[Albion] Odsonne Édouard

[saafend_seagull]

£18.5m fee is mad. If he’s pissed off just wait until January when fee would be like £5m


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[Washie]

£18.5m fee is mad. If he’s pissed off just wait until January when fee would be like £5m


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January would be free, to everyone

 

[Hugo Rune]

[emoji23] absolutely true.

But he does showcase very neat finishing and good ability on the ball. A world away from Locadia’s showreel.

A truly shite showreel that had me thinking that our scouts had seen something very different to the rest of us. He hits the ball very very hard with his right foot and can be accurate with his shooting but does not offer a lot more than that.

Edouard’s finishing however, is sublime for a lot of his goals, you put him in the goal scoring positions of messers Maupay, Trossard or Connolly and you surely get at least double figures.

 

[Sheebo]

£18.5m fee is mad. If he’s pissed off just wait until January when fee would be like £5m


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They were looking at £40 mil last summer - £18mil would be a great price. And I’m pretty sure someone will snap him up at that fee and Celtic will be keen to cash in so can’t see him being there jan. don’t agree with that post.

But I really don’t want to go deep into it when the chances are we’re not interested as per Naylor and Owen…

 

[um bongo molongo]

Well that couldn't have gone any better:

1. Celtic out of Europe so need the cash.
2. His performance was lacklustre so Celtic will be less inclined to take the piss with the fee
3. Supporters want him gone.

This reminds me of Duffy's last week at Blackburn - a couple of own goals and a red card, he left in ignominy and became a star at the Albion.

My thoughts exactly. Smacks of them having said to him ‘help us qualify for the CL and then you can go’. Really hoping this is good news for us.

 

[Lurker]

I read an article today ridiculing the respective fees allegedly being paid for Ben White and Man Utd's new superstar centre back, highlighting that Ben's experience/achievements were practically zero as opposed to the Frenchman who had played and won in virtually every major competition going, yet ridiculously White's fee was the higher.
This was explained, correctly in my view, as being because Ben White was younger, had more potential and would still have a resale value at the end of his contract, but most importantly ... Varane only had a year left of his contract.
The article stated that if Varane still had 2 or 3 years left on his contract then the fee would have been double or even treble.

Now extrapolate that scenario to Edouard and the much quoted fee of £20m for a player with less than a year left on his contract.
By definition that sort of suggests that his 'normal' value would be at something between £40m & £60m if he was still on a longer term contract.
Seriously?

I think some of you guys need to give your heads a big wobble.
It seems to me that some of you are so desperate to see a striker sign, all common sense has gone out of the window and virtually anyone will do.

From all the video evidence I have seen he is not worth £20m.
His goalscoring stats look pretty decent on paper, until you look at the level he scored them in.
The EPL is a million miles away from U21 internationals, a million miles away from Champions League qualification games, and a hundred million miles away from the Monkey Tennis league.

I would love to see if he could make the step up, he's the right age and he looks built the right way and I'm in the 'let's take a punt on him' camp, ...... but not at £20m chaps.
That's not a punt.
A punt is when you can say "oh well, it was worth a try, better luck next time", and you resign yourself to losing your investment.
We can't afford to spunk another £20m on a punt.
We've done it twice on Locadia and Ali J (i know it was slightly below £20m but the point is still valid), and we can't expect TB to do it again.

In football terms for little old us, a punt equates to the £2m - £5m bracket, ... not £20m, we need better than Odsonne for that sort of dosh.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

I read an article today ridiculing the respective fees allegedly being paid for Ben White and Man Utd's new superstar centre back, highlighting that Ben's experience/achievements were practically zero as opposed to the Frenchman who had played and won in virtually every major competition going, yet ridiculously White's fee was the higher.
This was explained, correctly in my view, as being because Ben White was younger, had more potential and would still have a resale value at the end of his contract, but most importantly ... Varane only had a year left of his contract.
The article stated that if Varane still had 2 or 3 years left on his contract then the fee would have been double or even treble.

Now extrapolate that scenario to Edouard and the much quoted fee of £20m for a player with less than a year left on his contract.
By definition that sort of suggests that his 'normal' value would be at something between £40m & £60m if he was still on a longer term contract.
Seriously?

I think some of you guys need to give your heads a big wobble.
It seems to me that some of you are so desperate to see a striker sign, all common sense has gone out of the window and virtually anyone will do.

From all the video evidence I have seen he is not worth £20m.
His goalscoring stats look pretty decent on paper, until you look at the level he scored them in.
The EPL is a million miles away from U21 internationals, a million miles away from Champions League qualification games, and a hundred million miles away from the Monkey Tennis league.

I would love to see if he could make the step up, he's the right age and he looks built the right way and I'm in the 'let's take a punt on him' camp, ...... but not at £20m chaps.
That's not a punt.
A punt is when you can say "oh well, it was worth a try, better luck next time", and you resign yourself to losing your investment.
We can't afford to spunk another £20m on a punt.
We've done it twice on Locadia and Ali J (i know it was slightly below £20m but the point is still valid), and we can't expect TB to do it again.

In football terms for little old us, a punt equates to the £2m - £5m bracket, ... not £20m, we need better than Odsonne for that sort of dosh.

Don't know about all that, but they are the same age, 23.

 

[Frankworthington]

I read an article today ridiculing the respective fees allegedly being paid for Ben White and Man Utd's new superstar centre back, highlighting that Ben's experience/achievements were practically zero as opposed to the Frenchman who had played and won in virtually every major competition going, yet ridiculously White's fee was the higher.
This was explained, correctly in my view, as being because Ben White was younger, had more potential and would still have a resale value at the end of his contract, but most importantly ... Varane only had a year left of his contract.
The article stated that if Varane still had 2 or 3 years left on his contract then the fee would have been double or even treble.

Now extrapolate that scenario to Edouard and the much quoted fee of £20m for a player with less than a year left on his contract.
By definition that sort of suggests that his 'normal' value would be at something between £40m & £60m if he was still on a longer term contract.
Seriously?

I think some of you guys need to give your heads a big wobble.
It seems to me that some of you are so desperate to see a striker sign, all common sense has gone out of the window and virtually anyone will do.

From all the video evidence I have seen he is not worth £20m.
His goalscoring stats look pretty decent on paper, until you look at the level he scored them in.
The EPL is a million miles away from U21 internationals, a million miles away from Champions League qualification games, and a hundred million miles away from the Monkey Tennis league.

I would love to see if he could make the step up, he's the right age and he looks built the right way and I'm in the 'let's take a punt on him' camp, ...... but not at £20m chaps.
That's not a punt.
A punt is when you can say "oh well, it was worth a try, better luck next time", and you resign yourself to losing your investment.
We can't afford to spunk another £20m on a punt.
We've done it twice on Locadia and Ali J (i know it was slightly below £20m but the point is still valid), and we can't expect TB to do it again.

In football terms for little old us, a punt equates to the £2m - £5m bracket, ... not £20m, we need better than Odsonne for that sort of dosh.

The voice of of reason

Fortunately it is not happening

 

[GT49er]

I read an article today ridiculing the respective fees allegedly being paid for Ben White and Man Utd's new superstar centre back, highlighting that Ben's experience/achievements were practically zero as opposed to the Frenchman who had played and won in virtually every major competition going, yet ridiculously White's fee was the higher.
This was explained, correctly in my view, as being because Ben White was younger, had more potential and would still have a resale value at the end of his contract, but most importantly ... Varane only had a year left of his contract.
The article stated that if Varane still had 2 or 3 years left on his contract then the fee would have been double or even treble.

Now extrapolate that scenario to Edouard and the much quoted fee of £20m for a player with less than a year left on his contract.
By definition that sort of suggests that his 'normal' value would be at something between £40m & £60m if he was still on a longer term contract.
Seriously?

I think some of you guys need to give your heads a big wobble.
It seems to me that some of you are so desperate to see a striker sign, all common sense has gone out of the window and virtually anyone will do.

From all the video evidence I have seen he is not worth £20m.
His goalscoring stats look pretty decent on paper, until you look at the level he scored them in.
The EPL is a million miles away from U21 internationals, a million miles away from Champions League qualification games, and a hundred million miles away from the Monkey Tennis league.

I would love to see if he could make the step up, he's the right age and he looks built the right way and I'm in the 'let's take a punt on him' camp, ...... but not at £20m chaps.
That's not a punt.
A punt is when you can say "oh well, it was worth a try, better luck next time", and you resign yourself to losing your investment.
We can't afford to spunk another £20m on a punt.
We've done it twice on Locadia and Ali J (i know it was slightly below £20m but the point is still valid), and we can't expect TB to do it again.

In football terms for little old us, a punt equates to the £2m - £5m bracket, ... not £20m, we need better than Odsonne for that sort of dosh.

100% this.

Don't know about all that, but they are the same age, 23.

Apart from Varane being born five years before Edouard, spot on!

 

[Husty]

I read an article today ridiculing the respective fees allegedly being paid for Ben White and Man Utd's new superstar centre back, highlighting that Ben's experience/achievements were practically zero as opposed to the Frenchman who had played and won in virtually every major competition going, yet ridiculously White's fee was the higher.
This was explained, correctly in my view, as being because Ben White was younger, had more potential and would still have a resale value at the end of his contract, but most importantly ... Varane only had a year left of his contract.
The article stated that if Varane still had 2 or 3 years left on his contract then the fee would have been double or even treble.

Now extrapolate that scenario to Edouard and the much quoted fee of £20m for a player with less than a year left on his contract.
By definition that sort of suggests that his 'normal' value would be at something between £40m & £60m if he was still on a longer term contract.
Seriously?

I think some of you guys need to give your heads a big wobble.
It seems to me that some of you are so desperate to see a striker sign, all common sense has gone out of the window and virtually anyone will do.

From all the video evidence I have seen he is not worth £20m.
His goalscoring stats look pretty decent on paper, until you look at the level he scored them in.
The EPL is a million miles away from U21 internationals, a million miles away from Champions League qualification games, and a hundred million miles away from the Monkey Tennis league.

I would love to see if he could make the step up, he's the right age and he looks built the right way and I'm in the 'let's take a punt on him' camp, ...... but not at £20m chaps.
That's not a punt.
A punt is when you can say "oh well, it was worth a try, better luck next time", and you resign yourself to losing your investment.
We can't afford to spunk another £20m on a punt.
We've done it twice on Locadia and Ali J (i know it was slightly below £20m but the point is still valid), and we can't expect TB to do it again.

In football terms for little old us, a punt equates to the £2m - £5m bracket, ... not £20m, we need better than Odsonne for that sort of dosh.

Right, and WHO are we going to get that is better for that cash? Strikers cost money. If we have this budget to spend on one, and we know we do because we've already bid it for a forward this window, then we ould make the signing. Yes there's a big risk it won't work out. Even so. Stupid post.

 

[GT49er]

Right, and WHO are we going to get that is better for that cash? Strikers cost money. If we have this budget to spend on one, and we know we do because we've already bid it for a forward this window, then we ould make the signing. Yes there's a big risk it won't work out. Even so. Stupid post.

We've trousered £50M and we need a striker - any striker. So we can pay over the odds for any striker so we'd better do that. Big risk? - big punt more like. If he comes here I'll be willing him on to score for fun, but ................................

 

[Baldseagull]

Was linked with going back to PSG, Arsenal, Leicester were literally in for him - I’m sure your post is tongue in cheek but I think he’s decent and just what we need.

I am not disagreeing with your point, but I think Leicester were also interested in Jahanbakhsh just prior to us landing him.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Last season was a horrible one for Celtic and yet Edouard still scored a lot of goals. If Brendan Rogers fancied buying him - and Leicester are pushing for a Champions League place - then that is a useful indicator he may have what it takes.

I also think the French language thing may help him integrate with Trossard and Maupay too. That triumvirate could be quite formidable if they gel.

 

[vagabond]

I read an article today ridiculing the respective fees allegedly being paid for Ben White and Man Utd's new superstar centre back, highlighting that Ben's experience/achievements were practically zero as opposed to the Frenchman who had played and won in virtually every major competition going, yet ridiculously White's fee was the higher.
This was explained, correctly in my view, as being because Ben White was younger, had more potential and would still have a resale value at the end of his contract, but most importantly ... Varane only had a year left of his contract.
The article stated that if Varane still had 2 or 3 years left on his contract then the fee would have been double or even treble.

Now extrapolate that scenario to Edouard and the much quoted fee of £20m for a player with less than a year left on his contract.
By definition that sort of suggests that his 'normal' value would be at something between £40m & £60m if he was still on a longer term contract.
Seriously?

I think some of you guys need to give your heads a big wobble.
It seems to me that some of you are so desperate to see a striker sign, all common sense has gone out of the window and virtually anyone will do.

From all the video evidence I have seen he is not worth £20m.
His goalscoring stats look pretty decent on paper, until you look at the level he scored them in.
The EPL is a million miles away from U21 internationals, a million miles away from Champions League qualification games, and a hundred million miles away from the Monkey Tennis league.

I would love to see if he could make the step up, he's the right age and he looks built the right way and I'm in the 'let's take a punt on him' camp, ...... but not at £20m chaps.
That's not a punt.
A punt is when you can say "oh well, it was worth a try, better luck next time", and you resign yourself to losing your investment.
We can't afford to spunk another £20m on a punt.
We've done it twice on Locadia and Ali J (i know it was slightly below £20m but the point is still valid), and we can't expect TB to do it again.

In football terms for little old us, a punt equates to the £2m - £5m bracket, ... not £20m, we need better than Odsonne for that sort of dosh.

So which striker can we realistically get who’s better?

 

[GT49er]

So which striker can we realistically get who’s better?

Welbeck perhaps. And given that Maupay's record before he signed for us is pretty much equal to Edouard's, we can reasonably expect him to match Maupay's performance. So we've already got a £20M 10 goals (more or less) a season striker.
Who can we reasonably get who's better than Welbeck and Maupay is largely irrelevant. Perhaps we can't - in which case we might as well keep hold of the £20M.

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

So which striker can we realistically get who’s better?

Maybe nobody, but is he any better than what we have? There's no point in spending for the sake of it. The problem for me was the dismal return from midfield players. Lallana 1, Ally Mac 1, Gross 3 (all penalties), Bissouma 1, Moder 0, March 2, Alzate 1.

 

[holybanjo]

So which striker can we realistically get who’s better?

I remember when we were being linked with Samatta who Villa paid about £20m for only for him to do nothing and then sold him for £5m to Fenerbache


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[brighton_tom]

I read an article today ridiculing the respective fees allegedly being paid for Ben White and Man Utd's new superstar centre back, highlighting that Ben's experience/achievements were practically zero as opposed to the Frenchman who had played and won in virtually every major competition going, yet ridiculously White's fee was the higher.
This was explained, correctly in my view, as being because Ben White was younger, had more potential and would still have a resale value at the end of his contract, but most importantly ... Varane only had a year left of his contract.
The article stated that if Varane still had 2 or 3 years left on his contract then the fee would have been double or even treble.

Now extrapolate that scenario to Edouard and the much quoted fee of £20m for a player with less than a year left on his contract.
By definition that sort of suggests that his 'normal' value would be at something between £40m & £60m if he was still on a longer term contract.
Seriously?

I think some of you guys need to give your heads a big wobble.
It seems to me that some of you are so desperate to see a striker sign, all common sense has gone out of the window and virtually anyone will do.

From all the video evidence I have seen he is not worth £20m.
His goalscoring stats look pretty decent on paper, until you look at the level he scored them in.
The EPL is a million miles away from U21 internationals, a million miles away from Champions League qualification games, and a hundred million miles away from the Monkey Tennis league.

I would love to see if he could make the step up, he's the right age and he looks built the right way and I'm in the 'let's take a punt on him' camp, ...... but not at £20m chaps.
That's not a punt.
A punt is when you can say "oh well, it was worth a try, better luck next time", and you resign yourself to losing your investment.
We can't afford to spunk another £20m on a punt.
We've done it twice on Locadia and Ali J (i know it was slightly below £20m but the point is still valid), and we can't expect TB to do it again.

In football terms for little old us, a punt equates to the £2m - £5m bracket, ... not £20m, we need better than Odsonne for that sort of dosh.

The problem is that these days for a Premier league striker £2-5m doesnt even get you a punt, it would barely get you 1 leg of a punt. That sort of money gets you a young player who might one day possibly progress into being a first team player, if you're lucky, like we did with Zeqiri. If you want more of a sure thing a decent striker is going to set you back £30/40m or more (unless you get really lucky plucking someone out of a foreign league), and we just dont have the finances to spunk that sort of money on one player. That leaves us in the tricky middle ground of needing a Premier league striker who will have more of a first team impact NOW, rather than the usual 'ones for the future', but we also cant afford the top players. Also add to the conundrum the idea that teams will charge us well over the top for their asset just because we're in the money rich Premier league. Because £20m is a wedge of money to us you'd hope we'd be getting a player who is pretty certain to bring us goals, but unfortunately because of how ludicrous the transfer market is that sort of money still only gets you a player who is in part a risk, like Edouard. So the options then become either we dont buy a striker at all, we buy another Zeqiri in the hope he one day comes good, we blow all the Ben White money on a dead cert of player, or we have to look at players who are within our budget and weigh up whether the risk is worth taking. Realistically its the latter, and so any potential signing will come with this trepidation of whether they can cut it or not. Its an unavoidable situation for us.

The reality is that when you look around at whats being spent these days its difficult to justify that a Premier League ready striker who will guarantee us goals can be bought for £20m. I'd like it if we can get ''better than Odsonne for that sort of dosh'' but its a very tricky game trying to unearth that player.

 

[GT49er]

The problem is that these days for a Premier league striker £2-5m doesnt even get you a punt, it would barely get you 1 leg of a punt. That sort of money gets you a young player who might one day possibly progress into being a first team player, if you're lucky, like we did with Zeqiri. If you want more of a sure thing a decent striker is going to set you back £30/40m or more (unless you get really lucky plucking someone out of a foreign league), and we just dont have the finances to spunk that sort of money on one player. That leaves us in the tricky middle ground of needing a Premier league striker who will have more of a first team impact NOW, rather than the usual 'ones for the future', but we also cant afford the top players. Also add to the conundrum the idea that teams will charge us well over the top for their asset just because we're in the money rich Premier league. Because £20m is a wedge of money to us you'd hope we'd be getting a player who is pretty certain to bring us goals, but unfortunately because of how ludicrous the transfer market is that sort of money still only gets you a player who is in part a risk, like Edouard. So the options then become either we dont buy a striker at all, we buy another Zeqiri in the hope he one day comes good, we blow all the Ben White money on a dead cert of player, or we have to look at players who are within our budget any weigh up whether the risk is worth taking. Realistically its the latter, and so any potential signing will come with this trepidation of whether they can cut it or not. Its an unavoidable situation for us.

And if we think he can't or won't cut it .......................... do we go with not buying a striker at all, or buy a striker - any striker - anyway?

 

[The Fits]

He scored 17 goals in 14 games for the French U21s. Was the golden boy and
golden boot at the U17 Euros. He’s got 7 goals in the Europa League including against AC Milan, got two assists when they beat Lazio unexpectedly. 6 goals in Champions League qualifiers and has played in the Champions League (at 19).
I’d take that for 20 million.
That’s less than Brewster cost for goodness sake.