darkwolf666
Well-known member
Heartbreaking isn't, and yes some may have "had a good innings", but they are all someone's mother, father, son or daughter, and the immense pain will be felt by all those that survive then!
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Number of Deaths
- Thread starter Tim Over Whelmed
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Heartbreaking isn't, and yes some may have "had a good innings", but they are all someone's mother, father, son or daughter, and the immense pain will be felt by all those that survive then!
Think you're right - some locations (London in particular) are under more immense pressure than others..............on the more positive front, the work done to create capacity (even if some of that is unpalatable normally - like discharging patients who aren't really ready) does at least mean things are currently under control in some places. Just have to hope the social distancing has the desired effect and the stream of victims remains manageable.
Yikes!
"The largest study so far to look at mortality among coronavirus patients on ventilators was done by the Intensive Care National Audit & Research Centre in London. It found that among 98 ventilated patients in the U.K., just 33 were discharged alive."
1 in 3 chance once on ventilator.
1 in 3 chance once on ventilator.
Kalimantan Gull
Well-known member
I guess the take home message from this thread, albeit that no one actually knows the precise answer to the question originally posed, is that the lockdowns are working. Hate to think what the death numbers would become if we weren't doing this.
Moreover, if it is the case that the people doing are mainly 'those who would have died anyway', what we don't know is how many other people would die if they were weren't receiving intensive care, and therefore once again the implication of no lockdown is hospital capacity exceeded and more people not able to be saved who currently can be.
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
- 28,272
I agree 100%, every passing is a tragedy, and in this day and age it is nigh on impossible to attend a funeral to pay your respects due to restrictions, this is a further blow to grieving yet celebrating a loved ones life.
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
- 28,272
Cripes.
- Thread starter
- #68
Absolute rubbish, I'm asking a question and stating that the figures stated MAY not be accurate, which is true, trust me I have absolutely no doubt of the severity of this crisis.
Wrong-Direction
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- Mar 10, 2013
- 13,634
Misses reckons numbers we're being told are bollocks and it's much higher, suddenly cases shot up in Brighton
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Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
I assume you are self aware? Have you never once considered it thought about why you seem to have problems with so many different posters here, most of which do not have problems with others? Is it a case that everyone else is wrong?
- Thread starter
- #71
No, I don't. I'm playing the bloody number DOWN.
With that statement I am down playing the numbers not sensationalising. What I am saying is at this time of year around 1,600 people sadly die daily, so when we report say 600 deaths of COVID-19 I'm saying is that a true number down directly to that or would some of those died on a normal April day through flu or another reasonably mundane virus etc.
Me, play to hype, couldn't be further from the truth my friend.
darkwolf666
Well-known member
No, that's why he is on many an ignore list!
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
Lalalalala, I can't hear you with my fingers in my ears.
Seriously, I wonder if a forum with all kinds of different ideas suits you. I was trying to help you reflect.
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
You may as well give up. It is sad.
Weststander
Well-known member
Unwittingly, you’ve got NSC’s crazed Jack Russell snapping at your heels, on yet another charmless crusade.
My commiserations.
Birdie Boy
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- Jun 17, 2011
- 4,387
The total number of deaths that are reported are the number that died with CV19 but what is the number of daily deaths at the moment of any illness or old age? Is this number nearer the 1600 being quoted? If 600 died on one day with CV19, was there another 1000 deaths of natural causes, accidents etc?
darkwolf666
Well-known member
I think the problem is, as the phrase you have used, "died with" as opposed to " died of". It would be nice (not really) to get some proper understanding of these figures!
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
darkwolf666
Well-known member
No, it's not grim reading as there is zero to back those figures up!
Where's the data to back these figures up, or are they just back of a fag packet numbers?
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
No-one was 'hyping wild theories'. You are the one sensationalising the conversation with your hysterical reaction. It took me a long while when I was younger, to not over-react when I disagreed with someone, I felt such urgency to convey how wrong they were and conversely how right I was. I still fail quite frequently I may add, but more often I balance things out. You seem to lack the ability to balance things, or accept that others look at the subject in another light. It is great to have passion, an impassioned argument may win many a soul over, but frankly, the manner you are going about it will only cause division, usually you/the rest of us. It is only a matter of time before you are permanently banned imo as you either seem incapable, but maybe you are unwilling, to wind your neck in when needed. It has been said, blessed are the peacemakers, we could all do with some peace in these troubled times. Maybe give it a try?