**** Official middle-aged man's Craft Beer thread ****

[pearl]

Still, at least we'll gain another estate agent on a prime site. Can never have too many of those eh?

Hartleys could be moving, off licence on the Beaconsfield stretch shut down ages ago and there's been a sign saying Hartleys opening soon (been there for months).

Makes no odds to me really as I'm cutting down blush: ... cough)

 

[Springal]

RIP Hartleys offie @ bottom of Preston Drove - stock and stuff being moved out even as we post

They just moved out of the one in Worthing (Broadwater) too.. Shame as did have some good beers. Findon one is still there I think ?

 

[thedonkeycentrehalf]

Anyone tried the beers from the Norwegian brewery Lervig? While in a little taproom in Germany last week I was introduced to their Passion Tang - a very refreshing Passion Fruit Sour but with a 7% kick behind it. Needless to say, I popped into Trafalgar Wines on Saturday and asked Steve if he had any. No surprise in that place to find that after a quick trip to the back room, a few bottle appeared - the man is amazing.

I also tried their Liquid Sex Robot DIPA (7.9%). I don't usually like DIPAs but this was very smooth and not too hoppy.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

New Beavertown tap room at White Hart Lane plus rumours they’re are to sell to Heineken.

https://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk...microbrewery-at-new-Tottenham-Hotspur-stadium

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Anyone tried the beers from the Norwegian brewery Lervig? While in a little taproom in Germany last week I was introduced to their Passion Tang - a very refreshing Passion Fruit Sour but with a 7% kick behind it. Needless to say, I popped into Trafalgar Wines on Saturday and asked Steve if he had any. No surprise in that place to find that after a quick trip to the back room, a few bottle appeared - the man is amazing.

I also tried their Liquid Sex Robot DIPA (7.9%). I don't usually like DIPAs but this was very smooth and not too hoppy.

I’ve had quite a few of their beers over the years including that DIPA. Decent brewery.

 

[Springal]

Probably the worst kept secret in the industry but Beavertown have sold a minority stake to Heineken.

https://www.beavertownbrewery.co.uk/brave-new-world-beaverworld/

Personally happy to give it a chance and see how it goes but many CBW's will be drain pouring their stocks of Beavertown tonight I suspect

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Probably the worst kept secret in the industry but Beavertown have sold a minority stake to Heineken.

https://www.beavertownbrewery.co.uk/brave-new-world-beaverworld/

Personally happy to give it a chance and see how it goes but many CBW's will be drain pouring their stocks of Beavertown tonight I suspect

Shame.

 

[Dirk Lehmann's Python]

Shame.

If the flip side of it is Neck Oil at the Amex then i think the good news outweighs the bad here...!!!

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[Springal]

If the flip side of it is Neck Oil at the Amex then i think the good news outweighs the bad here...!!!

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Can't see Sodexo going for it, margin would be to small or we'd be paying £8+ a pint

 

[Dirk Lehmann's Python]

Can't see Sodexo going for it, margin would be to small or we'd be paying £8+ a pint

They seem ok to experiment with guest beers and food items so who knows, if it's deemed part of the Heineken portfolio then there's a chance even if it's smallish.

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[Trufflehound]

Probably the worst kept secret in the industry but Beavertown have sold a minority stake to Heineken.

https://www.beavertownbrewery.co.uk/brave-new-world-beaverworld/

Personally happy to give it a chance and see how it goes but many CBW's will be drain pouring their stocks of Beavertown tonight I suspect

As compared to most of the global beer companies, Heineken generally has a good track record of keeping its hands off the brewing process with companies it buys into, so long as the company concerned keeps making money for them.

What they bring to Beavertown is a virtually unrivalled global distribution network. Whether the inevitable increase in demand this will bring about will force them to cut corners with brewing remains to be seen, but in that area as well Heineken have been known to put their money where their mouth is and stump up for the costs of brewery expansion.

Yes, they are a corporate multinational, but I trust them a lot more than I trust AB InBev* and some of the lesser majors.




*Then again, since I trust AB InBev not one iota, that isn't necessarily saying much...

 

[Dirk Lehmann's Python]

The new Bison Beer bar in the North Laine has 'soft launched'.

Absolutely magnificent range of beer.

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[Springal]

As compared to most of the global beer companies, Heineken generally has a good track record of keeping its hands off the brewing process with companies it buys into, so long as the company concerned keeps making money for them.

Unfortunately Heineken also have a reputation for aggressively pricing Heineken if you take one of their ‘Craft’ beers to for pubs. As well as actively paying pubs to remove competitors from their taps.

I.e we will pay you x per month to take Heineken and Neck Oil to replace your Punk IPA.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I see Stone Brewing have now distanced themselves from Beavortown

https://www.facebook.com/1399756180348033/posts/2109356209388023/

 

[Springal]

Loving Brewdog Hazy Jane at the moment! So drinkable in this weather

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Fourpure have now sold 100% of their business to Kirin.

 

[Springal]

Fourpure have now sold 100% of their business to Kirin.

Not the worst deal in the world but yeah not great.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Not the worst deal in the world but yeah not great.

Agree.I guess it’s inevitable as craft becomes more mainstream. I still plan to support independent brewers so, where I can, I’ll give this a swerve from now on.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

What’s the view of the new Holler Brewery and Tap Room?

My view is that it’s a nice space, the link with Fatton a Mano pizzas really good, beers are okay but nothing outstanding. From what I’ve heard they don’t have any brewing history which explains why I had never heard the name before and possibly why the beer is a bit average.

I wish them well though, they have a brilliant set up and infrastructure....hopefully the beer will follow.

 

[thedonkeycentrehalf]

What’s the view of the new Holler Brewery and Tap Room?

My view is that it’s a nice space, the link with Fatton a Mano pizzas really good, beers are okay but nothing outstanding. From what I’ve heard they don’t have any brewing history which explains why I had never heard the name before and possibly why the beer is a bit average.

I wish them well though, they have a brilliant set up and infrastructure....hopefully the beer will follow.

I was there before you on Saturday and had the same feeling. Good setup , the outside heaters work well, but the beer is pretty average and not much variety. If you don't like their beer then they don't have much else (one red wine, one white wine, limited spirits and nothing from other breweries). If you have an extensive range of beers then you can get away with only stocking your own stuff but in their case, they should invite another local brewer with a different range to help fill in the gaps.