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Most disliked profession ?
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I'll join the list of people baffled by Questions' dislike of teachers; I think they're a profession highly regarded by most people.
It's interesting the number of people who say traffic wardens. Yet, last year, Tewkesbury was without any traffic wardens for a few weeks and drivers were begging the council to reinstate them. And now, there's somewhere down Devon/Dorset way also without traffic wardens (can't be arsed to Google to find where) and again, there are complaints about the lack of wardens.
I think that traffic wardens are like estate agents; everyone moans about them but given that people move around and sell houses, our society would find it hard to function without them. On the other hand, recruitment consultants ...
It's interesting the number of people who say traffic wardens. Yet, last year, Tewkesbury was without any traffic wardens for a few weeks and drivers were begging the council to reinstate them. And now, there's somewhere down Devon/Dorset way also without traffic wardens (can't be arsed to Google to find where) and again, there are complaints about the lack of wardens.
I think that traffic wardens are like estate agents; everyone moans about them but given that people move around and sell houses, our society would find it hard to function without them. On the other hand, recruitment consultants ...
There is a place for agencies, certainly. However, piss poor levels of service in some industries have become accepted as the norm. You have mentioned two such industries right here.
Storer68
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Estate agents
how can a "profession" that is crucial to most people's singhle biggest purchase still be unregulated......
how can a "profession" that is crucial to most people's singhle biggest purchase still be unregulated......
Tesco in Disguise
Where do we go from here?
the comment that they should be 'wiped from the face of the earth' was clearly flippant, yet i am just as entitled as you to offer my answer to questions's question. i am clearly not a stockbroker myself, nor do i know any. but that is not to say that i do not (as i'm sure most people do) have a basic idea of what this job entails. whether i have got their specific job title correct, you know i am referring to those who 'sell stocks and shares'.
you can argue, as i'm sure you would (however incorrectly) that they 'offer' society something insofar as they 'create wealth', which can lead to the trickle-down effect and benefit all those with whom they have any private business. this, however, would involve us covering old ground. we haven't resolved this in the past, and so i fear it would be futile to try again.
i know that large sections of the country's workforce labour in tertiary industry, but often there is a real societal benefit resulting from their efforts, be it legal advice, counselling, table-waiting, etc. those who 'buy low, sell high' cannot make such a claim. they are all smart people, i'm sure, which makes it all the more tragic that they haven't invested their time in something more helpful than making unjustifiably rich corporations even more wealthy, and provide no 'service' to those who need it more.
if you know otherwise, please eductate me as to how these people benefit the society from which they take so much.
or is that just not the point?
Tooting Gull
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Lokki 7
WSU
Blimey, I thought that I was arrogant.
You admit to knowing nothing about the profession whatsoever yet go on to lecture on the subject. These days, most stockbrokers have pretty shitty jobs which require little individual thought and pay about £18k a year so I’m guessing you don’t mean them.
The point of the financial system is to provide a service that people demand, and not to “buy low sell high”. In the same way that a production line in a car assembly plant produces cheaper cars, workers in the financial system improve liquidity and effeiciency thus producing cheaper financial goods and services for society. That may benefit a Russian oligarch, or more likely the average Joe who has a pension, or mortgage, or insurance for his car/house. Your sweeping generalisations are way off the mark, but you fail to see this as your knowledge on the subject seems to come from having watched Trading Places.
British Bulldog
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I would've thought one of the most disliked would be dentists, Evil people who charge us a fortune just to inflict pain on us.
Robot Chicken
Seriously?
Lawyers?
A US man has lost a $54m (£27m) claim against a South Korean dry-cleaning firm which lost a pair of his trousers.
Roy Pearson, a judge of administrative law, claimed that Custom Cleaners had violated the Consumer Protection Act.
Roy Pearson said his rights had been violated
By refusing to pay him $1,000 (£500) after losing his trousers, they failed to honour a pledge to provide "Satisfaction Guaranteed", he argued.
But a Washington judge dismissed the case, which drew international attention, awarding the cleaners costs.
Legal groups have said the case, which has dragged on for two years and involved thousands of hours of legal investigative work, has damaged the image of the US judicial system.
'American nightmare'
The National Labor Relations Board has called for Mr Pearson to be disbarred so that he can no longer serve as a judge.
His case began in 2005 when Mr Pearson took several suits to his local dry-cleaners in Washington to have some alterations made.
When he returned two days later, a pair of trousers was missing.
The South Korean family running the dry-cleaners, the Chungs, said they found the missing trousers a few days later and tried to return them but Mr Pearson insisted they were not his.
His multimillion dollar calculations for damages included the 1,400 hours he says he spent preparing the case.
According to the Washington Post, he also added the cost of hiring a car every weekend to enable him to drive to an alternative dry-cleaners for the next 10 years.
The Chungs' lawyer, Chris Manning, said that the protracted case had transformed the family's American dream into "the American nightmare", according to the AP. He said the family, who own three dry-cleaners in the Washington area, were considering returning to South Korea.
Parson Henry
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Mr Questions..how far did you retreat after lighting the blue touch paper?
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That was very nearly my personal best. A half century not out just after lunch.
Even Harveys who professes to ignore me had to jump in.
Actually its Tax men and Sky customer service personel I hate the most.
Bevendean Hillbilly
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Can't decide who I hate more..Hmm, Primary School Teachers or Crack Cocaine Dealers..eeny meeny miney mo...
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Parson Henry
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That was very nearly my personal best. A half century not out just after lunch.
Even Harveys who professes to ignore me had to jump in.
Actually its Tax men and Sky customer service personel I hate the most.
Thought so.
Now you're talking (as per my sig)
Tesco in Disguise
Where do we go from here?
lokki, i don't LECTURE about the subject at all. yes, i know very little about the day-to-day life of a stockbroker. i was merely asserting that people, whose life is dedicated to the manipulation of ethereal financial figures, make no real contribution to society. i don't think this is an outlandish claim. they build nothing, they create nothing, they help no-one. ok, they may help big business operate a bit smarter on the ftse, or some other rich prick make his portfolio a bit more attractive, but this does not justify their worth.
liquidity and efficiency are not (or at least should not be) the holy grails of industry. what happened to stability or happiness? it baffles me how people have lost sight of this. my beef is with city traders, not independent financial advisors. surely you can see the difference.
i respect your view, but please don't call me a sun reader again.
I am a teacher, I have worked in a secondary school and now at a college. Yes, we do get long holidays which is fantastic but the amount of work that we do in term time is huge so it actually evens itself out.
I do have to agree though that many teachers do nothing but moan. I do not go in my staff room because it is full of staff moaning about student behaviour and attitude etc - I think some of them need to realise that we are working with 16-19 year olds who have so much else going on in their lives and in many cases, quite a few personal problems.
I personally love my job, really love it and cannot understand why the moaning teachers do not move on and do something else. It is an incredibly rewarding thing to do and with 12 weeks holiday a year there is always a break around the next corner.
I do have to agree though that many teachers do nothing but moan. I do not go in my staff room because it is full of staff moaning about student behaviour and attitude etc - I think some of them need to realise that we are working with 16-19 year olds who have so much else going on in their lives and in many cases, quite a few personal problems.
I personally love my job, really love it and cannot understand why the moaning teachers do not move on and do something else. It is an incredibly rewarding thing to do and with 12 weeks holiday a year there is always a break around the next corner.
Parson Henry
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But stockbrokers conduct a ministerial routine task of accepting a clients instructions and executing them on the relevant stock exchange. Last time I looked they didn't try and make people rich.
They perform a task which is demanded by todays financial culture.
Tesco in Disguise
Where do we go from here?
so? they might not set out to do this but that's not to say it isn't the end result. you need to have cash to play the stock market anyway. they sure as hell don't make life better for anyone who needs it.
so do drug dealers.
please try and keep up.
Parson Henry
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Kept up.
Some unwise individuals borrow heavily to play the stockmarket.
Why did you amend my quote to make your point?