Nelson Mandela ill

[Tricky Dicky]

At 93 and ill in hospital, is time runnng out for mandiba, this icon of our times ?

 

[Superphil]

BBC breakfast news show was desparate for him to be pronounced dead while they were on air, they almost seemed disappointed when they had to report that he was in good spirits just before they went off air.

 

[Mendoza]

get well soon

 

[brunswick]

if you take a look at the person he was before prison (or more the person he says he was in his book) and the person he was once being freed and elected it simply makes no sense at all how he turned from freedom fighter to robotic clone politician...

rumours are Nelson Mandela is a Knight of Malta. and was allowed to reach the position of power due to keeping quiet about the origin of AIDS and various other things that made sure the game was rigged.

oh, and his misses ordered lots of torture.....


icon of the times? not for me...

 

[Aseros]

He was a criminal, he gets more respect than he deserves.

 

[Everest]

Will Aaron Ramsey score tomorrow?

 

[Woodchip]

He was a criminal, he gets more respect than he deserves.

 

[Sussex]

He was a criminal, he gets more respect than he deserves.

Agree also don't forget the planting of bombs in shopping centers

 

[readingstockport]

Agree also don't forget the planting of bombs in shopping centers

Which of course he didn't do. But don't let simple facts get in the way of your right wing hatred of a true freedom fighter who brought down a right wing racist regime.

and brunswick, ffs stop with the knights of malta shite before you begin to start to sound like that raving moron colinz.

 

[Beach Hut]

He was a criminal, he gets more respect than he deserves.

Beggars belief a comment like that but presumably fishing for attention

 

[Buzzer]

if you take a look at the person he was before prison (or more the person he says he was in his book) and the person he was once being freed and elected it simply makes no sense at all how he turned from freedom fighter to robotic clone politician...

rumours are Nelson Mandela is a Knight of Malta. and was allowed to reach the position of power due to keeping quiet about the origin of AIDS and various other things that made sure the game was rigged.

oh, and his misses ordered lots of torture.....


icon of the times? not for me...

I lived in South Africa when he was elected. He did all the right things to make S Africa a stable country and he also split with his murderous missus. He could have carried a big f*** off grudge but chose peace and reconciliation instead. I think he's a nice bloke.

 

[aolstudios]

Which of course he didn't do. But don't let simple facts get in the way of your right wing hatred of a true freedom fighter who brought down a right wing racist regime.

and brunswick, ffs stop with the knights of malta shite before you begin to start to sound like that raving moron colinz.

all of this :guitar:

 

[sydney]

Beggars belief a comment like that but presumably fishing for attention

showing your ignorance there old man ...he was actually a terrorist , involved in the manufacture and planting of bombs through-out south africa .......by the time he got out of nick he was a mellowed and broken ,old man ........he is a lovely ,humble ,articulate human being now , back then he was a wrong'un......fact.

 

[aolstudios]

He was a criminal, he gets more respect than he deserves.

No more a criminal than the french resistance, libyan resistance fighters, syrian... oh, & the founders of the Iraeli state. Don't be dim

 

[KZNSeagull]

In 1993 - 1994, Nelson Mandela could have plunged South Africa into civil war. He chose reconciliation. Irrespective of what he did or did not do prior to that, for this alone he should be respected and revered, imo.

For the record, he has never denied that the ANC and Umkhonto we Sizwe in particular, violated human rights. In fact, he was extremely critical of members of the ANC who tried to hide this fact from the Truth and Reconciliation Commission.

 

[Beach Hut]

showing your ignorance there old man ...he was actually a terrorist , involved in the manufacture and planting of bombs through-out south africa .......by the time he got out of nick he was a mellowed and broken ,old man ........he is a lovely ,humble ,articulate human being now , back then he was a wrong'un......fact.

He was fighting against a regime which was against coloured people as opposed to some splinter cell fighting for some shit state being freed.

No way should he be classed as a terrorist

 

[aolstudios]

showing your ignorance there old man ...he was actually a terrorist , involved in the manufacture and planting of bombs through-out south africa .......by the time he got out of nick he was a mellowed and broken ,old man ........he is a lovely ,humble ,articulate human being now , back then he was a wrong'un......fact.

Yeah right. A wrong un' like the french resistance, libyan resistance fighters, syrian resistance, founders of the Iraeli state. Oh and the British resistance, had the germans won the war

 

[Buzzer]

showing your ignorance there old man ...he was actually a terrorist , involved in the manufacture and planting of bombs through-out south africa .......by the time he got out of nick he was a mellowed and broken ,old man ........he is a lovely ,humble ,articulate human being now , back then he was a wrong'un......fact.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Anyway, whether or not he did what you say he served a bloody long time and then became a very excellent statesman. It's all good.

 

[sydney]

In 1993 - 1994, Nelson Mandela could have plunged South Africa into civil war. He chose reconciliation. Irrespective of what he did or did not do prior to that, for this alone he should be respected and revered, imo.

For the record, he has never denied that the ANC and Umkhonto we Sizwe in particular, violated human rights. In fact, he was extremely critical of members of the ANC who tried to hide this fact from the Truth and Reconciliation Commission.

i'll listen to you here bro'...... my wifes uncle , alec borraine sat on the TRC ........it was a f***ing circus ........unfortunately no good can come from some things , such a beautiful part of the world , so many issues , such a shame . good luck...!!!

 

[Buzzer]

In 1993 - 1994, Nelson Mandela could have plunged South Africa into civil war. He chose reconciliation. Irrespective of what he did or did not do prior to that, for this alone he should be respected and revered, imo.

For the record, he has never denied that the ANC and Umkhonto we Sizwe in particular, violated human rights. In fact, he was extremely critical of members of the ANC who tried to hide this fact from the Truth and Reconciliation Commission.

tis true. Him and Walter Sisulu were very honest in their admissions. Despite them being (once) socialists/communists I do admire them.