North stand standing what a joke

[attila]

Standing at matches was made 'illegal' as a result of an anti football political agenda backed by lies and calumnies about Liverpool fans after the Hillsborough tragedy. The measure was always unjust and stupid, and, now the truth about Hillsborough has finally surfaced, the tide is turning. At a football league meeting on the 14th February all Championship clubs, bar one, voted in favour of a motion to allow safe standing trials with a view to clubs being allowed to build these areas if the trials were a success.
At the moment it is still 'illegal' to stand, but the reality is that most clubs don't enforce that rule in singing areas. The inconsistency of the situation is the best argument for formally scrapping the 'no standing' rule in selected seated areas as a precursor to introducing safe standing, and (sensible) pressure from fans will play a part in bringing that about sooner rather than later. As with all our other campaigns it's a question of tactics. Non violent, non aggressive standing in the North Stand in the current situation is for me in the long tradition of the kind of controlled and sensible direct action by Albion fans which played such a huge role in saving our club.

 

[keaton]

I honestly can't believe that an Albion fan, a proper fan, would be anything other than supportive towards the standers. You do understand what the consequences of an all sitting North would be don't you? Firstly, the people who want to stand will simply stop coming, and start attending away games only. These are the people who create the atmosphere. So the North will be half-full every week. And silent. Then the fans who like football BECAUSE of the atmosphere, not despite it like you seem to, these people will stop coming every week and will start going to more away games. And then finally, as matches are played out in silence infront of 12,000 people sitting there listening to the players shout at each other, the occasionals, the people who come from time to time because football is enjoyable to watch, but also because of the colour and the noise etc, the things that make football unique, these people will stop bothering. So you'll basically end up with a sort of deluxe version of the Withdean experience... and that was a really popular well attended stadium wasn't it!

I supported the team at the Goldstone, the Priestfield, every season at Withers and i haven't missed a home game yet at the Amex. But i am so disillusioned by the Club's bellicose and weirdly aggressive attitude to people as loyal and committed as me - who are doing EXACTLY the same as the people in the away end, and at football stadiums up and down the country, that i'm now undecided about renewing my season ticket.

Sorry, some people will stop coming to Albion games unless they can stand up? They've gotta be worse than JCLs

 

[Hillian1]

Standing at matches was made 'illegal' as a result of an anti football political agenda backed by lies and calumnies about Liverpool fans after the Hillsborough tragedy. The measure was always unjust and stupid, and, now the truth about Hillsborough has finally surfaced, the tide is turning. At a football league meeting on the 14th February all Championship clubs, bar one, voted in favour of a motion to allow safe standing trials with a view to clubs being allowed to build these areas if the trials were a success.
At the moment it is still 'illegal' to stand, but the reality is that most clubs don't enforce that rule in singing areas. The inconsistency of the situation is the best argument for formally scrapping the 'no standing' rule in selected seated areas as a precursor to introducing safe standing, and (sensible) pressure from fans will play a part in bringing that about sooner rather than later. As with all our other campaigns it's a question of tactics. Non violent, non aggressive standing in the North Stand in the current situation is for me in the long tradition of the kind of controlled and sensible direct action by Albion fans which played such a huge role in saving our club.

Who was the one?

 

[attila]

don't know, sorry...but I don't think it was us

 

[TheFatBallBoy]

Standing at matches was made 'illegal' as a result of an anti football political agenda backed by lies and calumnies about Liverpool fans after the Hillsborough tragedy. The measure was always unjust and stupid, and, now the truth about Hillsborough has finally surfaced, the tide is turning. At a football league meeting on the 14th February all Championship clubs, bar one, voted in favour of a motion to allow safe standing trials with a view to clubs being allowed to build these areas if the trials were a success.
At the moment it is still 'illegal' to stand, but the reality is that most clubs don't enforce that rule in singing areas. The inconsistency of the situation is the best argument for formally scrapping the 'no standing' rule in selected seated areas as a precursor to introducing safe standing, and (sensible) pressure from fans will play a part in bringing that about sooner rather than later. As with all our other campaigns it's a question of tactics. Non violent, non aggressive standing in the North Stand in the current situation is for me in the long tradition of the kind of controlled and sensible direct action by Albion fans which played such a huge role in saving our club.

Terracing is the hooligans landscape,DON'T LET THEM BACK

 

[attila]

Terracing is the hooligans landscape,DON'T LET THEM BACK

People DIE on the roads every day, BAN CARS

 

[Alex Alex Dawson oo! oo!]

Standing at matches was made 'illegal' as a result of an anti football political agenda backed by lies and calumnies about Liverpool fans after the Hillsborough tragedy. The measure was always unjust and stupid, and, now the truth about Hillsborough has finally surfaced, the tide is turning. At a football league meeting on the 14th February all Championship clubs, bar one, voted in favour of a motion to allow safe standing trials with a view to clubs being allowed to build these areas if the trials were a success.
At the moment it is still 'illegal' to stand, but the reality is that most clubs don't enforce that rule in singing areas. The inconsistency of the situation is the best argument for formally scrapping the 'no standing' rule in selected seated areas as a precursor to introducing safe standing, and (sensible) pressure from fans will play a part in bringing that about sooner rather than later. As with all our other campaigns it's a question of tactics. Non violent, non aggressive standing in the North Stand in the current situation is for me in the long tradition of the kind of controlled and sensible direct action by Albion fans which played such a huge role in saving our club.

Attlia,
Do you know if the implications of allowing standing areas, either officially if the Hillsborough based legislation is repealed, or the supposed now "reality" were considered at the FL meeting wrt the Equality Act, that's now replaced the DDA? I find it difficult to see how the facility access requirements of the EA will/can be met for the different disabled fans covered by the Act in such standing areas. I think Paul Barber has alluded to this previously. Ta.

 

[rool]

There was a goon of a bloke a couple of rows in front of me Saturday who spent virtually all of the match shouting at Stewards to FO and making wanker signs at them. He was a weedy bloke and old enough to know better but had a man mountain of a mate who was quiet as a mouse. He then proceeded to start pointing at the stewards gathered in the NE corner and generally taking the piss and goading them.
The idiot only then left about five minutes early and tried to sneak out of the exit immediately in front of the stewards but was greeted by a couple of them and assume escorted from the ground ha ha.

I don't know what the issue was with the loud group at the back of the NE corner though as they would have been in the back four rows anyway. Easy targets maybe?

 

[les dynam]

Standing at matches was made 'illegal' as a result of an anti football political agenda backed by lies and calumnies about Liverpool fans after the Hillsborough tragedy. The measure was always unjust and stupid, and, now the truth about Hillsborough has finally surfaced, the tide is turning. At a football league meeting on the 14th February all Championship clubs, bar one, voted in favour of a motion to allow safe standing trials with a view to clubs being allowed to build these areas if the trials were a success.
At the moment it is still 'illegal' to stand, but the reality is that most clubs don't enforce that rule in singing areas. The inconsistency of the situation is the best argument for formally scrapping the 'no standing' rule in selected seated areas as a precursor to introducing safe standing, and (sensible) pressure from fans will play a part in bringing that about sooner rather than later. As with all our other campaigns it's a question of tactics. Non violent, non aggressive standing in the North Stand in the current situation is for me in the long tradition of the kind of controlled and sensible direct action by Albion fans which played such a huge role in saving our club.

Do you know if the Football Supporters Federation, or anybody else, is formulating some sort of campaign on this. I know they're involved in the Safe Standing thing, but for me the Safe Standing campaign sort of plays into the hands of people who think everybody should always stay seated i.e. it makes people think that people standing up in all-seater stadiums is unsafe, when this is plainly complete nonsense.

 

[attila]

So far there's the Safe Standing Roadshow as a rallying point for the campaign - they will give you answers on the disabled issue..
The unacceptable face of standing in 2012? - Safe Standing Roadshow.co.uk
Must stress that I am not actively involved in this campaign other than sounding out Paul Barber, I'm enjoying a period of 'just' supporting the Albion, but I am 100% behind it and think the inconsistency of application of the 'no standing' rule (as evinced by last Sat compared to other games) is the best reason to scrap it..

 

[Husty]

I don't know what the issue was with the loud group at the back of the NE corner though as they would have been in the back four rows anyway. Easy targets maybe?

Trying to create an atmosphere, a most hideous of crimes in the eyes of prick hebberd

 

[Captain Sensible]

So far there's the Safe Standing Roadshow as a rallying point for the campaign - they will give you answers on the disabled issue..
The unacceptable face of standing in 2012? - Safe Standing Roadshow.co.uk
Must stress that I am not actively involved in this campaign other than sounding out Paul Barber, I'm enjoying a period of 'just' supporting the Albion, but I am 100% behind it and think the inconsistency of application of the 'no standing' rule (as evinced by last Sat compared to other games) is the best reason to scrap it..

Completely with you on this one.
I don't get why we can't just copy the Germans? In fact I'd love it if we copied everything about German football. It is superior to us in almost every respect. Standing being the main thing. Football's bubble in England will burst at some point.

 

[les dynam]

Does anybody know if Hebbard is an employee or a consultant? If he's a consultant, does it not seem a bit odd that the person who's instigating the current disputes via the instructions issued to stewards, and by the sheer number of stewards stationed in the North to intimidate people... is EXACTLY the person who has a vested interest in these situations taking place? You can't justify your fees if nothing much happens! Just a thought.

 

[murraymints4brighton]

Monday evening, back from work and I still can't get out of my head how poorly treated that bloke was on Saturday. Having heard from a poster on here and other fans that emailing the club about this is simply not the way forward, maybe there can be something else done. Although it wouldnt help the team, is a silent protest at the match a better way forward? Not for the whole game, maybe just a half, of the north stand sitting down? Im not saying we sit down and stop singing but it does semm the more sitting down the less singing?

Again, I am not a persistent stander who is against the safety laws in place. I am just utterly disgusted at how that man was treated on Saturday and the general attitude of the stewards in the north stand.

 

[Garage_Doors]

Sorry, some people will stop coming to Albion games unless they can stand up? They've gotta be worse than JCLs

Any fan that would stop coming to games unless they could stand could not possible be real fans of the Albion.

 

[Hiney]

It seems to me that the problem isn't with standing as such, it's with the moronic gobby bastards who think it's big and clever to take the stewards on.

I sit in the old N1A and for the most part, it's been pretty self-regulating. I prefer to stand but if the blokes behind me sit down, then I will as well, out of common courtesy. If we're all standing and the stewards start going round telling people to sit down then I will, then CUNNINGLY stand up again shortly afterwards. It's NEVER been a problem in a season and a half.

The GOONS who kick off and pick fights with the stewards are doing more harm to the cause than good.

 

[queens park pete]

It seems to me that the problem isn't with standing as such, it's with the moronic gobby bastards who think it's big and clever to take the stewards on.

I sit in the old N1A and for the most part, it's been pretty self-regulating. I prefer to stand but if the blokes behind me sit down, then I will as well, out of common courtesy. If we're all standing and the stewards start going round telling people to sit down then I will, then CUNNINGLY stand up again shortly afterwards. It's NEVER been a problem in a season and a half.



The GOONS who kick off and pick fights with the stewards are doing more harm to the cause than good.

Spot on Hiney1

 

[Beach Hut]

It seems to me that the problem isn't with standing as such, it's with the moronic gobby bastards who think it's big and clever to take the stewards on.

I sit in the old N1A and for the most part, it's been pretty self-regulating. I prefer to stand but if the blokes behind me sit down, then I will as well, out of common courtesy. If we're all standing and the stewards start going round telling people to sit down then I will, then CUNNINGLY stand up again shortly afterwards. It's NEVER been a problem in a season and a half.

The GOONS who kick off and pick fights with the stewards are doing more harm to the cause than good.

Indeed didn't a certain poster banned recently spin some sob story but really it was all about a confrontation.

 

[HovaGirl]

You mean you've just Googled it and realised that you were wrong, there is no law against standing and this was the best reply you could come up with without admitting your mistake?

Football Spectators Act 1989 [ http://www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/SN03937.pdf ]

 

[HovaGirl]

Perhaps cause only 10% of the 10% feel they need to stand. Is it a hemorrhoid thing?

Standing "proves" they are true Albion fans and not plastics, eh?