[News] Middle East conflict

[BrightonCottager]

There was a demo down on Hove Lawns near the Peace Statue this lunchtime with hundreds of people remembering the thousands killed by the Israeli state, with someone reading out the names. And about 30 people holding Israeli flags and Union Jacks. Loads of plod there and seemed to pass off peacefully.

 

[lasvegan]

VICTOR DAVIS HANSON: Try A Little Honesty About Israel

Both the Harris-Walz presidential ticket and now lame-duck President Joe Biden keep insisting that they are Israel’s best friend.

dailycaller.com

Does the Biden/Harris appeasement of Iran bear responsibility for the current atrocities in the Middle East?

 

[armchairclubber]

VICTOR DAVIS HANSON: Try A Little Honesty About Israel

Both the Harris-Walz presidential ticket and now lame-duck President Joe Biden keep insisting that they are Israel’s best friend.

dailycaller.com

Does the Biden/Harris appeasement of Iran bear responsibility for the current atrocities in the Middle East?

I would say more that Biden/Harris appeasement of Israel (not forgetting our own UK govt.) bears responsibility for the current atrocities in the Middle East.

The article had a slant Netenyahu himself could have penned though seeing it was Victor Davis Hanson ....from his bio....

A Trump supporter who also wrote the book 'A case for Trump' and praises Trump for "an uncanny ability to troll and create hysteria among his media and political critics."]

 

[wellquickwoody]

And now the Yanks go further in their support, sigh.

One theory doing the rounds is that once Israel hits Iran oil facilities as expected, Iran will then target gulf oil production thereby driving up the price worldwide. Trump then promises Yanks that they will keep their own oil and Netanyahu gets even stronger support if Trump wins. So f***ing depressing.

 

[armchairclubber]

 

[:J)]

Words can't express how vile this is. No coverage on the mainstream news of course. No words of condemnation from Starmer et al, of course. And because it isn't the first time tents full of sleeping people have been bombed and burned in al Aqsa, and it wasn't condemned then, it most certainly isn't going to be condemned now.

 

[RandyWanger]

Isn't it something like 90% of the media is owned by 6 companies, 5 of which have jewish owners?

 

[Oh_aye]

Isn't it something like 90% of the media is owned by 6 companies, 5 of which have jewish owners?

I don't know. Is it? Because its quite a statement to have a haphazard guess at.

 

[borat]

For a differing opinion

Very powerful.

In a just world, a lot of media, institutions and governments would be held to account for either directly supporting, endorsing or providing cover for Israel's barbarism. More likely it will be whitewashed like the Iraq war.

 

[superseagull1994]

I’m not sure if this has been posted anywhere yet?

 

[AstroSloth]

I’m not sure if this has been posted anywhere yet?

Looking at the context, this was posted specifically about the October 7th terrorists apparently.

This "journalist" is taking something completely out of context and has no integrity.

 

[borat]

 

[GingerBeerMan]

I wrote a letter to my MP this week about the crisis. I've never done anything like this before, and I know will have absolutely no effect whatsoever, but I can't think of anything else to do to stop the genuine anger and frustration this war brings on a daily basis.

 

[Springal]

Certainly giving Putin a run for his money…

 

[beorhthelm]

but Israel must defend itself. those children are future terrorists, so legitimate targets. or something, they dont really care or even offer any excuse.

 

[Curious Orange]

Gosh this thread is depressing, which is hardly surprising.

Unfortunately there is no clear cut right and wrong in this whole conflict. The only clear cut things as far a I can tell are:

a) there were no Jews in Gaza prior to Hamas starting the conflict.
b) Hamas would start the conflict again irrespective of whether they had their own state (which they kind of already did), as they are idealogically committed to Israel not existing.

 

[armchairclubber]

I wrote a letter to my MP this week about the crisis. I've never done anything like this before, and I know will have absolutely no effect whatsoever, but I can't think of anything else to do to stop the genuine anger and frustration this war brings on a daily basis.

You're right in that you are likely to receive a predictable and standardised response from any Tory or Labour MP. I'd be interested to hear of anything other, depending on your MP. Still a good thing though to voice your objection.

Most towns and cities have a local PSC (Palestine Solidarity Campaign) Group. Before anyone might try claim otherwise (and to differentiate from the previous post that doesn't recognise Palestine) these are also part of a National Campaign Group and do not support Hamas in any way, which is against the law in this country.

Local PSCs generally meet in town centres every weekend and from experience you will find a welcoming and interesting multi cultural gathering campaigning for the recognition of Palestine, highlighting UK policies and calling for an end to UK arms sales whilst bringing to attention the suffering of innocent Palestinians.

Some local groups

Brighton & Hove Palestine Campaign – Supporting the struggle to achieve a just and lasting peace for Palestine

Brighton & Hove Palestine Solidarity Campaign - Supporting the struggle to achieve a just and lasting peace for Palestine.

brightonpsc.org

Hastings and District Palestine Solidarity Campaign.

Hastings and District Palestine Solidarity Campaign aims to raise public awareness about Israel's occupation of Palestine and the struggle of the Palestinian people against the injustice of Israeli apartheid. We support the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement.

www.hastingspalestinecampaign.org

Worthing & Adur Palestine Solidarity Campaign – The website of Worthing & Adur Palestine Solidarity Campaign

Home page of Worthing & Adur Palestine Solidarity Campaign

www.worthingpsc.org

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palestinecampaign.org

 

[Insel affe]

I’m not sure if this has been posted anywhere yet?

If true, the club has to take action, we cannot be seen to take sides.
Ok, I see someone has already replied and the comments are being used out of context.

 

[Black Rod]

I’m not sure if this has been posted anywhere yet?

It was on a Tomer Hemed threat which got locked, presumably before it veered off in a questionably legal direction / the club said shut it down as we don't want anyone talking about / it was derailed by the usual suspects

 

[Insel affe]

That is sickening, I really despair at the Israeli regime right now, and the west for not being strong enough.
The circle goes round the hunted becomes the hunter, I am starting to hate Israel and that is not a healthy, this is not what so called god fearing people do to each other. Israel's response has gone far beyond acceptable and it will not stop here, they have yet to respond to Iran's attack in full.

These are war crimes and we are facilitating it, sickening, Keir Starmer Fkn open your mouth and speak the truth this is tooo Fkn far.