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New £55 million investment into The Amex?



Notters

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Oct 20, 2003
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Guiseley
Wouldn't surprise me if it was a company like De Vere interested in running it. They run the newly built hotel at my university (Nottingham), which I know has been incredibly successful and busy, and those who know Nottingham know that it takes longer to get to the centre from the University campus than it would do to get to the centre of Brighton from the Amex on the train...

There's a hotel at the uni? Whereabouts have they stuck that?!

It won't take ling into town when the tram's finished to be fair.
 






El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
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Jul 5, 2003
40,000
Pattknull med Haksprut
i'd say the number of times "loan" pops up in that list shows a lack of "investment", a fair bit of making do.

We have spent more in the last two years on transfer fees than in the previous 110, and then there is the investment of £150 million in the infrastructure.
 








beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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We have spent more in the last two years on transfer fees than in the previous 110, and then there is the investment of £150 million in the infrastructure.

firstly, thats hardly a high bar to reach, and secondly the reference was to investmet in the playing side. yes we have spent money and i dont think spending was the problem last season. just highlighting that the list of signings doesn't equate to a massive investment in the playing squad.
 


Not Andy Naylor

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Dec 12, 2007
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Seven Dials
As a kid I heard older relatives say that Brighton didnt want promotion because we couldnt afford it. No I see that we will make the top flight and this time be ready, more than ready in that the TV revenue will be just one element to keep the club successful with the training ground, `Amex ect the others. This club is going places and is getting ready not just for top flight football but top half top flight football. Maybe we will never surpass the Charity Shield of 1910 but we will be a top flight top half club very soon.

Just one massively important element ...
 


Superphil

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Jul 7, 2003
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In a pile of football shirts
Just one massively important element ...

Exactly, I wonder what the breakdown of revenue is for a club like us in the Premier League. Would the TV/Sky money be more than half?
 




drew

Drew
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Oct 3, 2006
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Burgess Hill
Yeah, yeah, but what has Tony Bloom ever done for US ?

REG: All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?

Almost as much as the romans. The exception being the aqueduct!

Sanitation - compare the Amex facilities to those at the Goldstone and Withdean
Medicine - defibrillators everywhere already saving lives
Education - AITC
Wine - Available in the concessions
Public order - masses of stewards
Irrigation - plumbing for the Amex
Roads - sustainable transport system
Fresh Water - Alas no aqueduct but the mains comes into the Amex somehwhere!
Public Health - We don't get wet when it rains (well most of us don't).
 








El Presidente

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Exactly, I wonder what the breakdown of revenue is for a club like us in the Premier League. Would the TV/Sky money be more than half?

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El Presidente

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just highlighting that the list of signings doesn't equate to a massive investment in the playing squad.

But we have invested in the playing side. CMS £2.5m, Ulloa £2m, Buckley £1m, Hoskins £500k, KLL £500k, Wayne Bridge's wages £500k etc.
 


Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
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Living In a Box
But we have invested in the playing side. CMS £2.5m, Ulloa £2m, Buckley £1m, Hoskins £500k, KLL £500k, Wayne Bridge's wages £500k etc.

It is absolutely bonkers to suggest no investment has been made in the playing side if we did not we would be League 1
 




Dave the OAP

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Jul 5, 2003
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There's a hotel at the uni? Whereabouts have they stuck that?!

It won't take ling into town when the tram's finished to be fair.

Martin ling? Is he back from orient and why are the train companies discriminating against him?

We should be told


Barber out
 


Diego Napier

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Mar 27, 2010
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firstly, thats hardly a high bar to reach, and secondly the reference was to investmet in the playing side. yes we have spent money and i dont think spending was the problem last season. just highlighting that the list of signings doesn't equate to a massive investment in the playing squad.

Yes, and we know that's because the club want to comply with FFP.

Investment in capital assets will help secure the future of the club, the transient assets are the manager & players and, even ignoring FFP, arguably don't require massive investment on a year by year basis at the present time. It's a tricky balancing act but why splurge £2.85M on a player when you don't know if you'll be in the Premier league next year or in 3 years time? Loan signings can be easily disposed of when necessary; Harley, Vincelot, Dobbie, Hoskins etc point the way not to go.

I think the last 2 years have been a considerable learning exercise for TB (and us) and the cloth is now being cut to suit a markedly different fashion.
 


If anyone wants to see the details of the proposals that have been submitted to the City Council, they are here:-

http://present.brighton-hove.gov.uk/Published/C00000689/M00004686/AI00036438/$Falmer%20Released%20Land%20Site%20Adjacent%20to%20Community%20Stadium_v3.docA.ps.pdf

This is a report, prepared by Council Officers, that will be considered by the Council's Policy & Resources Committee at its meeting next Thursday (17 October).

The Council Officers' recommendations are:-

1. That Policy & Resources Committee authorise the Executive Director Environment Development & Housing, Executive Director Finance & Resources and Head of Legal Services to enter into negotiations with The Community Stadium Limited (“TCSL”) regarding the proposed redevelopment of the Falmer Released Land, as shown on the annexed plan, with TCSL and to agree that proposed Heads of Terms are brought back to this Committee for final approval.

2. That Policy & Resources Committee authorise the Executive Director Environment Development & Housing, Executive Director Finance & Resources and Head of Legal Services to enter into negotiations with TCSL regarding the proposed construction of a hotel on the land adjacent to the Community Stadium shown on the annexed plan and to agree that proposed Heads of Terms are brought back to this Committee for final approval.


It's worth noting that the Council haven't yet ruled out the option of inviting other developers to bring forward alternative proposals for the future use of The Bridge Car Park / Former Falmer School ("FRL") site, if this could generate more revenue for the Council. A negotiated deal with the football club ("TCSL") isn't the only option on the table - although it's certainly a preferred option:-

"Disposal of the FRL to TCSL would provide a focused approach that may offer a quicker route to redevelopment, rather than seeking a preferred developer through a tender process. However, whilst TCSL may be seeking freehold ownership of the site, it is recommended that in negotiations with TCSL, the council explore all options with them, including disposal and a Joint Venture vehicle where the council retains an investment stake and revenue stream. It is therefore, recommended that the council enter into negotiations with TCSL for Heads of Terms for the redevelopment of the FRL".
 
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symyjym

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Nov 2, 2009
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Brighton / Hove actually
If anyone wants to see the details of the proposals that have been submitted to the City Council, they are here:-

http://present.brighton-hove.gov.uk/Published/C00000689/M00004686/AI00036438/$Falmer%20Released%20Land%20Site%20Adjacent%20to%20Community%20Stadium_v3.docA.ps.pdf

This is a report, prepared by Council Officers, that will be considered by the Council's Policy & Resources Committee at its meeting next Thursday (17 October).

The Council Officers' recommendations are:-

1. That Policy & Resources Committee authorise the Executive Director Environment Development & Housing, Executive Director Finance & Resources and Head of Legal Services to enter into negotiations with The Community Stadium Limited (“TCSL”) regarding the proposed redevelopment of the Falmer Released Land, as shown on the annexed plan, with TCSL and to agree that proposed Heads of Terms are brought back to this Committee for final approval.

2. That Policy & Resources Committee authorise the Executive Director Environment Development & Housing, Executive Director Finance & Resources and Head of Legal Services to enter into negotiations with TCSL regarding the proposed construction of a hotel on the land adjacent to the Community Stadium shown on the annexed plan and to agree that proposed Heads of Terms are brought back to this Committee for final approval.


It's worth noting that the Council haven't yet ruled out the option of inviting other developers to bring forward alternative proposals for the future use of The Bridge Car Park / Former Falmer School ("FRL") site, if this could generate more revenue for the Council. A negotiated deal with the football club ("TCSL") isn't the only option on the table - although it's certainly a preferred option:-

"Disposal of the FRL to TCSL would provide a focused approach that may offer a quicker route to redevelopment, rather than seeking a preferred developer through a tender process. However, whilst TCSL may be seeking freehold ownership of the site, it is recommended that in negotiations with TCSL, the council explore all options with them, including disposal and a Joint Venture vehicle where the council retains an investment stake and revenue stream. It is therefore, recommended that the council enter into negotiations with TCSL for Heads of Terms for the redevelopment of the FRL".

Thanks for the link.

I presume that it is really important to get the hotel built beofre the Rugby 2015 World Cup?

The council are so useless with making the correct decisions, they always make sure it's a tiresome drawn out process to avoid making a decision. By the time they include the policies within a project, the project ends up being an impossible financial mess. Just like the i360, the King Alfred Gehry project, Black Rock ice rink and going back further the West Pier. All of these failures are council motivated.
 


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