Cuisine'.

We are going to need a very busy transfer window. At least two top quality central midfielders that can make an instant impact, as well as addressing the gaping holes in defence.

Oh, and can we please stop voting our good players as Player of the Season? Four years in a row 😭.
 


jackalbion

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Aug 30, 2011
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We cannot go and buy a replacement to do what he can do around the pitch, in so many positions for any price so it's not an option to 'buy' a replacement. But WBG and Goodnight can cover certain aspects, and young Jack has been described as resembling a young Pascal in the way he plays. There may be others coming through who can help.
WBG and Buonanotte are not the answer to this problem. We can’t just sit around and replace from within, we need to recruit. We can kiss goodbye to any chance of Europa League if we don’t recruit at least a decent replacement. Sitting around going oh he’s too good to replacement is ridiculous.
 


Behind Enemy Lines

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Jul 18, 2003
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No one is ready to be his replacement. But someone will have to learn to be.

Buonanotte is the most similar player in style and has done the difficult first 18 months with decent results. Think he'll get his breakthrough now.

Another similar player will probably be added but we've got 40+uy players expecting first team football next season, not everyone who leaves will be replaced by new players.
No, we have to buy new players.
Over the last year the club has lost Caiedo, Mac Allister, (neither properly replaced), plus Lallana, and it looks now like Groß will go.
It has to be at least two new midfielders if Groß leaves.
 






WATFORD zero

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WBG and Buonanotte are not the answer to this problem. We can’t just sit around and replace from within, we need to recruit. We can kiss goodbye to any chance of Europa League if we don’t recruit at least a decent replacement. Sitting around going oh he’s too good to replacement is ridiculous.

Well who do you suggest to replace him (money no object) :shrug:
 


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