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[Albion] Minteh







I’d argue the guys in the centre of our midfield were bloody awful.

Dunk and Igor were awful for the second.

There’s a lot of blame to go around again.

But we get that you don’t like Lamptey 😉
Bart lashing down the throat of their midfield wasn't great - honestly would have been better if he'd have lashed it out on halfway, at least our players would have had time to set themselves for the ball coming back at them
 


chickens

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Gruda you must be joking , he has not done one thing to suggest that he should be any where near the first team

I’ve quite enjoyed his cameos. He’s obviously being managed quite carefully, but I feel like we’ve got a player there.
 








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Gruda you must be joking , he has not done one thing to suggest that he should be any where near the first team
Indeed - and most of the time so far he hasn't in fact been anywhere near the first team! How many minutes has he played in our 15 PL matches so far this season? Not a huge number - and has he even started a game?
 




Han Solo

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I still hope his Leauge One technique is some sort of optical illusion because you can't question his pace and work rate. Nice goal but even that looked kind of more of a mix of desire and pace rather than a technical masterpiece.
 




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I still hope his Leauge One technique is some sort of optical illusion because you can't question his pace and work rate. Nice goal but even that looked kind of more of a mix of desire and pace rather than a technical masterpiece.
I was in the ground and I was half convinced he'd fumble it!
 


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So far he's a bit Adama Traore. All pace and strength, but no end product.

Remember though he was plucked from obscurity in the Gambia and has only had a few years of professional coaching, unlike most of our academy kids.

Raw is an understatement
 






Nobby Cybergoat

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I still hope his Leauge One technique is some sort of optical illusion because you can't question his pace and work rate. Nice goal but even that looked kind of more of a mix of desire and pace rather than a technical masterpiece.
I'll go out on a limb here and suggest that given he's 20 and has barely played top level football, his technical skills and all round game will improve.
 


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So far he's a bit Adama Traore. All pace and strength, but no end product.

Remember though he was plucked from obscurity in the Gambia and has only had a few years of professional coaching, unlike most of our academy kid
s.

Raw is an understatement
Yet he’s the one that cost £30m and is in the first team, what strange times we live in.
 


Han Solo

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I'll go out on a limb here and suggest that given he's 20 and has barely played top level football, his technical skills and all round game will improve.
Well, kind of. If your technical ability is League One when you're 20, you're unlikely to ever reach PL class in that area.
If what he is showing right now is indeed his real ability and not the result of stress/nervosity, then he won't reach the technical ability required from a top player. In that case he will have to learn to play to his strengths/around his weaknesses rather than making things as complicated as he frequently does now.
 




Nobby Cybergoat

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Well, kind of. If your technical ability is League One when you're 20, you're unlikely to ever reach PL class in that area.
If what he is showing right now is indeed his real ability and not the result of stress/nervosity, then he won't reach the technical ability required from a top player. In that case he will have to learn to play to his strengths/around his weaknesses rather than making things as complicated as he frequently does now.
How many players do you want me to name who were "technically" average at 20 yet went on to make dramatic improvements? A clue. It's all of them

What does technically really mean anyway. It's a pointless word, but i get that people use it as shorthand, for being able to quickly control a ball, play an accurate pass, be generally in control of your coordination, strike a ball cleanly.

Obviously this improves as you go through your 20s. That's why footballers attend training.
 


Han Solo

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How many players do you want me to name who were "technically" average at 20 yet went on to make dramatic improvements? A clue. It's all of them

What does technically really mean anyway. It's a pointless word, but i get that people use it as shorthand, for being able to quickly control a ball, play an accurate pass, be generally in control of your coordination, strike a ball cleanly.

Obviously this improves as you go through your 20s. That's why footballers attend training.
With the intensity and game schedule of the PL a team will on average have four training sessions per week and much of it will be spent on tactical or physical training. Most of the actual football development needs to be done in the golden ages of motor learning between 8-17.

Sure, skills can still be refined for another few years until plasticity in the brain starts to decrease and physical development peaks, but core foundations must be there before that.

Technical development is a very small part of why Premier League footballers attend training.
 


AstroSloth

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Well, kind of. If your technical ability is League One when you're 20, you're unlikely to ever reach PL class in that area.
If what he is showing right now is indeed his real ability and not the result of stress/nervosity, then he won't reach the technical ability required from a top player. In that case he will have to learn to play to his strengths/around his weaknesses rather than making things as complicated as he frequently does now.
Yeah that Jamie Vardy bloke has been awful after coming up from non league in his 20's.

Minteh hasn't been a professional footballer for long, he's a really late joiner and his development last year was incredible according to Feyenoord fans.
 


Han Solo

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Yeah that Jamie Vardy bloke has been awful after coming up from non league in his 20's.

Minteh hasn't been a professional footballer for long, he's a really late joiner and his development last year was incredible according to Feyenoord fans.
Jamie Vardy was missed out by clubs in higher divisions. Not like he wasn't sitting around collecting navel fluff, he was scoring a lot of goals in the lower leagues and showing that he was one or several classes above. If he had non-league technique when he was 25, he would never have put a foot in the PL or possibly even the Championship.

He has some technical limitations compared to properly academy schooled players, but he is playing around those weaknesses.
There's no stepovers, backheels or sexy chip passing. He just does what he's good at. And maybe thats what Minteh will have to do eventually if he isn't as well-rounded as your common Saka, Mitoma or Trossard.
 




AstroSloth

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Jamie Vardy was missed out by clubs in higher divisions. Not like he wasn't sitting around collecting navel fluff, he was scoring a lot of goals in the lower leagues and showing that he was one or several classes above. If he had non-league technique when he was 25, he would never have put a foot in the PL or possibly even the Championship.

He has some technical limitations compared to properly academy schooled players, but he is playing around those weaknesses.
There's no stepovers, backheels or sexy chip passing. He just does what he's good at. And maybe thats what Minteh will have to do eventually if he isn't as well-rounded as your common Saka, Mitoma or Trossard.
Minteh was playing amateur football a little over two years ago.

He's been professional for less than 3 years and has shown massive development.
 


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Minteh was playing amateur football a little over two years ago.

He's been professional for less than 3 years and has shown massive development.
Which, along with what I've seen, makes me struggle to understand why we paid as much as we did! I hope I'm proved wrong.
 


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