mikeyjh
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He must have changed since he left us then.
Most of us change between being 19 and 34 right? I mean, he's nearly 2x as old! Only an idiot would judge him on how he behaved at 19 (I'm not suggesting you are BTW).
He must have changed since he left us then.
Yes but you are clearly confusing an organisation (under the same name) and an anti racist statement.See below from the New York post back in 2015 -
Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors said in a newly surfaced video from 2015 that she and her fellow organizers are “trained Marxists” – making clear their movement’s ideological foundation, according to a report.
Cullors, 36, was the protégé of Eric Mann, former agitator of the Weather Underground domestic terror organization, and spent years absorbing the Marxist-Leninist ideology that shaped her worldview, Breitbart News reported.
“The first thing, I think, is that we actually do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alicia in particular are trained organizers,” she said, referring to BLM co-founder Alicia Garza.
“We are trained Marxists. We are super-versed on, sort of, ideological theories. And I think that what we really tried to do is build a movement that could be utilized by many, many black folk,” Cullors added in the interview with Jared Ball of The Real News Network.
While promoting her book “When They Call You a Terrorist: A Black Lives Matter Memoir” in 2018, Cullors described her introduction to and support for Marxist ideology.
She described to Democracy Now! how she became a trained organizer with the Labor/Community Strategy Center, which she called her “first political home” under the mentorship of Mann, its director, Breitbart reported.
The center, which describes its philosophy as “an urban experiment,” uses grassroots organization to “focus on Black and Latino communities with deep historical ties to the long history of anti-colonial, anti-imperialist, pro-communist resistance to the US empire,” according to the outlet.
It also expresses its appreciation for the work of the US Communist Party, “especially Black communists,” as well as its support for “the great work of the Black Panther Party, the American Indian Movement, Young Lords, Brown Berets, and the great revolutionary rainbow experiments of the 1970s,” Breitbart reported.
Eric Mann
Eric Mann
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In 1968, Mann was a coordinator for Students for a Democratic Society, from which a more radical wing –- the Weather Underground — was splintered the following year.
It was led by Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, who called for “direct action” over civil disobedience, seeking the overthrow of the US government. In 1969, the FBI classified the group as a domestic terror organization.
Mann was eventually charged with assault and battery, disturbing the peace, damaging property, defacing a building and disturbing a public assembly, for which he spent 18 months behind bars.
From the outside looking in you have obviously upset him, but please carry on if it makes you happy.
Yes, it appears I have upset him, which was never my intention, and for that I apologise.
But you made your point and kept going at him, that’s why I commented.
Yes but you are clearly confusing an organisation (under the same name) and an anti racist statement.
The political persuasion of that organisation is irrelevant and is simply being used as shield by racists to continue business as usual.
As if those booing even understand what Marxism is.
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It’s started to lose its meaning now, players are half kneeling whilst laughing and giggling with their team mates. I get it’s a symbolic gesture that will go down in football history as part of a movement but next time you can, really watch what the players do when they take a knee.
Woah there Trigger, he accused me of libel, so I feel I had a right to defend myself I only responded to his posts until others joined in, so it wasn't like some sort of witch hunt!
I don't like being accused of libel and to be honest would appreciate that comment being retracted...
I don’t agree with the booing but I’m not surprised.
People have had enough of being preached to and this has run its cause. Players are told to do it across the board, which means it means less. I’d let those that want to continue to do so but there shouldn’t be an ultimatum to all clubs.
Like the NHS clapping it has served its purposes.
I don’t agree with the booing but I’m not surprised.
People have had enough of being preached to and this has run its cause. Players are told to do it across the board, which means it means less. I’d let those that want to continue to do so but there shouldn’t be an ultimatum to all clubs.
Like the NHS clapping it has served its purposes.
I would categorise (the American) BLM movement as an inheriting the radical traditions that started America down the route of separatism from Britain long ago, mixed with a big dose of evangelical furore.
At it's heart is the Christian message of care for those without power, rather than socialism - though of course I wouldn't disagree that many of its leading figures are probably socialist in outlook (but then community socialism is fairly close to the radical Christian community outlook).
I don’t agree with the booing but I’m not surprised.
People have had enough of being preached to and this has run its cause. Players are told to do it across the board, which means it means less. I’d let those that want to continue to do so but there shouldn’t be an ultimatum to all clubs.
Like the NHS clapping it has served its purposes.
I think it’s very unfortunate that the Black Lives Matter organisation is now tarnished with accusations of anti Semitic language and some of its leaders seem to have encouraged looting etc . The message is an important one but it is being undermined by the BLM organisation.
I did say all along , this important message of racism should have been aligned with a non political movement not a Marxist type one .
Doesn’t excuse booing though .
The American BLM is anything but Christian. They are radical left wingers. They care more about transgender issues than the single parent issue in the US.
As this prominent sports host points out they want to destroy the "patriarchal" nuclear family model. The total opposite of any Christian view on the family unit.
Ok then, let’s explain it another way.
He said he wasn’t defending the Millwall fans, but you didn’t leave it there.