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[Albion] New fan zone - "The Terrace"







PeterT

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Apr 21, 2017
2,425
Hove
Build a massive park and ride on the edge of Lewes. They moaned and groaned about how the stadium would affect them, at least this way they can say they were right all along and who doesn’t want to be proved right? Win win.
 


trueblue

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Jul 5, 2003
11,083
Hove
Best option would be making the left hand lane a bus lane.
Would speed up the P&R buses as well as ensuring that no cars stopped there
I assume we’re talking about the A27 slip road? If so, totally agree. Buses should be able to shoot up the left side and be given priority to turn right at the top. Would surely speed things up massively and make buses by far the most attractive option - which in itself should help decrease congestion.
 


trueblue

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Jul 5, 2003
11,083
Hove
The club deserve a lot of credit for this. They have seen the issues surrounding public transport and that anything that helps stagger the getaway and arrival is a good move. The Terrace looks really impressive and quite ground-breaking to me, and I bet we see other clubs copy this idea. The moving of Dicks Bar into there is also very welcome as the last one was little more than an airport lounge. I can't wait to try it out.
It’s weird then that they started kicking people out of the WSU as quickly as possible. We used to hang around for ages but once it became constant conflict with arsey stewards trying to shut things and move people on we gave up. Might have improved again by now but we no longer bother waiting.
 


Hometownglory

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Jan 12, 2014
808
Bring back the bendy buses. Using coaches as part of a P&R shuttle is beyond annoying. Low capacity and it takes a long time to load people.

Need a bus shuttle service from The Level or somewhere slightly central, to a drop off/pick up point somewhere near the stadium such as the Bridge Car park. Its clear we need to try and take as much demand off the trains as possible.
 
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trueblue

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Jul 5, 2003
11,083
Hove
Bring back the bendy buses. Using coaches as part of a P&R shuttle is beyond annoying. Low capacity and it takes long to load people.

Need a bus shuttle service from The Level or somewhere close. Try and take as much demand off the trains as possible.
That’s a good point. Loads of shuttle buses to and from The Level would be a game changer as that opens up so many other transport options and, crucially, it’s a quick round trip. I suppose the issues are getting enough buses and who will pay.
 








Hometownglory

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Jan 12, 2014
808
That’s a good point. Loads of shuttle buses to and from The Level would be a game changer as that opens up so many other transport options and, crucially, it’s a quick round trip. I suppose the issues are getting enough buses and who will pay.
If it meant a slightly higher ticket price and a vastly improved and efficient post match travel service, I'm sure most would agree. Especially if it meant fans could stay to the final whistle without adding an hour onto their journey home.
 


BrightonCottager

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Sep 30, 2013
2,938
Brighton
Bring back the bendy buses. Using coaches as part of a P&R shuttle is beyond annoying. Low capacity and it takes a long time to load people.

Need a bus shuttle service from The Level or somewhere slightly central, to a drop off/pick up point somewhere near the stadium such as the Bridge Car park. Its clear we need to try and take as much demand off the trains as possible.
Where on The Level? Can't imagine the police / highways authority would be too enamoured with disrupting the A270 and A23 flows with parked buses. The 2.5 alternatives that spring to mind are
1) back of the station used for rail replacement services
2) Pool Valley coach station
2.5) around the bottom of the Steine.
 


Hometownglory

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Jan 12, 2014
808
Where on The Level? Can't imagine the police / highways authority would be too enamoured with disrupting the A270 and A23 flows with parked buses. The 2.5 alternatives that spring to mind are
1) back of the station used for rail replacement services
2) Pool Valley coach station
2.5) around the bottom of the Steine.
The Level was just an quick example, but I agree there are probably better locations.
 




trueblue

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Jul 5, 2003
11,083
Hove
The Level was just an quick example, but I agree there are probably better locations.
I'd say the Level area is perfect, St Peter's Church at a push. Don't see why it would block the A27 as someone suggested but there might need to be a stewarded queue. It wouldn't be loads of buses parked or arriving at once, just a steady flow. Once you go further into town, it makes the round trip longer and defeats the object. I think it would need to be an Express service... non-stop to the Level, straight back. Just get as many people away and closer to alternative transport as possible. The downfall of the park and rides is that if you miss the first wave of buses, it's at least half an hour guaranteed queuing before they're back.
 


East Staffs Gull

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Jan 16, 2004
1,438
Birmingham and Austria
Is there any way that Hove station and/or Preston Park station could be better utilised to assist traingoers travelling from west of Brighton, by enabling them to use trains on the Littlehampton to Victoria line?
 


Right Back

Marseille was magic
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Sep 21, 2017
409
Brighton
The club are brilliant in pretty much every area. So much vision, planning and investment. Getting fans home has been neglected and the fan zone will help but not so much for evening games.
They are looking at lots of ways to improve the atmosphere but travel seems to be a blind spot. All the other plans won’t work if the ground is half empty on 80 mins. I wish Paul Barber would walk from my seat and then wait for The Park and Ride. I’m not sure he understands what it is like to queue for the park and ride or for the station.

I know he thinks it is same at other grounds around the country but it isn’t. I do lots of away games. Away fans in the Mill Road queue can’t believe we do it every week. There was more park and ride when we moved into the stadium with much smaller crowds.

Getting to the Amex is not a problem as it is staggered but getting away at the end of a game needs proper planning, investment and the will to make it better.

If we don’t we will have FA cup games at a brilliant price that don’t come close to selling out.
If it was properly reviewed there could be lots of improvements which might not need more money.
 




PILTDOWN MAN

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Sep 15, 2004
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Hurst Green
The club are brilliant in pretty much every area. So much vision, planning and investment. Getting fans home has been neglected and the fan zone will help but not so much for evening games.
They are looking at lots of ways to improve the atmosphere but travel seems to be a blind spot. All the other plans won’t work if the ground is half empty on 80 mins. I wish Paul Barber would walk from my seat and then wait for The Park and Ride. I’m not sure he understands what it is like to queue for the park and ride or for the station.

I know he thinks it is same at other grounds around the country but it isn’t. I do lots of away games. Away fans in the Mill Road queue can’t believe we do it every week. There was more park and ride when we moved into the stadium with much smaller crowds.

Getting to the Amex is not a problem as it is staggered but getting away at the end of a game needs proper planning, investment and the will to make it better.

If we don’t we will have FA cup games at a brilliant price that don’t come close to selling out.
If it was properly reviewed there could be lots of improvements which might not need more money.
What planning would do it? 32000 leaving a stadium at the same time causes issues wherever the ground is. You say it's not the same elsewhere. Few have stations near to the ground. The walk to stations whether underground in London or overground helps to move people away. On reaching these stations often there's still a long wait. Parking at these grounds may be larger in number but often I've sat not moving for ages.
 


portlock seagull

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Jul 28, 2003
18,177
What planning would do it? 32000 leaving a stadium at the same time causes issues wherever the ground is. You say it's not the same elsewhere. Few have stations near to the ground. The walk to stations whether underground in London or overground helps to move people away. On reaching these stations often there's still a long wait. Parking at these grounds may be larger in number but often I've sat not moving for ages.
Better planning would improve things, but not eliminate problems. That was the point.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
73,002
The club are brilliant in pretty much every area. So much vision, planning and investment. Getting fans home has been neglected and the fan zone will help but not so much for evening games.
They are looking at lots of ways to improve the atmosphere but travel seems to be a blind spot. All the other plans won’t work if the ground is half empty on 80 mins. I wish Paul Barber would walk from my seat and then wait for The Park and Ride. I’m not sure he understands what it is like to queue for the park and ride or for the station.

I know he thinks it is same at other grounds around the country but it isn’t. I do lots of away games. Away fans in the Mill Road queue can’t believe we do it every week. There was more park and ride when we moved into the stadium with much smaller crowds.

Getting to the Amex is not a problem as it is staggered but getting away at the end of a game needs proper planning, investment and the will to make it better.

If we don’t we will have FA cup games at a brilliant price that don’t come close to selling out.
If it was properly reviewed there could be lots of improvements which might not need more money.
The transport element was a necessary component of the planning application. Nowadays, of course, it's just written off as 'a historical requirement' :rolleyes:
 


Right Back

Marseille was magic
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Sep 21, 2017
409
Brighton
What planning would do it? 32000 leaving a stadium at the same time causes issues wherever the ground is. You say it's not the same elsewhere. Few have stations near to the ground. The walk to stations whether underground in London or overground helps to move people away. On reaching these stations often there's still a long wait. Parking at these grounds may be larger in number but often I've sat not moving for ages.
I agree but even small differences can help. It doesn’t mean the club should just give up and think it is impossible. They might not be able to improve the trains. Could they improve the park and ride so less use the train. I think they could if they really wanted to.
 




Oh_aye

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Jul 8, 2022
2,305
Bring back the bendy buses. Using coaches as part of a P&R shuttle is beyond annoying. Low capacity and it takes a long time to load people.

Need a bus shuttle service from The Level or somewhere slightly central, to a drop off/pick up point somewhere near the stadium such as the Bridge Car park. Its clear we need to try and take as much demand off the trains as possible.
This is a good idea. Like the shuttle buses at airports
 




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