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Next Season



Sep 14, 2006
472
Philadelphia
Based upon where this all may end up, it looks like next season is shaping up well for us. Why?

Norwich and Leeds will be up, and hopefully Charlton. As much as I'd like it otherwise, I think CP stay up and Scunny, Plymouth and P"boro come down.

Rochdale, Notts Co, Bournemouth and maybe Rotherham come up.

If that plays itself out, with the exception of Southamption, we're looking at the usual suspects in terms of our historical rivals. None with any significant resource advantage and I would argue the majority with resource deficit.

Should we be worried about Millwall, Swindon, Huddersfield, Bristol Rovers, Colchester? Did any of them look very special against us recently?

Quite frankly, if this all aligns, next year we have no excuse not to push very hard for automatic promotion with playoffs the least we should expect.

Four key new additions to the team we've got now, Gus with a stable team and 9 months under his belt, I don't think it is too much to expect. We've underperformed for two years. 2011/12 is our time.
 




mcshane in the 79th

New member
Nov 4, 2005
10,485
The thing that worries me is a huge turnover of players. Up to 14 could be on their way out (expired loans, players out contract or simply released) which means a lot of new signings needed. This could well lead to us needing the dreaded "time to gel"
 


dougdeep

New member
May 9, 2004
37,732
SUNNY SEAFORD
If we can purchase 3 or 4 good players then I think we stand a good chance of promotion.
 


Taybha

Whalewhine
Oct 8, 2008
27,657
Uwantsumorwat
Keeping Painter and Calderon will be top priority next season imo add a proven goalscorer and the squad we have currently should do rather well on recent showings.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
72,276
I think this time the pre-season games need to be treated a lot more seriously. In the past couple of seasons we've been outplayed by the likes of Crawley, and everybody's written it off as a mere training exercise that doesn't count for much. Then the new season starts, and we find out that many of the new signings are actually quite woeful.
 




Sep 14, 2006
472
Philadelphia
(New Keeper) fighting PB and FDM for #1

Calderon and Painter to stay. El-Abd and McNulty as cover. Virgo and Elphick as starting CBs. (Tunni as cover)

Bennett, Dicker, Crofts, Navarro, Lua Lua (Season long loan) plus (New Midfielder)

(New Striker), Murray, Holroyd, Dickinson (Yes I want him back), Forster

Goodbye Carole, Hawk, Hart, Davies, Smith, Cox, Wright
 




mcshane in the 79th

New member
Nov 4, 2005
10,485
Wouldn't be surprised if we didn't see the following next season:

Kuipers
Cox
Jake Wright
Dickinson
Lua Lua
Painter
Craig Davies
Hoyte
Hawkins
Hart
Whing
Tunnicliffe
Arismendi
Carole

And possibly even Jimmy Mac.

I just don't know how Gus feels about them and especially the players out on loan
 




dougdeep

New member
May 9, 2004
37,732
SUNNY SEAFORD
We'll have to see the FDM as it's his testimonial, shirley.
 


FLOG GNAW

Banned
Sep 21, 2009
1,008
Under Your Skin.
I think the relegation zones look sorted. I can't see any of the bottom 4 getting out of it. Norwich are up and Leeds are getting wins again so they will go up aswell. I can't see Charlton winning the Play-offs and IMO Millwall will go up if they can keep thier form up.

Petobourgh and Plymouth are down. I hate to say it but I think Palace will survive with Scunthorpe taking the last place.

League 2 is closer but Rochdale are up. Notts County will also be promoted but will probably have to sell Hughes and Schmeichel. I think Rotherham will get the last Automatic place with Chesterfield winning the play-offs.

This leaves our league looking like

Scunthorpe
Plymouth
Petobourgh
Charlton
Swindon
Colchester
Huddersfield
MK Dons
Bristol Rovers
Southampton
Carlisle
Walsall
Yeovil
Brighton
Brentford
Leyton Orient
Oldham
Hartlepool
Gillingham
Tranmere
Rochdale
Notts County
Rotherham
Chesterfield

Looking at the current teams Charlton, Huddersfield and Scunthorpe all have strong sides but none as strong as Southampton who SHOULD walk this division next year. Swindon will be up there and Plymouth will be hard to beat at Homes park. M.K Dons will be in or around the play-offs as will Colchester. If we can get in Painter, LuaLua and Calderon in along with a goalscorer (Pitman, Zola or Benson from League 2 or someone from the Championship.) then i can't see why we can't push on for at least a play-off place.
 


Foolg

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Apr 23, 2007
5,024
I think the relegation zones look sorted. I can't see any of the bottom 4 getting out of it. Norwich are up and Leeds are getting wins again so they will go up aswell. I can't see Charlton winning the Play-offs and IMO Millwall will go up if they can keep thier form up.

Petobourgh and Plymouth are down. I hate to say it but I think Palace will survive with Scunthorpe taking the last place.

League 2 is closer but Rochdale are up. Notts County will also be promoted but will probably have to sell Hughes and Schmeichel. I think Rotherham will get the last Automatic place with Chesterfield winning the play-offs.

This leaves our league looking like

Scunthorpe
Plymouth
Petobourgh
Charlton
Swindon
Colchester
Huddersfield
MK Dons
Bristol Rovers
Southampton
Carlisle
Walsall
Yeovil
Brighton
Brentford
Leyton Orient
Oldham
Hartlepool
Gillingham
Tranmere
Rochdale
Notts County
Rotherham
Chesterfield

Looking at the current teams Charlton, Huddersfield and Scunthorpe all have strong sides but none as strong as Southampton who SHOULD walk this division next year. Swindon will be up there and Plymouth will be hard to beat at Homes park. M.K Dons will be in or around the play-offs as will Colchester. If we can get in Painter, LuaLua and Calderon in along with a goalscorer (Pitman, Zola or Benson from League 2 or someone from the Championship.) then i can't see why we can't push on for at least a play-off place.

Pretty much agree with all of that, except i think that if Posh can keep hold of the likes of Mackail-Smith, Mclean, Joe Lewis (although Boyd will surely leave) then they could be a real threat again. I cant see Scunthorpe holding onto hooper, wouldnt be suprised if he left to the Championship, possibly even Leeds or Norwich, but they'll still be somewhere in the top 8 im sure.
Only bit i disagree with is the strikers you suggested, Zola at this level was poor, and Bensons now past 30. If we have the money suggested, one expensive striker is a must, someone like Simeone Jackson perhaps (many Gills fans now want him to leave to raise funds) or Billy Paynter?
 




FLOG GNAW

Banned
Sep 21, 2009
1,008
Under Your Skin.
Pretty much agree with all of that, except i think that if Posh can keep hold of the likes of Mackail-Smith, Mclean, Joe Lewis (although Boyd will surely leave) then they could be a real threat again. I cant see Scunthorpe holding onto hooper, wouldnt be suprised if he left to the Championship, possibly even Leeds or Norwich, but they'll still be somewhere in the top 8 im sure.
Only bit i disagree with is the strikers you suggested, Zola at this level was poor, and Bensons now past 30. If we have the money suggested, one expensive striker is a must, someone like Simeone Jackson perhaps (many Gills fans now want him to leave to raise funds) or Billy Paynter?

On the whole striker front I think it could be worth a go at trying to swap Dicko for Mackail-Smith. Gannon thinks Diko is the better of the two strikers and Mackail-Smith would work well with Murray IMO.

Long shot I know but then if someone told me this time last year that Brighton would would have LuaLua playing under Poyet this season I would of thought they were mad. :shrug:
 


Seaford Seagull

BHAFC 'til I die
Mar 4, 2005
279
Sussex (By the sea)
On the whole striker front I think it could be worth a go at trying to swap Dicko for Mackail-Smith. Gannon thinks Diko is the better of the two strikers and Mackail-Smith would work well with Murray IMO.

Long shot I know but then if someone told me this time last year that Brighton would would have LuaLua playing under Poyet this season I would of thought they were mad. :shrug:

Worth a try. I don't think Dickinson will want to come back and the Murray / Dickinson combination hasn't really had a great deal of success.
 


SW17

New member
Jan 2, 2007
177
South London
Be us, saints, palace, charlton and millwall all up there next season if the latter 2 stay down. If Bournemouth come up they will be the whipping horse
 




Foolg

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Apr 23, 2007
5,024
Be us, saints, palace, charlton and millwall all up there next season if the latter 2 stay down. If Bournemouth come up they will be the whipping horse

Huddersfield im sure will be up there too, have spent a lot of money and im guessing they may have some more to spend next season. Scunthorpe have a good squad, with Hooper they'll be a real threat if he stays, and as before im sure Peterborough under Gannon will be in with a shout. Bournemouth will do ok i think, Pitmann up top and a couple of players we've looked at, if any of them struggle it will be Rochdale i think.
 


Foolg

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Apr 23, 2007
5,024
On the whole striker front I think it could be worth a go at trying to swap Dicko for Mackail-Smith. Gannon thinks Diko is the better of the two strikers and Mackail-Smith would work well with Murray IMO.

Long shot I know but then if someone told me this time last year that Brighton would would have LuaLua playing under Poyet this season I would of thought they were mad. :shrug:

Well worth a try, im sure Mackail-Smith was attracting Championship interest in January, but even if we have to add a fair bit of money as well as Dickinson into the deal, he's proved he can hack it at this level. I think someone like him to get 20+ goals alongside Murray would make the difference.
 


Husty

Mooderator
Oct 18, 2008
11,998
keep what we have in calderon painter and brezovan, get an attacking midfielder 15+ goals a season), a new striker (20+ goals a season ) and a left winger (perhaps LuaLua)

Bringing in those extra goals will make the difference, we have proved we can defend against the best but have struggled to pick up the goals (capitalise on opportunities) that could have won us some of our recent games (leyton orient, leeds, swindow, millwall, colchester)
 


jordanseagull

Well-known member
Feb 11, 2009
4,151
keep what we have in calderon painter and brezovan, get an attacking midfielder 15+ goals a season), a new striker (20+ goals a season ) and a left winger (perhaps LuaLua)

Bringing in those extra goals will make the difference, we have proved we can defend against the best but have struggled to pick up the goals (capitalise on opportunities) that could have won us some of our recent games (leyton orient, leeds, swindow, millwall, colchester)

Agree.

Although a 15 goal midfielder?
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
72,276
Some people have short memories. This was supposed to be the season where we went up, remember. All that bullshit talk about our Twenty Goals A Season strikers. Sadly, many other clubs wanted it more.
 




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