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Simgull

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Jan 3, 2013
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Ran up and down alternate roads south of New Church Road this evening - was amazed to find covered nearly eight miles by the time I’d finished.
 




Garry Nelson's teacher

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Bloody Worthing!
The GNT rocket! Good effort with or without wind.



Fully agree with you but I'm really enjoying 2 to 2 and a half hour runs at the moment. Variety of reasons and I need to follow my mojo.
Where I live is busier than usual and I like to venture north to see the surreal unpolluted, quiet, roads and countryside under lockdown.
Since December I have run less often but averaging 8-10 miles a run. This gives the old legs recovery time whilst gaining some mileage.
I've stopped daily swimming.
I'm going at a snail's pace and only covering 12-14 miles.


Finally as [MENTION=24635]Greg Bobkin[/MENTION] pointed out my double marathon last week wasn't. I did 52.2 instead of 52.4. So I'll do it this week.

Gaffer, you are notching up some impressive distances. But have you gone all Zen on us? What happened to the demon racer that lurks within? As a small motivation to get you back in that mode, I've just put my mile (which doesn't count) into the Grubb calculator and it came out as 74.4%. I'm thinking that this is (well?) within your compass, if not right now? I'm not trying to goad you!
 


Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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God how annoying......

Re the marathons, I've noticed there are loads of people knocking out long runs on Strava and in the FB ultra pages. One of the Sussex Trail Events guys did a 100 miler in someone's back garden in Worthing last weekend (23 hours-odd). James Elson is doing a regular facebook live session and he's been very clear that it isn't necessary, even if you have 50/100 mile events coming up in July/August to do long training runs - just be consistent - up to an hour a day with some quality sessions included throughout the week and maybe a 1.5-2 hour run once a week is plenty given no-one has any immediate events coming up. I wouldn't get angry about it though....most likely they know what they are doing and risk of injury (requiring A&E) is still pretty small.

Re London streets being quiet, BBC newsreader Sophie Raworth (v keen runner) often posts pics on Twitter as she runs to and from work - the Beeb did an article recently

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-52155029

This guy has been taking some remarkable pictures too :

https://www.facebook.com/DamienHewetsonPhotography/

I'm always a bit sceptical as to how much of a true reflection those images are (any images, in fact). Having driven up to Harley Street the other week, yes it was quiet around town, but not THAT quiet. There were still quite a few people out walking/shopping and plenty of cars driving around the place. I'm not taking anything away from the shots – they are clearly striking – but it makes me think how long they had to wait for some of them to be completely vehicle and people-free...
 


Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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Think that's fine - each to his own......that's no higher risk than some of the people who have suddenly found out that walking is good. On that, I'm finding some of the social media stuff annoying and hilarious in equal measure...............'Doris and I did 3.27 mile on our walk today and we discovered this simply fantastic path through the woods........................' - like they are some kind of latter-day Christopher Columbus or something, opening new frontiers.

Well, you and Doris can **** right off back to the pub or wherever it is you normally go when lockdown is over so I can have the trail I run EVERY WEEK back without having to dodge dopey old codgers moving at 1mph (noy you [MENTION=15605]knocky1[/MENTION] obviously :lolol:) who don't even try to move slightly to one side when someone is coming.

Ha ha! I'm having the same on my early morning runs. Suddenly, the whole world wants to be out and about at dawn, because they think it's quieter then. Yes, it's peaceful and yes, the sunrise looks amazing – why the cock do you think I get out at 5:30/6am?!

But no, you definitely SHOULDN'T do this more often. Have a few lockdown lie-ins :lol:

Although, having said that, Mrs B was out walking early, so I didn't set off until a ridiculous 8:40am today. Even MORE people about then!
 


dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
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Burgess Hill
I'm always a bit sceptical as to how much of a true reflection those images are (any images, in fact). Having driven up to Harley Street the other week, yes it was quiet around town, but not THAT quiet. There were still quite a few people out walking/shopping and plenty of cars driving around the place. I'm not taking anything away from the shots – they are clearly striking – but it makes me think how long they had to wait for some of them to be completely vehicle and people-free...

I'm not so sure, think they are genuine, just early in most cases - Hewetson has been taking loads - I think he's a commuting keyworker with a photography hobby. Rik Vercoe at Phoenix was doing something similar when he was still commuting too.
 




Bozza

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When I did my 13.1 last Sunday I left home at 5:30am to take in the sunrise when I reached the front. I've been avoiding the front at all other times as I figure it will just be too busy, and I've never been one for early morning runs usually. Most of my Sunday long runs tend to start around 9pm.

But I was surprised at how many people were about. Don't get me wrong, it was far from what anyone would call busy, but there were more people about, including small groups (presumably from the same households in most/all cases) sitting on the beach itself, than I expected.

I'll continue to avoid the front unless I'm out very early or very late.
 


knocky1

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Jan 20, 2010
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Gaffer, you are notching up some impressive distances. But have you gone all Zen on us? What happened to the demon racer that lurks within? As a small motivation to get you back in that mode, I've just put my mile (which doesn't count) into the Grubb calculator and it came out as 74.4%. I'm thinking that this is (well?) within your compass, if not right now? I'm not trying to goad you!


Auṃ maṇi padme hūṃ . 6:29 is a time that is an illusion: our naive perception of time’s flow doesn't correspond to physical reality.

I had, however, calculated yesterday that it was 74.4% and that I’d need to get my skates on to beat it with 6:09.
I will continue with my hills and distance for a couple of weeks using this time as motivation.

Coincidentally a quick check on Strava revealed a windy 4x4” sessions with 3” rest at 6:09 pace in March. https://www.strava.com/activities/3168708160
My only speed session this year apart from when I left the Garmin running on the train to Angmering.
 


Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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I'm not so sure, think they are genuine, just early in most cases - Hewetson has been taking loads - I think he's a commuting keyworker with a photography hobby. Rik Vercoe at Phoenix was doing something similar when he was still commuting too.

Yeah, I'm sure they're genuine, but turn the camera around and it could be a different story.

It's clearly quieter because the normal 3-4-hour journey took 90 minutes both times!
 




Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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Hauling the ORT back from page 2 after a cheeky 5k of loops this morning. It actually got me thinking about the table and wondered if there was a way of displaying the biggest 5km improvements of the year; a form table, if you will. Obviously with the existing one, the speedy guys are quite rightly going to be at the top, but what about a way of recognising who has made the biggest progress, relative to either the time at the beginning of the year or their overall PB?

One for the Excel-botherers, I think.

On a slightly related note, a WhatsApp group of mainly non-runners that have got into running has led to a lot of talk about 5k times, hence me getting back into them. One suggested that elevation on their run (about 80ft, I think) adds three minutes to their time. With that in mind – and taking off the three minutes for the 178ft for me today – my 20:46 this morning is a new PB :clap2:
 


Garry Nelson's teacher

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May 11, 2015
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Bloody Worthing!
Auṃ maṇi padme hūṃ . 6:29 is a time that is an illusion: our naive perception of time’s flow doesn't correspond to physical reality.

I had, however, calculated yesterday that it was 74.4% and that I’d need to get my skates on to beat it with 6:09.
I will continue with my hills and distance for a couple of weeks using this time as motivation.

Coincidentally a quick check on Strava revealed a windy 4x4” sessions with 3” rest at 6:09 pace in March. https://www.strava.com/activities/3168708160
My only speed session this year apart from when I left the Garmin running on the train to Angmering.

Now you've gone all Grammar School on me! I'm Secondary Modern me (as if you didn't know) so my natural sense of deference has kicked in and I predict that you'll duck under 6.

Looking forward to hearing of your progress. Like the Battle of Waterloo, it'll be a 'close run thing'!
 


knocky1

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Jan 20, 2010
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Now you've gone all Grammar School on me! I'm Secondary Modern me (as if you didn't know) so my natural sense of deference has kicked in and I predict that you'll duck under 6.

Looking forward to hearing of your progress. Like the Battle of Waterloo, it'll be a 'close run thing'!

I have a new game called hills and mileage. 90 miles in 12 days is a third of my years mileage. I even managed second place on the Arena Strava table yesterday. I’m usually second to bottom.
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It makes me realise I could probably run a marathon if I did some running training. Not sure what’s happened to me. 105 days alcohol free? 6 weeks sugar/carbo loading? A couple of days off now and may attempt a mile on Saturday.
 




Garry Nelson's teacher

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May 11, 2015
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Bloody Worthing!
I have a new game called hills and mileage. 90 miles in 12 days is a third of my years mileage. I even managed second place on the Arena Strava table yesterday. I’m usually second to bottom.
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It makes me realise I could probably run a marathon if I did some running training. Not sure what’s happened to me. 105 days alcohol free? 6 weeks sugar/carbo loading? A couple of days off now and may attempt a mile on Saturday.

All looking good. Have you got a 1 mile course lined up? Presumably your local prom.
 


dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
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Hauling the ORT back from page 2 after a cheeky 5k of loops this morning. It actually got me thinking about the table and wondered if there was a way of displaying the biggest 5km improvements of the year; a form table, if you will. Obviously with the existing one, the speedy guys are quite rightly going to be at the top, but what about a way of recognising who has made the biggest progress, relative to either the time at the beginning of the year or their overall PB?

One for the Excel-botherers, I think.

On a slightly related note, a WhatsApp group of mainly non-runners that have got into running has led to a lot of talk about 5k times, hence me getting back into them. One suggested that elevation on their run (about 80ft, I think) adds three minutes to their time. With that in mind – and taking off the three minutes for the 178ft for me today – my 20:46 this morning is a new PB :clap2:

Your maths is terrible - if it's 3 mins for 80ft, it must be at least 6 mins for 178ft - so more like a 17.30. [MENTION=15605]knocky1[/MENTION] needs to update the table :smile:
 


Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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Your maths is terrible - if it's 3 mins for 80ft, it must be at least 6 mins for 178ft - so more like a 17.30. [MENTION=15605]knocky1[/MENTION] needs to update the table :smile:

His suggestion was so ludicrous I didn't even bother going into the maths of my elevation compared with his :lol:
 






knocky1

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Jan 20, 2010
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Anyone using Citystrides.com ?
It takes all your runs from Strava and plots them on a map. Problem at moment is it’s very slow due to surge in newbies and Strava API limits, whatever that means.
At the moment I have 89 streets found over 48 hours. Still randomly adding and many missing. Found Kathmandu and Sofia Half Marathon but still a lot to find. This is it so far locally. Claire Park and Worthing but no Peacehaven and Eastbourne yet.
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Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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Anyone using Citystrides.com ?
It takes all your runs from Strava and plots them on a map. Problem at moment is it’s very slow due to surge in newbies and Strava API limits, whatever that means.
At the moment I have 89 streets found over 48 hours. Still randomly adding and many missing. Found Kathmandu and Sofia Half Marathon but still a lot to find. This is it so far locally. Claire Park and Worthing but no Peacehaven and Eastbourne yet.
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Sounds like a bit of a faff to me. Although I went on a new route today. Mrs Bobkin had walked it, so I thought I'd check it out. Basically takes you off the road that leads up to Truleigh Hill before the third car park and you bear right through Erringham Farm and eventually come out by the Tesco fuel station at Holmbush. It's not quite the SDW, but it shows an alternative way to get there, if I hadn't turned south when I did. My fear is that my sense of direction normally gets me lost, hence I played it safe this morning.
 




knocky1

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Jan 20, 2010
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Sounds like a bit of a faff to me. Although I went on a new route today. Mrs Bobkin had walked it, so I thought I'd check it out. Basically takes you off the road that leads up to Truleigh Hill before the third car park and you bear right through Erringham Farm and eventually come out by the Tesco fuel station at Holmbush. It's not quite the SDW, but it shows an alternative way to get there, if I hadn't turned south when I did. My fear is that my sense of direction normally gets me lost, hence I played it safe this morning.

No faff at all. I didn't want it as a route finder but as a historical map of routes covered. Just wait the countless number of weeks it takes for all runs to be found. Mine has found my Three Forts Challenge linking to SDW runs and when the Moyleman is found I'll have some pretty continuous lines around the outside of Brighton. I'm a map junkie anyway and it's right up my street, so to speak.
 




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