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[Albion] Palace Fans Biggest Fear



dadams2k11

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Jun 24, 2011
5,023
Brighton
Course you can. The football was dire most of the time but other times our flair players stepped up and we played some good stuff. Just imagine what they can do now the shackles of Roy have been lifted, players like Zaha, Olise, Schulpp, Reidaweld and Eze should flourish.
You are just trolling and on a wind up now.

I bet, if you have a bad start, you and your like, will not be seen for dust around here.

Give it all the biggen, then slope off and won't face the music, or stick by your posts.

I feel there will be a lot of bouncing of this thread after 10 games and all the palace fans on this thread, will have issues logging in to their NSC accounts, coincidentally.
 




Uh_huh_him

Well-known member
Sep 28, 2011
12,113
Has Schlupp signed again? I guess he hasn't got many other decent options, he has missed a lot of games through injury over the last 2 seasons, as will Eze this season, difficult to flourish from the treatment table.


No, he's one or nine of the current 22 man squad whose contracts expire between now and next season.

Strange they haven't hooked him and the other 8 into signing a new contract, as surely they are a valuable part of this new squad that's being built?
 


Milo

Banned
Jul 9, 2021
191
You are just trolling and on a wind up now.

I bet, if you have a bad start, you and your like, will not be seen for dust around here.

Give it all the biggen, then slope off and won't face the music, or stick by your posts.

I feel there will be a lot of bouncing of this thread after 10 games and all the palace fans on this thread, will have issues logging in to their NSC accounts, coincidentally.

I'm not trolling in the slightest, i'm just giving my opinion. You all think we are this awful side yet we finished above you, won more games, and took 4 points of you last season. Its ridiculous. Why don't you just admit that some of our players would walk into your team? I'll admit players like Lampety. Bissoma and White would for us.
 


papajaff

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Aug 7, 2005
4,027
Brighton
You were also dire at times. Didn't you fail to beat any of the bottom 4 home or away?

You have regressed in to a boring troll now which is a shame. You are Dougie mkll.

By all means have debate but save the willy waving for the playground or stick to the BBS, whatever that actually means. Or are you banned from there?
 


bhanutz

Well-known member
Aug 23, 2005
5,999
I'm not trolling in the slightest, i'm just giving my opinion. You all think we are this awful side yet we finished above you, won more games, and took 4 points of you last season. Its ridiculous. Why don't you just admit that some of our players would walk into your team? I'll admit players like Lampety. Bissoma and White would for us.

Benteke, I would take Benteke... That is it...

We are miles ahead of you and you know it!
 




dadams2k11

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Jun 24, 2011
5,023
Brighton
I'm not trolling in the slightest, i'm just giving my opinion. You all think we are this awful side yet we finished above you, won more games, and took 4 points of you last season. Its ridiculous. Why don't you just admit that some of our players would walk into your team? I'll admit players like Lampety. Bissoma and White would for us.

You are going around in circles and if you take time to read was has been written, it has been said numerous times, that players from both teams will get into the other team.

So I take it you will come back and post on this thread after 10 games, no matter what the position of both teams are in the league?
 








Milo

Banned
Jul 9, 2021
191
You are going around in circles and if you take time to read was has been written, it has been said numerous times, that players from both teams will get into the other team.

So I take it you will come back and post on this thread after 10 games, no matter what the position of both teams are in the league?

100% I will
 


bhanutz

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Aug 23, 2005
5,999
14th >16th suggests not...

And the fact you didn't pick Zaha shows you're are deluded.

Not deluded at all. Zaha wants out mate, he wants to leave every year, he is your problem and you can't see it. Get rid of him and you will be a better team, mark my words.

We are MILES ahead of you! get used to it.
 


Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
5,467
Mid Sussex
Course you can. The football was dire most of the time but other times our flair players stepped up and we played some good stuff. Just imagine what they can do now the shackles of Roy have been lifted, players like Zaha, Olise, Schulpp, Reidaweld and Eze should flourish.

Of course you can’t. You’ve just contradicted yourself (again).
The football was dire most of the time as you stated in your post.

I can’t imagine as there is no real evidence of what Paddy can do. He had one successful season with an established squad followed by a crap season that ultimately got him sacked.

Klopp would have his work cut out trying to be successful with where your squad is at the moment.


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Milo

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Jul 9, 2021
191
Of course you can’t. You’ve just contradicted yourself (again).
The football was dire most of the time as you stated in your post.

I can’t imagine as there is no real evidence of what Paddy can do. He had one successful season with an established squad followed by a crap season that ultimately got him sacked.

Klopp would have his work cut out trying to be successful with where your squad is at the moment.


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Don't you lot say this every year and we always finish above you?
 


Uh_huh_him

Well-known member
Sep 28, 2011
12,113
I'm not tolling in the slighest, i'm just giving my opinion. You all think we are this awful side yet we finished above you, won more games, and took 4 points of you last season. Its ridiculous. Why don't you just admit that some of our players would walk into your team? I'll admit players like Lampety. Bissoma and White would for us.

And now the circle has completed.


Zaha is the one player that walks into our squad. That's it. His ability is beyond question.
But to be honest most of us wouldn't want him here as his temperament wouldn't fit in with the squad.

Of your young prospects, Eze/Olisie/Guehi Look to have a lot of potential.
Olisie particularly looks like a good signing, but we don't need him as things stand and isn't currently better than we've got. So he doesn't "walk" into our squad.

Trossard vs Eze is down to personal choice - Eze doesn't walk into our side - I'm happy with what we've got. (Trossard went to the Euros with Belgium and performs pretty well for us)
Guehi - Doesn't compete (yet) against Dunk/Webster/Veltman I'm not including White because he's as good as gone.

Bissouma/Dunk/Webster/Veltman/Lamptey walk into your squad as things stand at the moment.

March vs Schlupp - happy with what we have thanks.

Then there's MacAllister/Mwepu/Caceido/Moder/Karbownik/Sanchez Young players with a lot of potential - all have played at international level and highly rated. I don't see anything in your squad I'd rather have.

Of our older players, I would pick Welbeck/Andone/Maupay/Zeqiri over Ayew/Benteke/Mateta - but those I agree are personal choices and not worth debating.


So it's Zaha - Still just Zaha - after all these years and ,millions spent.
And he wants out.
 




Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
5,467
Mid Sussex
Don't you lot say this every year and we always finish above you?

You are in a much worse place than previous years.
We should have finished above you last season but we couldn’t score. We missed loads of chances … yet finished only three points behind you. We are catching up.


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Stato

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Dec 21, 2011
7,367
Benteke, I would take Benteke... That is it...

Would you!? In his best season for years, he got one more goal and one less assist than Maupay last year. In the previous three seasons combined, he managed a total of six goals! I wouldn't take him on Connolly's wages, let alone what Palace are paying him.

I haven't seen much of the two new signings from the Championship, but Zaha is the only one who walks into any team in the league. Eze is promising and would be challenging for a place with Trossard, McAllister, Gross, Lallana etc. Reidewald definitely behind Bissouma, would have been behind Propper, who we've just sold, perhaps behind some of the youngsters fighting to be Bis's replacement. Guaita would be on the bench behind Sanchez. Nobody else gets a place in the matchday squad.

The off season always allows fans the chance to create their own perceptions of how good their players are. Palace's big risk is that the reason for them finishing above us last year was not due to quality of players, it was due to a very pragmatic, well organised and experienced manager, who knew how to cut his cloth, maximise his resources and protect what he had.

My warning to Milo (Is that a Catch 22 reference or a Tweenies one?) would be that fans are always subject to confirmation bias in terms of their own players. Its easy to think that it is only the manager's stifling tactics that prevent the players from becoming a dynamic attacking force, without ever considering that he sees the players every day, he knows their strengths and weaknesses, he has analysed the opposition and he knows far more about football than you do. I was concerned when Chris Hughton left Brighton and Graham Potter was tasked with taking us in a different direction. I wasn't sure that the players could make the changes needed. That they have done over the last two seasons has been incredible, not just to me, but to the likes of Klopp and Guardiola, who have both expressed how difficult it is to play the football that Potter wants to play with a squad who's starting goal is survival. That's the challenge that faces Vieira. Potter has shown that it's not impossible, but instances of teams changing a pragmatic approach and still surviving are very rare. Its an admirable aim, but its a huge risk. In our experience, Palace fans will need to be patient. They will need to be forgiving. They will need to have realistic expectations about the pace of progress. This time around the throat cutting gestures may need to be put on hold for a while.
 


Milo

Banned
Jul 9, 2021
191
And now the circle has completed.


Zaha is the one player that walks into our squad. That's it. His ability is beyond question.
But to be honest most of us wouldn't want him here as his temperament wouldn't fit in with the squad.

Of your young prospects, Eze/Olisie/Guehi Look to have a lot of potential.
Olisie particularly looks like a good signing, but we don't need him as things stand and isn't currently better than we've got. So he doesn't "walk" into our squad.

Trossard vs Eze is down to personal choice - Eze doesn't walk into our side - I'm happy with what we've got. (Trossard went to the Euros with Belgium and performs pretty well for us)
Guehi - Doesn't compete (yet) against Dunk/Webster/Veltman I'm not including White because he's as good as gone.

Bissouma/Dunk/Webster/Veltman/Lamptey walk into your squad as things stand at the moment.

March vs Schlupp - happy with what we have thanks.

Then there's MacAllister/Mwepu/Caceido/Moder/Karbownik/Sanchez Young players with a lot of potential - all have played at international level and highly rated. I don't see anything in your squad I'd rather have.

Of our older players, I would pick Welbeck/Andone/Maupay/Zeqiri over Ayew/Benteke/Mateta - but those I agree are personal choices and not worth debating.


So it's Zaha - Still just Zaha - after all these years and ,millions spent.
And he wants out.

Eze is a millions times better than Trossard, ask any neutral and the majority will agree.

Give Guehi and Olise a few games and i think you will change your mind. Both outstanding signings.

It is laughable that only 1 player in our team gets into your X1 yet you think 5 get into ours despite us finishing 14th last season and you finishing 16th. Sorry but it's delusion, utter delusion
 


Uh_huh_him

Well-known member
Sep 28, 2011
12,113
Eze is a millions times better than Trossard, ask any neutral and the majority will agree.

Give Guehi and Olise a few games and i think you will change your mind. Both outstanding signings.

It is laughable that only 1 player in our team gets into your X1 yet you think 5 get into ours despite us finishing 14th last season and you finishing 16th. Sorry but it's delusion, utter delusion


I have backed up my arguments. These Neutrals that you speak of, are the delusions.
How many neutrals compare Trossard and Eze? None. Why would they?
I agree he's a decent player but so is Trossard. He made the Euro squad for the No1 ranked team in the world!
Stats say 5/5 vs 6/4 in goals and assists last season... Take your pick ... and we inevitably pick our own players.

Show me the players that my 5 are up against.

Dunk > Guehi
Webster> Kouyate
Veltman > Tompkins
Lamptey > Ward
Bissouma > Milivojevic
 
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Milo

Banned
Jul 9, 2021
191
I have backed up my arguments these Neutrals that you speak of are the delusions.
How many neutrals compare Trossard and Eze? None. Why would they?
I agree he's a decent player but so is Trossard. He made the Euro squad for the No1 ranked team in the world!
Stats say 5/5 vs 6/4 in goals and assists last season... Take your pick ... and we inevitably pick our own players.

Show me the players that my 5 are up against.

Dunk > Guehi
Webster> Kouyate
Veltman > Tompkins
Lamptey > Ward
Bissouma > Milivojevic

Guehi is better than Veltman for starters. Lampety is better going forward than Ward but Ward the better defender. The other 3 I would agree with.
 


Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
5,467
Mid Sussex
Guehi is better than Veltman for starters. Lampety is better gong forward than Ward but Ward the better defender. The other 3 I would agree with.

Would this be Veltman who went to the Euro’s and Guehi that has played a total of zero premier league games.

As for the trossard comment … that is just ill informed and plain wrong.

Lamptey every day over ward.


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