Randy McNob
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- Jun 13, 2020
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People getting outraged because others don’t believe in ‘taking the knee’.
Scenes.
i'm more intrigued as to the motivation behind those who deliberately miss the point
People getting outraged because others don’t believe in ‘taking the knee’.
Scenes.
What a ridiculous thing to say.
The Millwall fans who booed have done something that is not illegal.
Abhorent yes. But we can’t just ban people because they think differently or caused offences to others.
In fact, things seem to be getting worse.
People certainly have been banned for expressions of racist views.Abhorent yes. But we can’t just ban people because they think differently or caused offences to others.
What a ridiculous thing to say.
The Millwall fans who booed have done something that is not illegal.
Abhorent yes. But we can’t just ban people because they think differently or caused offences to others.
This.
How can the fight against racism be counterproductive it if annoys or upsets or bores people? What people?
Every bitter 'enough is enough' merchant needs to take a good look at himself. How ****ing difficult is it to watch some footballers spending 10 seconds to acknowledge the fight against racism? From the comfort of your own sofa? Go and make a cup of tea if it offends you.
Racists.
'Enough is enough about racism, now'
Racists.
Some, too stupid to even realise they're racists.
This was the most predictable event of 2020. Just surprised it didn't happen at Burnley unless I've missed it.Who knew people in a shit area of London, surrounded by cash with none of it filtering their way would be resentful about black live matters? I'm not saying it's right but it was obvious (and I said so on the F1 thread before I get accused of aftertiming)
They should have ditched this at the end of last season. It is just a gesture now and a mile away from where this started with Colin Kaepernick.That meant something.
This was the most predictable event of 2020. Just surprised it didn't happen at Burnley unless I've missed it.
You need to stop listening to Farage and other racists
We need to be able to have an adult debate about this.
Personally I think there is scope to be somewhere between "Don't think we should carry on with this particular method of showing support for a movement indefinitely" and "racist".
Sir Les amongst others seems to be in agreement.
Personally, I have a collection of random thoughts on this matter.
This shouldn't be turned into a club v club thing. Racism is something for the whole game to eradicate. Millwall as a club have tried as hard as anyone to do this
It's clear there is a large section against this happening though. Is this only racism or is this representative more of a tabloid style anti-wokism. If just racism, this certainly represents the largest percentage sticking their heads above parapets we've seen in decades
This was clearly organised online. We need to find out where and challenge
I think there is an element of applauding a Stalin speech going on with ending the taking the knee here. Ie if you're the first to stop, you know you'll get taken out and shot
Whilst I think anti-racism is a wholly worthwhile message. I can sort of see why someone would take the view that football isn't the place for political and societal messages. Personally I think there are loads of good causes which we could highlight, but choose not to. I think the impending ecological and climate catastrophe is more important, (ok yes i'm white, but racism although terrible isn't going to lead to the collapse of the civilised world in out children's lifetime) but sports people don't make weekly messages about this.
You need to stop thinking that anyone who disagrees with you is inspired by Farage, or that just because they disagree with you that they are racists.
If the “preaching” stops, what takes its place? The only long term solution is education. Unfortunately I don’t see a whole load of evidence of (white) people wanting to be educated. So, taking the knee is a weekly reminder to most of us to educate ourselves. Until things start to change, we need that reminder. In fact, things seem to be getting worse, so we need a whole load more reminders, too.
You need to stop thinking that anyone who disagrees with you is inspired by Farage, or that just because they disagree with you that they are racists.
We need to be able to have an adult debate about this.
Personally I think there is scope to be somewhere between "Don't think we should carry on with this particular method of showing support for a movement indefinitely" and "racist".
Sir Les amongst others seems to be in agreement.
Personally, I have a collection of random thoughts on this matter.
This shouldn't be turned into a club v club thing. Racism is something for the whole game to eradicate. Millwall as a club have tried as hard as anyone to do this
It's clear there is a large section against this happening though. Is this only racism or is this representative more of a tabloid style anti-wokism. If just racism, this certainly represents the largest percentage sticking their heads above parapets we've seen in decades
This was clearly organised online. We need to find out where and challenge
I think there is an element of applauding a Stalin speech going on with ending the taking the knee here. Ie if you're the first to stop, you know you'll get taken out and shot
Whilst I think anti-racism is a wholly worthwhile message. I can sort of see why someone would take the view that football isn't the place for political and societal messages. Personally I think there are loads of good causes which we could highlight, but choose not to. I think the impending ecological and climate catastrophe is more important, (ok yes i'm white, but racism although terrible isn't going to lead to the collapse of the civilised world in out children's lifetime) but sports people don't make weekly messages about this.
So you.....think it is....right that the Millwall supporters.....booed.....the taking if the knee.
Because it is just a gesture now......
What sort of gesture do you thing it is?
No fans allowed at Turf Moor.
I think that you will find that this kind of 'education' works well in North Korea but not in Western democrcaies.
You certainly can ban people if they intentionally cause offense to others.