[Albion] Napoli interested in Billy Gilmour **Sold 30/08/24**

[um bongo molongo]

I just don’t think he has the athleticism we need in that position to recover the ball when sides against us win it and attack us. Something Caicedo and Bissouma were brilliant at. And he’s not progressive enough to be the ‘Mac Allister’ role. If the plan is Weiffer / Baleba / Yalcouye in the DM role and then to bring in a Mac Allister replacement (Gruda ideally), I’m happy with that

 

[MJsGhost]

You’d never have made it through the late 90s if you though our team was a useless piece of shit last season.

I was going to say similar.

When Jeff Minton stands out like Sócrates in a pub team, you know you have been served up a load of old shit

 

[Rookie]

Think he will do really well in Italy but I’d be disappointed if he does move. Still young and improving, will be Napoli’s gain

 

[Johnny RoastBeef]

They played in the same position. A position usually held by players that doesn't score a lot.

But that's my point, Billy shouldn't be playing there. He offered very little defensive cover and no offensive threat.

He takes the spot because we were short of better suited players.

It looks like the club are actively trying to resolve that, and yet some think he shouldn't be replaced.

 

[warmleyseagull]

0 goals and 1 assist in 38 matches tells you all you need to know. I don't get the love in; certainly no PL clubs queuing up to gazump Napoli.

 

[Han Solo]

0 goals and 1 assist in 38 matches tells you all you need to know. I don't get the love in; certainly no PL clubs queuing up to gazump Napoli.

If it tells you "all you need to know", does it mean we'll sell him for £115m like the previous player with 0 goals and 1 assist?

 

[Your Mum]

I’d be disappointed if he does

…your mum

 

[GT49er]

If it tells you "all you need to know", does it mean we'll sell him for £115m like the previous player with 0 goals and 1 assist?

£115M? Yeh, that'd do nicely!

Seriously, if Hurzeler doesn't want him, we'd still be seriously selling ourselves short if we just knocked the "1" off the front of that.

 

[Justice]

If it tells you "all you need to know", does it mean we'll sell him for £115m like the previous player with 0 goals and 1 assist?

MC scored one goal against Leicester possibly if I remember. Definitely scored though.

 

[brighton_tom]

0 goals and 1 assist in 38 matches tells you all you need to know. I don't get the love in; certainly no PL clubs queuing up to gazump Napoli.

Not a love in, but I do think some are ignoring what he does bring to our midfield & the role he played in RDZ’s tactics. This coming season he may not be relied upon as much as now we have potentially upgraded with Weiffer, there may be others joining, & a new manager with different tactics is in place. & so we may sell.. but it will not be because he’s suddenly rubbish. Last year he was a crucial cog in our style of play. The goals/assist stat is a pointless comment, it simply wasn’t his job within the tactics to be involved in the final 3rd.

 

[Justice]

Not a love in, but I do think some are ignoring what he does bring to our midfield & the role he played in RDZ’s tactics. This coming season he may not be relied upon as much as now we have potentially upgraded with Weiffer, there may be others joining, & a new manager with different tactics is in place. & so we may sell.. but it will not be because he’s suddenly rubbish. Last year he was a crucial cog in our style of play. The goals/assist stat is a pointless comment, it simply wasn’t his job within the tactics to be involved in the final 3rd.

When he was injured last season we were all over the place Baleba wasn’t ready and made a hatrick of assists to the opposition if not more.

 

[Han Solo]

I'm getting a seagull tattoo if he's sold for £12m or less. We'll get at least £25m, which is still cheaper than the £50m they should pay.

 

[Hugo Rune]

I'm getting a seagull tattoo if he's sold for £12m or less. We'll get at least £25m, which is still cheaper than the £50m they should pay.

 

[albionalex]

0 goals and 1 assist in 38 matches tells you all you need to know. I don't get the love in; certainly no PL clubs queuing up to gazump Napoli.

Can't tell if you're whooshing us or you don't know anything about football.

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

I'm getting a seagull tattoo if he's sold for £12m or less. We'll get at least £25m, which is still cheaper than the £50m they should pay.

Just to clarify:

If it's 12m plus add ons does that count as 12m or more? What if the add ons aren't reached?

Likewise what if it's say 10m plus an extra 3 with add ons?

It's best to sort these issues now so there's no ambiguity.

 

[blockhseagull]

MC scored one goal against Leicester possibly if I remember. Definitely scored though.

Scored a couple from memory… scored against Man Utd as well.

Also a couple of assists

 

[Braggfan]

Not a love in, but I do think some are ignoring what he does bring to our midfield & the role he played in RDZ’s tactics. This coming season he may not be relied upon as much as now we have potentially upgraded with Weiffer, there may be others joining, & a new manager with different tactics is in place. & so we may sell.. but it will not be because he’s suddenly rubbish. Last year he was a crucial cog in our style of play. The goals/assist stat is a pointless comment, it simply wasn’t his job within the tactics to be involved in the final 3rd.

It's interesting you say that about the role he played in RDZ's tactics because I actually struggled with a part of Gilmore's game last season , that I couldn't get my head around. And just to say, I don't dislike Gilmore, this is purely an observation.

In RDZ’s first season, there were tactical analysis videos doing the rounds about how the albion would play through the press. The fundamentals consisted of the defenders putting their foot on the ball and baiting the press. A midfielder would drop back which would cause an opposition player to follow him, and in turn this would create a hole in opposition lines. The defender with the ball could pass to the other center back who could then pass through the hole. Or the defender could pass to the midfielder who'd dropped back and they would quickly pass through the hole. Essentially, it was cornerstone movement of that first season and we did it every game repeatedly.
Largely it was Caicedo who did this job, but also Mac Allister.

When they both departed, I was interested to see how we'd cope. But I don't remember seeing Gilmore do this job once last season. In fairness I don't think anyone did. I was particularly struck by how we played more direct balls, particularly early last year. And that's what I struggled with. Was that a deliberate change in tactics from RDZ? Or was the change in the way we played dictated by the players available. Was Gilmore not doing that job because he didn't understand it, or had he been told not to? I genuinely can't decide and I think we could only know the answer if we know what RDZ told the players last year.

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

It's interesting you say that about the role he played in RDZ's tactics because I actually struggled with a part of Gilmore's game last season , that I couldn't get my head around. And just to say, I don't dislike Gilmore, this is purely an observation.

In RDZ’s first season, there were tactical analysis videos doing the rounds about how the albion would play through the press. The fundamentals consisted of the defenders putting their foot on the ball and baiting the press. A midfielder would drop back which would cause an opposition player to follow him, and in turn this would create a hole in opposition lines. The defender with the ball could pass to the other center back who could then pass through the hole. Or the defender could pass to the midfielder who'd dropped back and they would quickly pass through the hole. Essentially, it was cornerstone movement of that first season and we did it every game repeatedly.
Largely it was Caicedo who did this job, but also Mac Allister.

When they both departed, I was interested to see how we'd cope. But I don't remember seeing Gilmore do this job once last season. In fairness I don't think anyone did. I was particularly struck by how we played more direct balls, particularly early last year. And that's what I struggled with. Was that a deliberate change in tactics from RDZ? Or was the change in the way we played dictated by the players available. Was Gilmore not doing that job because he didn't understand it, or had he been told not to? I genuinely can't decide and I think we could only know the answer if we know what RDZ told the players last year.

I thought a lot of teams worked RdZ out in his second season. Attackers wouldn't be baited and cut off the angles for the simple pass to the free, deeplying midfielder.

That led to way more sideways passing and slower build ups.

 

[Braggfan]

I thought a lot of teams worked RdZ out in his second season. Attackers wouldn't be baited and cut off the angles for the simple pass to the free, deeplying midfielder.

That led to way more sideways passing and slower build ups.

I agree teams did work out how to play us last year. But we did this right from the off last year.
It was like we preempted them working us out. I remember watching the Vallecano friendly and being concerned that no one from our midfield was dropping back.

 

[Motogull]

If BG is open to a spell in southern Italy (and let's face it, who wouldn't be) and Napoli want him, why not loan him there for a year?