Official Running Thread

[Ninja Elephant]

I'm recovering unusually slowly from Worthing, I'm going to step out for a few miles this evening after work and I've been in the gym doing some light work in the last couple of days but I'm really feeling the pace - which can only be a good sign! But I need to run like that twice at the marathon. I'm contemplating running the Isle of Man marathon as I'll be on the island anyway, two weeks before BM. I wouldn't intend to run at full pace but the reality is that I'd probably get a bit excited.

 

[Curious Orange]

I'm recovering unusually slowly from Worthing,

It is probably just the accumulation of miles you're running at the moment. We're at a similar stage in our marathon training (I also ran 13 miles at the weekend) and I'm finding it hard work too... though I'm running less days and less miles than you are! The two cross training days are a bit of relief, though I'll admit that yesterday's swim was a chore - which is rare for me.

Take a break from running for a few days, your body will thank you.

 

[knocky1]

It is probably just the accumulation of miles you're running at the moment. We're at a similar stage in our marathon training (I also ran 13 miles at the weekend) and I'm finding it hard work too... though I'm running less days and less miles than you are! The two cross training days are a bit of relief, though I'll admit that yesterday's swim was a chore - which is rare for me.

Take a break from running for a few days, your body will thank you.

He's certainly pushing a number of parameters: distance, speed,hills,racing and getting out of bed in the mornings. Time for an easy recovery week.

Different for me as a vintage model coming back from a year out but I have had to work on recovery whilst building up mileage and climbing. Having forced easy week followed by hard week. Unfortunately that means 3 days stretching and walking after this Sundays 18 mile run. Then easy prom 8 miles tomorrow and a flat 15 mile Sunday (thinking of Brighton Marathon).

Next week I'm really looking forward to. Planned accumulative 5,000' climbing and a 20 mile long run on the Sunday. 3 weeks out from The Moyleman marathon. I'd say I was ready for it as long as Mt Caburn collapses before race day.

Back into enjoying the long runs and no time pressure for two upcoming marathons......

 

[big nuts]

I'm recovering unusually slowly from Worthing, I'm going to step out for a few miles this evening after work and I've been in the gym doing some light work in the last couple of days but I'm really feeling the pace - which can only be a good sign! But I need to run like that twice at the marathon. I'm contemplating running the Isle of Man marathon as I'll be on the island anyway, two weeks before BM. I wouldn't intend to run at full pace but the reality is that I'd probably get a bit excited.

You’re not the only one. Was moving like an old man Tuesday evening and have felt the effects all week up until now. Sports massage Friday as want to give Hove Prom a go Saturday to beat my SB and hopefully PB.

 

[knocky1]

You’re not the only one. Was moving like an old man Tuesday evening and have felt the effects all week up until now. Sports massage Friday as want to give Hove Prom a go Saturday to beat my SB and hopefully PB.

Your body still recovering from Sunday's exertions and a sports massage less than 24 hours before a race make Parkrun on Saturday high risk. We don't run to be sensible but I'd reccommend dropping 30 seconds off finish time and/or wait a week.

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

He's certainly pushing a number of parameters: distance, speed,hills,racing and getting out of bed in the mornings. Time for an easy recovery week.

Different for me as a vintage model coming back from a year out but I have had to work on recovery whilst building up mileage and climbing. Having forced easy week followed by hard week. Unfortunately that means 3 days stretching and walking after this Sundays 18 mile run. Then easy prom 8 miles tomorrow and a flat 15 mile Sunday (thinking of Brighton Marathon).

Next week I'm really looking forward to. Planned accumulative 5,000' climbing and a 20 mile long run on the Sunday. 3 weeks out from The Moyleman marathon. I'd say I was ready for it as long as Mt Caburn collapses before race day.

Back into enjoying the long runs and no time pressure for two upcoming marathons......

You seem to be in 'heavy duty' territory! Have you got a target time for the Moyleman? It's a tough course I believe? My venture into marathon territory last November was not a success either in terms of performance (4:50) or aftermath (hamstrings). It makes you respect the distance. Consequently, for now I'm back on only Parkruns as I try to escape various niggles. I'm hoping to be a pest and post new SBs for uploading (for which many thanks) - I'm stuck at the wrong side of 22.00 for now.

Pleased to hear that the training is going so well. I've got a feeling that after you've got the marathon out of the way, you are come hunting for that NSC AG title, so I'll need to sharpen up.

 

[St Leonards Seagull]

Dipping back into this thread after just reading it for a while.
Some great running, it’s great to see [MENTION=616]Guinness Boy[/MENTION] and [MENTION=15605]knocky1[/MENTION] back in the game. Worthing HM sounded great, what a race between [MENTION=18183]big nuts[/MENTION] and [MENTION=13055]Ninja Elephant[/MENTION]. [MENTION=4417]The Complete Badger[/MENTION] what a run.
My running hasn’t been nearly so impressive, I’m hoping to start to up my game in the next couple of weeks.



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[knocky1]

You seem to be in 'heavy duty' territory! Have you got a target time for the Moyleman? It's a tough course I believe? My venture into marathon territory last November was not a success either in terms of performance (4:50) or aftermath (hamstrings). It makes you respect the distance. Consequently, for now I'm back on only Parkruns as I try to escape various niggles. I'm hoping to be a pest and post new SBs for uploading (for which many thanks) - I'm stuck at the wrong side of 22.00 for now.

Pleased to hear that the training is going so well. I've got a feeling that after you've got the marathon out of the way, you are come hunting for that NSC AG title, so I'll need to sharpen up.

Enjoying it while I can but aware that the aptly named achilles may need rest at any time.
I'd entered the BM but thought after trekking up mountains in Nepal in December may as well try the Moyleman as part of the training. [MENTION=24635]Greg Bobkin[/MENTION] will be raring to go at the start line but I plan to go off very slow with the plan of negative splits, despite Mt Caburn, and a 4'50ish time. The BM I plan negative splits again, no heroics and a sub-4. Plan B for both is to give up at 20 and walk......
Then it's triathlon training, weakest link relay and the summer Phoenix 10k will be my first race effort. Sure we'll meet up at a Parkrun soon. Good luck.

 

[Artie Fufkin]

Hey guys, just thought I'd post this interesting article on the benefits of "slowing down to go faster". It's far from being a new concept but I'm a relatively recent convert to this "keep your easy days truly easy and your hard days hard" approach (been about 6 months) and it's really working for me, although I probably don't throw in enough speed/interval work which is the other main focus. The key takeaways for me is that slowing things down improves my running consistency (my weekly volume is improved), helps prevent burn-out (maintaining pace for longer) and injury risk (I'm not overloading stress). As an example, I ran a negative split Half a couple of weeks ago which I would never have been able to do a year ago. Anyway just thought I'd share.

https://www.trainingpeaks.com/blog/training-in-the-grey-zone-how-to-avoid-the-zone-3-plateau/

 

[Ninja Elephant]

Hey guys, just thought I'd post this interesting article on the benefits of "slowing down to go faster". It's far from being a new concept but I'm a relatively recent convert to this "keep your easy days truly easy and your hard days hard" approach (been about 6 months) and it's really working for me, although I probably don't throw in enough speed/interval work which is the other main focus. The key takeaways for me is that slowing things down improves my running consistency (my weekly volume is improved), helps prevent burn-out (maintaining pace for longer) and injury risk (I'm not overloading stress). As an example, I ran a negative split Half a couple of weeks ago which I would never have been able to do a year ago. Anyway just thought I'd share.

https://www.trainingpeaks.com/blog/training-in-the-grey-zone-how-to-avoid-the-zone-3-plateau/

Absolutely - I'm going to be an exponent of slower running today when I pop out for a brief recovery run! Before this current training cycle I've always done runs at different paces, but in this cycle I always aimed for 8-8:30 per mile at the least, even in the 10 milers and the classic sunday long runs as well. Running from Ovingdean up and over Woodingdean was difficult at that pace but it's that kind of hilly run which adds the strength you need when piling into the oncoming wind of Worthing.

 

[Artie Fufkin]

Absolutely - I'm going to be an exponent of slower running today when I pop out for a brief recovery run! Before this current training cycle I've always done runs at different paces, but in this cycle I always aimed for 8-8:30 per mile at the least, even in the 10 milers and the classic sunday long runs as well. Running from Ovingdean up and over Woodingdean was difficult at that pace but it's that kind of hilly run which adds the strength you need when piling into the oncoming wind of Worthing.

Nice! I used to find myself getting too reliant on sticking to my "average pace" zone but since the switch to dialling it down to super easy runs and some short speed/interval work I'm feeling the benefits in my running and recovery... I rarely run at goal pace for any great length of time now, although I find it useful to throw in some miles at marathon or HM paces now and again but only a small % of miles of the run, or towards the end of a run.

 

[Ninja Elephant]

Nice! I used to find myself getting too reliant on sticking to my "average pace" zone but since the switch to dialling it down to super easy runs and some short speed/interval work I'm feeling the benefits in my running and recovery... I rarely run at goal pace for any great length of time now, although I find it useful to throw in some miles at marathon or HM paces now and again but only a small % of miles of the run, or towards the end of a run.

What sort of times do you run when you're targeting a time? Do you want to contribute some PBs to the NSC League Table? We record 5k (season best and personal best), 10k, 10miles, HM and Marathon. I'm sure [MENTION=30744]Pembury[/MENTION] wants Ultra Marathon to be added as well!

 

[Badger]

Hey guys, just thought I'd post this interesting article on the benefits of "slowing down to go faster". It's far from being a new concept but I'm a relatively recent convert to this "keep your easy days truly easy and your hard days hard" approach (been about 6 months) and it's really working for me, although I probably don't throw in enough speed/interval work which is the other main focus. The key takeaways for me is that slowing things down improves my running consistency (my weekly volume is improved), helps prevent burn-out (maintaining pace for longer) and injury risk (I'm not overloading stress). As an example, I ran a negative split Half a couple of weeks ago which I would never have been able to do a year ago. Anyway just thought I'd share.

https://www.trainingpeaks.com/blog/training-in-the-grey-zone-how-to-avoid-the-zone-3-plateau/

Yes, it definitely helps to slow things down and build up the distance. I haven't been very good at it recently, and keep finding myself running too fast. I find it difficult not to keep pushing myself and upping the pace.

One thing which really helps is doing group runs. I've started going to a marathon clinic with my running group. They don't really do much coaching as such, but we do go out at a steady pace.

 

[Artie Fufkin]

What sort of times do you run when you're targeting a time? Do you want to contribute some PBs to the NSC League Table? We record 5k (season best and personal best), 10k, 10miles, HM and Marathon. I'm sure [MENTION=30744]Pembury[/MENTION] wants Ultra Marathon to be added as well!

I don't race a lot but I'm hoping to go sub 1:25 at London's Big Half in a couple of weeks which is my first target race this year. The NSC League Table sounds good! Here's my PBs.

5K – 18:40 (parkrun PB)
10K – 38:42
Half marathon – 1:24:18
Marathon – 3:12:23 (Brighton 2017). Just the 2 marathons so far. The other one was London in 2016 which I did in 3:18:01. I'm not sure yet if I’ll get a marathon in this year but would like to. Kudos to all the NSC Ultra runners!

 

[Artie Fufkin]

Yes, it definitely helps to slow things down and build up the distance. I haven't been very good at it recently, and keep finding myself running too fast. I find it difficult not to keep pushing myself and upping the pace.

One thing which really helps is doing group runs. I've started going to a marathon clinic with my running group. They don't really do much coaching as such, but we do go out at a steady pace.

Definitely with you on the group run tip to help keep in check with the easy paced runs.

 

[knocky1]

I don't race a lot but I'm hoping to go sub 1:25 at London's Big Half in a couple of weeks which is my first target race this year. The NSC League Table sounds good! Here's my PBs.

5K – 18:40 (parkrun PB)
10K – 38:42
Half marathon – 1:24:18
Marathon – 3:12:23 (Brighton 2017). Just the 2 marathons so far. The other one was London in 2016 which I did in 3:18:01. I'm not sure yet if I’ll get a marathon in this year but would like to. Kudos to all the NSC Ultra runners!

Not bad for someone past 40.....

 

[Artie Fufkin]

Not bad for someone past 40.....

Haha! Yep hit the magic 40 last year. Took up running late, around 5 or 6 years ago I think. Standard mid-30's "I've got to start doing some exercise" new life goal.... the Over 40's has it's benefits as I think I'm now in a different "Good For Age" race bracket.

 

[knocky1]

Twitter username is the giveaway [MENTION=11816]Artie Fufkin[/MENTION] . You're almost in the young whippersnapper class for NSC though. A respectable 72.8% at Cannons Park last August is your AG best a quick search tells me. Only season best times are added to the table so let us know when you do a 5k after all this marathon plodding.
Half marathon updates for [MENTION=4417]The Complete Badger[/MENTION] and [MENTION=474]Mr Blobby[/MENTION]

NAME	SB	5K PB	AG	10K	10M	HM	M
Big Nuts	18:45	18:39	71.73%	39:09	1:06:45	1:28:35	3:15:59
Ninja Elephant	19:00	18:23	65.21%%	39:00	1:07:57	1:36:07	3:29:12
Mr Banana	19:57	19:57	65.41%
Complete Badger	20:02	20:02	64.29%	43:32	1:17:11	1:31:01
Curious Orange	20:07	18:36	68.85%%	38:31		1:25:24
Penny's Harmonica	21:28	20:10	68:71%	43:03		1:33:56	3:27:19
Seaford by the Sea	21:33	21:44	64.81%	46:53	1:29:21
Knocky	21:42	17:45	72.66%	39:52		1:34:00	3:50:49
Simgull	21:51	20:21	68:04%	42:45	1:11:46	1:38:14	3:44:28
GNT	22:05	20:20	74.5%	40:31	1:19:12	1:31:18	4:19:55
Greg Bobkin	22:25	20:54	60.45%	42:	1:13:	1:39:	3:57:
Left Back	23.04	21:02	63.95%	45:47		1:43:27
Anchorman	23:32	21:34	67.00%
Soistes	23:35	21:53	69.19%	46:33		1:47:22
Bob!	24:06	22:41	65.42%	45.39	1:16:42	1:44:21	3:53:35
Mr Blobby	24:59	24:59	58.57%	49:31	1:23:34	1:51:01	4:28:36
Artie Fufkin		18:40	%	38:42		1:24:18	3:12:23
Capricorn		17:23	%	36:55		1:23:20	4:41:29
Pembury		18.58		39.08		1:33:02	3:19:
Bad Ash		19:40	%	43:27		1:35:00	3:43:03
JoePrecious		19:44	%	46:19	1:24:08	1:38:13	4:04:30
St Leonard's		19.44	%			1:34:35
Hooky		19:52	%
Dazzer		19.57	%			1:36	3:43:
Guinness Boy		22:04	%	46:50		1:46:03	4:00:06
m20gull		26:15	%	57:32		02:07:07	5:46:02
Badger				39:06		1:38:48	4:01:25
Jonny Rainbow				41:43

 

[Artie Fufkin]

Thanks very much!

 

[Ninja Elephant]

Twitter username is the giveaway [MENTION=11816]Artie Fufkin[/MENTION] . You're almost in the young whippersnapper class for NSC though. A respectable 72.8% at Cannons Park last August is your AG best a quick search tells me. Only season best times are added to the table so let us know when you do a 5k after all this marathon plodding.
Half marathon updates for [MENTION=4417]The Complete Badger[/MENTION] and [MENTION=474]Mr Blobby[/MENTION]

NAME	SB	5K PB	AG	10K	10M	HM	M
Big Nuts	18:45	18:39	71.73%	39:09	1:06:45	1:28:35	3:15:59
Ninja Elephant	18:57	18:23	65.21%%	39:00	1:07:57	1:27:43	3:29:12
Mr Banana	19:57	19:57	65.41%
Complete Badger	20:02	20:02	64.29%	43:32	1:17:11	1:31:01
Curious Orange	20:07	18:36	68.85%%	38:31		1:25:24
Penny's Harmonica	21:28	20:10	68:71%	43:03		1:33:56	3:27:19
Seaford by the Sea	21:33	21:44	64.81%	46:53	1:29:21
Knocky	21:42	17:45	72.66%	39:52		1:34:00	3:50:49
Simgull	21:51	20:21	68:04%	42:45	1:11:46	1:38:14	3:44:28
GNT	22:05	20:20	74.5%	40:31	1:19:12	1:31:18	4:19:55
Greg Bobkin	22:25	20:54	60.45%	42:	1:13:	1:39:	3:57:
Left Back	23.04	21:02	63.95%	45:47		1:43:27
Anchorman	23:32	21:34	67.00%
Soistes	23:35	21:53	69.19%	46:33		1:47:22
Bob!	24:06	22:41	65.42%	45.39	1:16:42	1:44:21	3:53:35
Mr Blobby	24:59	24:59	58.57%	49:31	1:23:34	1:51:01	4:28:36
Artie Fufkin		18:40	%	38:42		1:24:18	3:12:23
Capricorn		17:23	%	36:55		1:23:20	4:41:29
Pembury		18.58		39.08		1:33:02	3:19:
Bad Ash		19:40	%	43:27		1:35:00	3:43:03
JoePrecious		19:44	%	46:19	1:24:08	1:38:13	4:04:30
St Leonard's		19.44	%			1:34:35
Hooky		19:52	%
Dazzer		19.57	%			1:36	3:43:
Guinness Boy		22:04	%	46:50		1:46:03	4:00:06
m20gull		26:15	%	57:32		02:07:07	5:46:02
Badger				39:06		1:38:48	4:01:25
Jonny Rainbow				41:43

I've taken this opportunity to update my own numbers.