[Drinking] Parenting in pubs

[Pevenseagull]

Few years ago I was working in a pub and some mummy and daddy twats let their toddler loose to crawl around on the floor. I told them to pick them up because there was a (very real) chance that there could be some shards of broken glass between the floor boards. They told me that if their kid's hands got cut they would sue the pub.

Took their drinks from them, gave them their money back, told them to leave .... And then they got shitty with me.

 

[pastafarian]

I am not against family pubs with sport but this is the reason I do not go in them.
So, is it time to bring back the geezers pub?
Good selection of drinks.
Sport.
Strippers.
Roast potatoes on the bar.
Pickled eggs to pop in your bag of cheese and onion.
Topless barmaids.
Proper, covered/heated smoking area.
Ladies are allowed of course (if they don't mind looking at clunge)
NO KIDS (obviously)
Why can't a bloke have a man cave after a hard weeks graft.

Who the frack puts a pickled egg inside the packet of cheese and onion.......thats perverse.
Yes to strippers and topless barmaids.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Well I can't comment on that far back as I was only a kid myself (don't remember my childhood nor my mates' being traumatic in that sense!), but that sounds great in Canada - certainly seem to have been ahead of the game in terms of treatment of kids.

Personally having lived in the far East and south America I never once thought perhaps at home we're not a child loving society. The opposite in the far East; where I lived children from a young age are often pushed to within an inch of sanity (or to depression etc) in terms of pressure with education etc just to uphold family respect, and children with learning disabilities hidden away as almost bringing shame on the family, for example.

Far East and South America are deffo child loving cultures. It's the weird Victorian stuffy Brit wankers who are the other end of the spectrum. And the servants learnt from the masters, first with corporal punishment, then with neglect. Orwell had it about right with the proles. The middle classes have moved on. A bit.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

I remember a few years ago taking my kids to the local 'spoons for lunch.
After ordering a second pint after the meal I was told that I wouldn't be allowed any more as I was with children.

Seems like a very sensible policy.

 

[Chicken Run]

Course not…anyone in there would have kids that are in their 30s

Or more likely will be trying for their first child in their 40’s-50’s


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[BN41Albion]

Far East and South America are deffo child loving cultures. It's the weird Victorian stuffy Brit wankers who are the other end of the spectrum. And the servants learnt from the masters, first with corporal punishment, then with neglect. Orwell had it about right with the proles. The middle classes have moved on. A bit.

OK, but in reality I saw many examples of terrible parenting in South America, probably more than I'd see here on average, and the far east as I said treat their kids appallingly in many countries (in general) when it comes to putting awful pressure and stress of being successful financially on their kids from a young age, the way children with learning disabilities are treated, and the stigma young women are still subject to if they're not married with kids young - and the pressure many families put on daughters to marry. As three examples. As I said, this is in general, and it's certainly more of a case in some countries (south Korea and China especially) compared to others

So....

 

[dazzer6666]

Or more likely will be trying for their first child in their 40’s-50’s


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…or a virgin

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Worth pointing out that many pubs specifically market themselves as "family pubs" and have children's menu's and crayons and stuff. It depends on the venue and time of day as to whether this is ok

I take my kids drinking all the time. They are pretty well behaved to be fair though

 

[Dinner with Gotsmanov]

Has the boozer been identified? I don’t recall seeing it named and shamed. I need to put on my avoid at all costs list.

The Stoneham (nee Portland) on Portland Road Hove is a place to avoid IMHO, proseecoed up mummies letting their little preciouses run wild. Was a few years ago mind, so may have improved.

 

[keaton]

Kids shouldn’t be in pubs. Adults need a space away from children. Theirs or other people’s.

I think if you ban kids from pubs at least 75% would close down as the family lunch keeps many afloat. I'd rather have children running around playing than pissed twats acting like children

 

[GT49er]

Almost certainly Brexiteers.

More certainly don't vote.

 

[Fat Boy Fat]

Who the frack puts a pickled egg inside the packet of cheese and onion.......thats perverse.
Yes to strippers and topless barmaids.

I know, I read through the extensive list of requirements for a pub, weirdly, apart from shuddering at the use of the horrible phrase "clunge" the thing that really caught my eye was the pickled egg in Cheese and Onion crisps.

Surely has to be ready salted or at a push salt and vinegar - heathen!

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Not a fan of children in pubs or restaurants. Get of baby sitter or leave them at home. If the latter it might be an idea to close the windows and lock the door unless you want a Madeleine McCann situation though.

 

[Chicken Run]

Not a fan of children in pubs or restaurants. Get of baby sitter or leave them at home. If the latter it might be an idea to close the windows and lock the door unless you want a Madeleine McCann situation though.

Totally agree.


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[Live by the sea]

Sitting down with a meal YES

Around parents with drinks NO

Absolutely right - eating ok - drinking session absolutely not .

Lots of children in restaurants/ pubs that are there for an hour and are fine as long as they are engaged- pref talking not looking at a screen . Very chavy .

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

OK, but in reality I saw many examples of terrible parenting in South America, probably more than I'd see here on average, and the far east as I said treat their kids appallingly in many countries (in general) when it comes to putting awful pressure and stress of being successful financially on their kids from a young age, the way children with learning disabilities are treated, and the stigma young women are still subject to if they're not married with kids young - and the pressure many families put on daughters to marry. As three examples. As I said, this is in general, and it's certainly more of a case in some countries (south Korea and China especially) compared to others

So....

Crikey. You have responded as if I have been unpatriotically talking this great country down. I realise they maim kids for begging in India, etc. I'm talking about first world countries, and my point was parents even today do things here that wouldn't be tolerated elsewhere in the civilised world.

Edit: but far less so than when I was a kid. We are heading in the right direction, which perhaps is why the OP was outraged by what is presumably for him an uncommon experience.

 

[m@goo]

I'm not one to be "judgy", but the conversation in the gents with a couple of blokes was "WTF are those two doing ?", so it was very much being noticed. I was tempted to mutter "great parenting" on my way out, but what would be the point ? I'd only have got a gobfull, maybe a headbutt.

I don't think I've ever seen a more selfish example of woeful parenting. I'm left feeling annoyed I didn't say or do anything...but I just can't see what it would have achieved.

You're right. It would have achieved nothing but grief for you. People that think it's ok to live like that won't have the capacity to think about what they've done and understand it's neglectful of the children. They just wouldn't get it.

 

[Shropshire Seagull]

Crikey. You have responded as if I have been unpatriotically talking this great country down. I realise they maim kid for begging in India, etc. I'm talking about first world countries, and my point was parents even today do things here that wouldn't be tolerated elsewhere in the civilised world.

However, you have reminded me of a story that illustrates how people can get snooty about the behaviour of others without apparently noticing their own shortcomings.

In a supermarket queue, in England a kid is playing up, pinching sweets etc. The mother does the usual bit of shouting, then smacks the kid. A German woman standing begind them tuts and says 'In Germany we don't smack our children'. The English mother turns and replies, 'In England we don't *** our ****"

might just be me but I'm gonna need some wordle-like help with all those "*" - I got "hit" & "kids" but that made no sense - I couldn't think of a 3-letter swear verb either.

 

[The Clamp]

While I don’t agree with the “seen and not heard” school of rearing children, they shouldn’t be in pubs, and I’d rather there were days when children are not allowed in restaurants that are clearly aimed at adults.

There is far too much child infringement into adult zones. Some people are raising a generation of entitled little so and so’s who cannot handle disappointment and who value safe spaces and ping pong tables at work rather than a decent wage.

I see the Tory’s are proposing to relax child labour laws. This should redress some of the balance.

 

[S'hampton Seagull]

Not a fan of children in pubs or restaurants. Get of baby sitter or leave them at home. If the latter it might be an idea to close the windows and lock the door unless you want a Madeleine McCann situation though.

How are kids supposed to learn how to behave in a restaurant unless they are allowed in one? You should go to a restaurant that is unlikely to have families in it or at a time when the kids won't be there.

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