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[Albion] No Veltman, no party



Han Solo

Well-known member
May 25, 2024
3,614
Indeed. Also Veltman once played left back and was a disaster, at fault for two goals and I believe was sent off at home to Everton(?), I think. Never played there again in his career, very probably at his insistence.

Always find it fascinating how in theory you’re just doing the same thing but on the other side of the pitch?
Its so complicated to play when your opponent know you will never go on the outside. Inverted wingers have a better time as they can go inside and either win the duel or score a goal. But as full/wingback, its dangerous to carry the ball into midfield unless you're really good at it.

Going on the outside with your non-natural foot feels bad because you play against both the sideline and the opponent. You usually need your most sensitive foot to be able to make that run or pass on the outside.

Its tough. And while you defensively get the advantage of facing (in our time usually inverted) wingers with your best foot, its often not worth it since you'll most often duel their own wing back anyway. And trying to take the ball off Trent Alexander-Arnold with your best foot is difficult enough.

Veltman certainly doesn't strike me like someone who should play there. But then again the squad maybe hasn't been flooded with left back usually.
 














Van Cleef

Well-known member
Jun 17, 2023
909
Watching from my sick bed today, I was heartened to see Joel at his very best in full HD wide screenery. I counted three trademark flop/ball grab combos. An off the ball barge, beautifully timed to connect 2 microseconds after the ref had blown for something else. And the Sky cameras picked up a touching cameo of a bit of off the ball housery at the penalty. Top work as always.
 


pigmanovich

Good Old Sausage by the Sea
Mar 16, 2024
2,181
London
Watching from my sick bed today, I was heartened to see Joel at his very best in full HD wide screenery. I counted three trademark flop/ball grab combos. An off the ball barge, beautifully timed to connect 2 microseconds after the ref had blown for something else. And the Sky cameras picked up a touching cameo of a bit of off the ball housery at the penalty. Top work as always.
Apparently he was kicked by Jorginho, thought he had pulled Jorginho’s shirt when it was highlighted at the time.
 
















aolstudios

Well-known member
Nov 30, 2011
5,561
brighton
Was great today , doesn’t take any crap from anyone, just the Type of player the team needs , could do with a couple more , we are a bit soft
Exactly that. Since Saints we've been basically a bunch of talented, sensitive kids. I honestly believe right now JV is the most important player in the team.
Powderpuff without him, calmly nasty with. Joel sets the tone
 












Springal

Well-known member
Feb 12, 2005
25,021
GOSBTS
Defensively great and we need that experience, but so painful going forwards with him which is a shame
 








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