albion534
Well-known member
Just saying, greens need to leave! Way out of their depth
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More lunacy from the Council
- Thread starter Common as Mook
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Just saying, greens need to leave! Way out of their depth
Albumen
Don't wait for me!
Fingers crossed it goes through. No need for 30mph in town is there.
But let's face it, the 'lunatic' council probably aren't doing this on the back of research and tests, just a whim.
This board *shakes head*
Albumen
Don't wait for me!
I'm looking forward to some evidence there .....
albion534
Well-known member
They are so against drivers, yet allow their councalers parking permits around town.... Double standards?
Parking charges? Absoute rip off
So anti car it's funny, they won't be happy till every car in brighton has been pawned and people walk
The Large One
Who's Next?
Worthy of the Argus Comments Section - they love that kind of fantasy over there.
The Large One
Who's Next?
The policy initiated by The Conservatives and backed by the whole council?
The Greens doing the wrong thing would mean them being outvoted and losing the vote on this. But they didn't. It went through.
albion534
Well-known member
And I'm sure Kitkat loves stroking your head while you serve him grean tea
Lord Bracknell
On fire
The report and the recommendations to the Transport Committee are here:-
http://present.brighton-hove.gov.uk/Published/C00000695/M00004099/$$Supp13746dDocPackPublic.pdf
The plans will exclude A259 (Seafront), New Church Road, Ditchling Road (north of the railway line), A23 (north of the railway line), Lewes Road (North of Bear Road) and A270 (Old Shoreham Road).
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Was not Was
Loitering with intent
- Jul 31, 2003
- 1,607
D'oh! Hardly any of the hundred-odd people on bikes killed by drivers every year in the UK are at fault at all. And hardly any RLJ-ing creates risk of serious injury. You've been suckered by the Clarksons of this world into victim-blaming.
- Jan 3, 2012
- 17,354
Just what I wanted to say. Cars kill and hurt people, and they are going to kill and hurt fewer people if they drive more slowly. And i am speaking as someone who would normally take the car, but would prefer to use public transport if it was cheaper and better where i live.
Nothing to do with Clarkson and everything to do with EVERYONE sticking to the rule of law. Neither drivers nor cyclists should be jumping red lights.
TWOCHOICEStom
Well-known member
I think this is all about drivers perceptions of speed more than anything else. If the limit is 20mph, far fewer people will go over 30 than do now. That's a good thing.
Bevendean Hillbilly
New member
What if that was the intention?
The Large One
Who's Next?
Exactly. Sussex Police are at least making a start...
Fines for Brighton cyclists jumping red lights
Cyclists jumping red lights or going the wrong way down a one way street in Brighton will be issued with on the spot fines by Sussex Police.
The force said the biggest complaint for residents and businesses along St James's Street is cyclists travelling the wrong way down the road.
Police said the £30 fines will raise awareness of traffic laws.
PC Elaine Welsh said officers will be "actively looking" for cyclists breaking the rules.
TWOCHOICEStom
Well-known member
Good news. Cycling to work along Church Road is bloody infuriating, the amount of "fellow" cyclists with no helmets, no lights, who run red lights is unbelievable.
Was not Was
Loitering with intent
- Jul 31, 2003
- 1,607
Agreed!
But [MENTION=16110]albion534[/MENTION] drew a link between cyclists RLJing and cyclists getting hit by cars. It's a red herring.
The reality is that when someone jumps a red light on a bike at a junction, they are more likely to be increasing safety (by avoiding the risk of getting 'left-hooked' by a car, for example) than increasing risk.
father_and_son
Well-known member
Point #1
People drive cars because we've bred a society of lazy f*ckwits who wouldn't walk even if their journey is under a mile.
Once you have that mentality then a train or bus that drops you 500 yards from your destination will be dismissed because you'd rather take your beloved car and park it on the doorstep.
Point #2
If a bus costs £50 to travel a single journey and 10 people use it then the bus company needs to charge £5 each.
If the same journey is done with 50 people on the bus then the bus company can charge £1.
Getting people out of cars and on to public transport and the cost of public transport dropping - it has to happen in that order because the bus company can't drop the price if the extra passengers don't materialise.
Yes, this is pure ideology but it benefits the whole of society and therefore its not actually a bad ideology to have!
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
I regularly drive up and down Trafalgar Road in Portslade, and the 20mph "limit" is flatly ignored by everyone. The police said at the time it was introduced that they wouldn't enforce it, so its made feck-all difference (other than the expense to everyone of putting up loads of signs and painting roads).
Pointless legislation by a load of self-justifying we-know-whats-best-for-you arrogant, puffed-up out of touch windbags. This is right up there with the 10 yard cycle lanes, and the utterly superflous mini-roundabouts at residential t-junctions that Portslade, Southwick and Shoreham is now completely festooned with (which actually leads to MORE confusion and hesitation than ever occurred when they were just left alone as straightforward t-junctions).
And yes, I appreciate some of this came in before the Greens were inflicted on us. Local councils are largely dominated by wankers though, whatever party holds current sway.
Pointless legislation by a load of self-justifying we-know-whats-best-for-you arrogant, puffed-up out of touch windbags. This is right up there with the 10 yard cycle lanes, and the utterly superflous mini-roundabouts at residential t-junctions that Portslade, Southwick and Shoreham is now completely festooned with (which actually leads to MORE confusion and hesitation than ever occurred when they were just left alone as straightforward t-junctions).
And yes, I appreciate some of this came in before the Greens were inflicted on us. Local councils are largely dominated by wankers though, whatever party holds current sway.
albion534
Well-known member
How many cyclists jump the red light at the bottom of elm grove? And with the cars either turning left of right? Amount of times I have seen near misses and the cyclist yell abuse! Baffles me!