- Oct 17, 2008
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I love RDZ. No criticism from me. Probably ever.
JPvH dealy with Haaland at the end of last season ok, so strange he wasnt playing at the weekend.rest of it is spot on though. we cannot deal with big physical strikers. but this isn’t a new thing. toney, mitrovic and kane have given us issues for years. it’s a personnel issue i feel, and a weakness of dunk and webster’s. that’s not me calling them bad, i just think we need to partner one with a fast, physical centre back. maybe igor is that player, still think we could do with a duel-heavy, fast and strong right back, however.
I think Milner's position/heatmap this season is easily explainable: we've been on the attack for most of the season, and spent Saturday pretty much camped in the opposition's final third. Last season, teams came at us more, so there was more to and fro to most of the games.An issue, expertly exploited by Moyes, is that Milner is far further upfield than Veltman last season. Here are heat maps for Veltman last season, Milner this. It’s obvious to the eye in the stadium. Veltman often seems to be positioned near the home dugout when we play N to S. Milner obviously would have less pace to recover.
We don’t know the reason why. RDZ instructions to Milner, RDZ has upped the risk element to balance losing a world class centre midfield, savvy opposition coaches copying the Dyche tactics board of suckering us in for the counter, players not adhering to instructions?
I’m not doom n gloom about the season. My only tactical/personnel aspiration is for Veltman or another career prime RB to start and that we find a quality 6 to start games.
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It really isn't strange. JPvH had one good game (yet Haaland still managed to score), and hasn't been quite so good in the other games that he's started. I'm glad RDZ doesn't base his analysis of our CBs purely on one gam.eJPvH dealy with Haaland at the end of last season ok, so strange he wasnt playing at the weekend.
Yep, RDZ out. Random different NSC poster every game until the end of the season
I think Milner's position/heatmap this season is easily explainable: we've been on the attack for most of the season, and spent Saturday pretty much camped in the opposition's final third. Last season, teams came at us more, so there was more to and fro to most of the games.
Well said, row Z! Sorry RDZ it's not always best to keep possession (row Z !!)Criticism? Absolutely not. As others have said, risk / reward etc.
It is fantastic how he has these players doing things they would never have dreamt of before. Clearly, they are learning from him.
Are there things he can learn? Yes.
I think he needs to develop some pragmatism. He needs to let players know that, maybe one time in 1,000 rowZ is necessary. Webster should have taken that option IMO, If teams think we are always going to opt for the fanny about option, then we become predictable.
Credit where it is due, Moyes did his homework and also purchased our Kryptonite (JWP).
I think he needs to allow players to adapt on the pitch more. There will be the odd occasion when being more direct can pay off, yesterday was an example.
I think we're going to struggle against certain teams who do that for two reasons:Interesting point.
If most PL and EL opponents to us from now on stay in shape deep, to their hearts content allowing Dunk, the goalie and other CB to pass amongst themselves, RDZ will require a very different Plan B.
Dyche of all coaches stumbled across a pretty obvious solution.
Quite -RDZ can only make do with what he has at his disposal.
There’s no chance any credible manager would ‘make a point’ by losing a game ever. Especially not one at a club like ours. Sensationalist comment for me that.I wondered if he was making a point before the transfer window closes.
I feel immensely proud that WHU bought JWP just so they could beat us .Criticism? Absolutely not. As others have said, risk / reward etc.
It is fantastic how he has these players doing things they would never have dreamt of before. Clearly, they are learning from him.
Are there things he can learn? Yes.
I think he needs to develop some pragmatism. He needs to let players know that, maybe one time in 1,000 rowZ is necessary. Webster should have taken that option IMO, If teams think we are always going to opt for the fanny about option, then we become predictable.
Credit where it is due, Moyes did his homework and also purchased our Kryptonite (JWP).
I think he needs to allow players to adapt on the pitch more. There will be the odd occasion when being more direct can pay off, yesterday was an example.
I think we're going to struggle against certain teams who do that for two reasons:
1, we're not so good at breaking through a deep block
2, we don't have the pace in defence to nullify the quality and speed that the likes of West Ham have up front. Pervis has got it, but he plays even higher up the field and has more licence than whoever is RB. Dunk is slow, ditto Veltman and Milner. Webster's quick but not lightning. Lamptey is rapid but isn't as good on the ball as the other RB options. Haven't seen Igor nor enough of JPvH to comment on their pace and positioning.
There’s no chance any credible manager would ‘make a point’ by losing a game ever. Especially not one at a club like ours. Sensationalist comment for me that.
and would be tantamount to breach of contract I suspect!There’s no chance any credible manager would ‘make a point’ by losing a game ever. Especially not one at a club like ours. Sensationalist comment for me that.
Liverpool have just got the quality to break the block. Set pieces is one, the crossing ability of Robertson another, and the range of passing from TAA yet another. They also play at such intensity, at a level that we haven't reached as yet.Liverpool faced a low block for several seasons, crazy OPTA stats in the favour, but so many draws. Literally 10 man defences. In the end they beat it, I must admit I can’t remember exactly how. But one part of it was becoming a real threat at set pieces. Robertson and TAA (total cost £10m) have insane assist stats, the CB’s chip with a few goals.
Assuming that most PL managers will now leave Dunk & mates upfield, whilst they wait upfield in two banks of 5, cigars out, it’ll be interesting to see what RDZ has in mind.
Liverpool have just got the quality to break the block. Set pieces is one, the crossing ability of Robertson another, and the range of passing from TAA yet another. They also play at such intensity, at a level that we haven't reached as yet.
I'm not blaming the players, RDZ, recruitment, etc. You're aware of the financial differences more than I am, and Klopp has managed to make them over-achieve from that.