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Osama Bin Laden is dead



daveinprague

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So, if they attacked Canary Wharf and Americans were killed, it would be seen as an attack on the USA? That dont make sense to me im afraid.
 




Hunting 784561

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He was responsible for some nasty acts of terrorism on US targets overseas, but even the FBI admit Bin Laden had nothing whatsoever to do with 9/11. Americans hate faceless enemies - you can't fight someone if you don't know who they are - hence the need to 'blame' someone for 9/11. I'm sure the world's a little bit of a better place without Bin Laden, but it really doesn't change much at all.

The BBC say OBL was the brains and the mastermind behind 9/11.

They could be wrong of course, and some bloke on a football chat board is correct - who knows...
 


tezz79

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So, if they attacked Canary Wharf and Americans were killed, it would be seen as an attack on the USA? That dont make sense to me im afraid.
No it would be seen as an attack on civilians. Were we attacked in ww2 1st ? Should we have stayed out of that ?
 




fataddick

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He was Definetly involved in the 1st attack on the wtc wasn't he ?

The only things he was wanted for (on his FBI most wanted page) were attacks on two US embassies and a warship, all overseas. No attacks on US soil are mentioned, and when asked about this in recent years, the head of the FBI has always said there is absolutely nothing to link Bin Laden to 9/11. In fact, Bin Laden's first interview after 9/11, he explicity said that he had no involvement whatsoever. It was only later -when he realised the support for the attack amongst the most extreme Islamists - that he tried to link himself by association, praising 'the marytrs', etc.
 




Paxton Dazo

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Also, I don't think it's appropriate for all these americans to be chanting and celebrating his death. No matter how evil someone is, celebrating a death is just wrong.

:tosser: You c'nt.
 


jakarta

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He was responsible for some nasty acts of terrorism on US targets overseas, but even the FBI admit Bin Laden had nothing whatsoever to do with 9/11. Americans hate faceless enemies - you can't fight someone if you don't know who they are - hence the need to 'blame' someone for 9/11. I'm sure the world's a little bit of a better place without Bin Laden, but it really doesn't change much at all.

I think you have OBL confused with Saddam Hussein, who didn't have anything to do with 9/11 although he was not exactly a Flower Child in other ways. :wrong:
 


daveinprague

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No it would be seen as an attack on civilians. Were we attacked in ww2 1st ? Should we have stayed out of that ?

sorry, i dont see the connection at all...
I saw it as an attack on the US financial and military cornerstones...and the reason for the attack, as stated time and time again by bin laden, was US troops stationed in Saudi... so its American policy that was being attacked. We werent attacked.
 




tezz79

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sorry, i dont see the connection at all...
I saw it as an attack on the US financial and military cornerstones...and the reason for the attack, as stated time and time again by bin laden, was US troops stationed in Saudi... so its American policy that was being attacked. We werent attacked.
I don't see it as an attack on Britain but WAS an attack on civilians some of who were British... Also I havnt seen a post from any forum member saying he attacked us 1st but maybe I missed it
 


bhaexpress

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No it would be seen as an attack on civilians. Were we attacked in ww2 1st ? Should we have stayed out of that ?

Actually we and France declared war on Germany as they had invaded Poland who we had a defence treaty with. As far as the Japanese are concerned well yes they did attack us first. Hitler didn't actually want a war with us at all but his actions left our government few options. The chances are that had he won the war in Europe eventually he would have attacked us in any case.
 


fataddick

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The BBC are saying what people want to hear. Find me any mention of 9/11 here: FBI USAMA BIN LADEN

Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI: “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.”

Bin Laden's first interview post-9/11, to a Pakistani newspaper (Sept 28th 2001): "I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; to the people who want to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity."

Still, you believe what the BBC tells you and sleep happy in your beds, y'all x
 




daveinprague

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I don't see it as an attack on Britain but WAS an attack on civilians some of who were British... Also I havnt seen a post from any forum member saying he attacked us 1st but maybe I missed it

Not sure if ive seen it on this forum, although, it wouldnt surprise me. Yes, civilians were attacked. Civilians get attacked all the time, and whilst I think the world is better without this twat, I still dont see the 'they attacked us first" thing. It was an attack on the US on account of US policy.
 


bhaexpress

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Not sure if ive seen it on this forum, although, it wouldnt surprise me. Yes, civilians were attacked. Civilians get attacked all the time, and whilst I think the world is better without this twat, I still dont see the 'they attacked us first" thing.

Well who attacked who on July 7 ? I think that we can safely say on that occasion we were attacked first. However, on the other side of the coin a lot of people might say that some of our history gave them a reason, something that isn't entirely without some truth.
 


melias shoes

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Now then Pakistan. What was you doing giving a safe haven to the worlds most wanted terrorist?
 




The Spanish

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The BBC are saying what people want to hear. Find me any mention of 9/11 here: FBI USAMA BIN LADEN

Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI: “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.”

Bin Laden's first interview post-9/11, to a Pakistani newspaper (Sept 28th 2001): "I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; to the people who want to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity."

Still, you believe what the BBC tells you and sleep happy in your beds, y'all x

the world needs more people like yourself who can see through all the smoke and mirrors and get to the truth.
 


tezz79

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Not sure if ive seen it on this forum, although, it wouldnt surprise me. Yes, civilians were attacked. Civilians get attacked all the time, and whilst I think the world is better without this twat, I still dont see the 'they attacked us first" thing.
But nobody has said he did "attack Britain 1st" .... He attacked civilians from many nations therefore he arguably attacked the civilised world.... This is my opinion btw I suppose you can look at it from a number of angles but I won't be swayed into thinking we shouldn't have gone after him with the yanks
 


HAILSHAM SEAGULL

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Nov 9, 2009
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I didnt think they took the bins out on a Bank Holiday Monday:whistle:
 


Acker79

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The BBC are saying what people want to hear. Find me any mention of 9/11 here: FBI USAMA BIN LADEN

Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI: “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.”

Bin Laden's first interview post-9/11, to a Pakistani newspaper (Sept 28th 2001): "I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; to the people who want to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity."

Still, you believe what the BBC tells you and sleep happy in your beds, y'all x

Not having evidence isn't the same thing as believing he isn't involved. I would imagine they can only put on the wanted page what they can prove in court, for fear of jeopardising their case.

As for the other bit, Obama, after being accused of the 9/11 attacks, looking for somewhere to hide out tells the people who might be compelled to hand over a guilty man that he didn't do it. Sounds very Shaggy to me, still you believe what the leader of a terrorist organisation tells you, and sleep happy in your bed.
 




daveinprague

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Well who attacked who on July 7 ? I think that we can safely say on that occasion we were attacked first. However, on the other side of the coin a lot of people might say that some of our history gave them a reason, something that isn't entirely without some truth.

Yeah, their suicide videos talked of the UK involvement in Iraq as the reason... and we cant deny that was a bit of a shady war.
 




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