[News] Middle East conflict

[birthofanorange]

What are the chem trails dropping on us Syd?

Whatever it is, @sydney is getting far better shit than I'm getting.

 

[sydney]

How do you know what he means? He doesn’t know himself half the time!

bore off ya daft kunt.....i bet you've got a picture of your dog as your insta profile

so many condescending smart arses on this board , the world is on the brink of a major military occurrence here , the rich are getting richer and richer and the poor are multiplying in numbers , homeless people clogging up countless western societies , the system has managed to completely re work itself within 50 years and you goons think that the people in charge have got people like your interests at heart as a part of their decision making ...?? fuckin dreamers , id rather be alert and wrong than be clueless and sleepwalking into a shit storm.

 

[sydney]

Because I picked up Sydney on a completely different point. I had no intention of wasting my Saturday thread hogging with you.

Also because it’s irrelevant. The Houthis are terrorists carrying out illegal attacks on shipping. I’m glad they’re getting bombed.

the Houthis involvement can be likened to a girls big brother stepping in and trying to stop her being raped by an intruder , it may be a bit hard for you to wrap your myopic brain around the concept , if you think direct British involvement is a good thing you really need to go and spend a couple of weeks in Luton or Bradford.....as moderators go you're pretty poor to be fair.

 

[BadFish]

bore off ya daft kunt.....i bet you've got a picture of your dog as your insta profile

so many condescending smart arses on this board , the world is on the brink of a major military occurrence here , the rich are getting richer and richer and the poor are multiplying in numbers , homeless people clogging up countless western societies , the system has managed to completely re work itself within 50 years and you goons think that the people in charge have got people like your interests at heart as a part of their decision making ...?? fuckin dreamers , id rather be alert and wrong than be clueless and sleepwalking into a shit storm.

Surely being wrong and clueless aren't that far away from each other?

What's in the chem trails?

 

[sydney]

Surely being wrong and clueless aren't that far away from each other?

What's in the chem trails?

use an alternative search engine too find out

would clueless be the same as having your head up your arse ...?

how do you feel about Penny Wong flying to Israel this week to broker a peace deal....?? ffs is she taking the piss..? who voted for direct British military involvement in Yemen...?

 

[BadFish]

use an alternative search engine too find out

would clueless be the same as having your head up your arse ...?

how do you feel about Penny Wong flying to Israel this week to broker a peace deal....?? ffs is she taking the piss..? who voted for direct British military involvement in Yemen...?

Why do I need an alternate search engine? Surely you can just tell me and post a link?

This is the weird part about conspiracy theorists. They are never confident enough in their knowledge to share it with anyone.

Red flag.

 

[sydney]

Why do I need an alternate search engine? Surely you can just tell me and post a link?

This is the weird part about conspiracy theorists. They are never confident enough in their knowledge to share it with anyone.

Red flag.

chemtrails was one part of my tirade.....what about the rest of it ..? do you trust the morons in charge to do the right thing Biden , Sunak , Albanese , Trudeau....?? you can either choose to be wary of chemtrails or not , to be honest i don't think its a problem health wise in Australia but plenty of people in America and Europe are onto it and discussing it.

 

[BadFish]

chemtrails was one part of my tirade.....what about the rest of it ..? do you trust the morons in charge to do the right thing Biden , Sunak , Albanese , Trudeau....?? you can either choose to be wary of chemtrails or not , to be honest i don't think its a problem health wise in Australia but plenty of people in America and Europe are onto it and discussing it.

I don't like to discuss too many things at once, it gets confusing.

What are the chem trails dropping on us?

Why won't you answer the question?

 

[beorhthelm]

chemtrails was one part of my tirade.....what about the rest of it ..? do you trust the morons in charge to do the right thing Biden , Sunak , Albanese , Trudeau....?? you can either choose to be wary of chemtrails or not , to be honest i don't think its a problem health wise in Australia but plenty of people in America and Europe are onto it and discussing it.

plenty of people discuss the Loch Ness monster too.

 

[WATFORD zero]

You tell 'em Syd

 

[jcdenton08]

FFS. Why are people shitting up the thread. It’s like Swansman having a manic episode all over again.

 

[Motogull]

I'm ignoring this thread now.

I'll not ignore the news and hope that resolution is found asap but it is really grim and this thread just reflects that.

No offence anyone.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

I'm ignoring this thread now.

I'll not ignore the news and hope that resolution is found asap but it is really grim and this thread just reflects that.

No offence anyone.

Better to keep a wary eye on the thread shirley, call out people slyly trying to manipulate it

 

[knocky1]

Average 250 Palestinian deaths a day for 100 days.

 

[Krafty]

I'm ignoring this thread now.

I'll not ignore the news and hope that resolution is found asap but it is really grim and this thread just reflects that.

No offence anyone.

No offence taken. What has occurred is truly horrific and no one can deny that. These are some shocking figures I have found:

• At least 18,000+ Palestinians and 1,300+ Israelis have been killed in the 2023 Israel-Hamas War.
• ...with a further 1,900,000+ Palestinians displaced within Gaza and 500,000+ Israelis displaced.

I don't ignore the news but sometimes I just cannot watch some of the content. It is all too depressing and, frankly, f***ed up.

 

[A1X]

 

[Zeberdi]

No offence taken. What has occurred is truly horrific and no one can deny that. These are some shocking figures I have found:

• At least 18,000+ Palestinians and 1,300+ Israelis have been killed in the 2023 Israel-Hamas War.
• ...with a further 1,900,000+ Palestinians displaced within Gaza and 500,000+ Israelis displaced.

I don't ignore the news but sometimes I just cannot watch some of the content. It is all too depressing and, frankly, f***ed up.

Do you have sources for these figures please - the Gazan death toll is underestimated and the displacement of Israelis is overestimated according to other sources?

January 14 - 100 Days War

Most sources are reporting the Hamas Heath Ministry figures (in the absence of anyone else collating them or being in a position to) of around 24,000 + Gazan fatalities (with about 7,000 missing/buried under rubble) of which 10,000 are children which would make it nearer 30,000. The IDF are claiming 9,000 Hamas fighters have been killed although that would make nearly every man killed a Hamas fighter according to the IDF since around two thirds of the fatalities are women and children. ( Aid agencies and MSM have said there is no evidence the Health Ministry figures are inflated and may even be an underestimate https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...ncies-consider-gaza-toll-reliable-2023-10-27/)

Reports I’ve seen put evacuated/displaced Israelis at around 96,000 in the Northern border towns and another 117,000 in Southern Israel near Gaza, (the quoted ‘500,000‘ is well over double that figure). It should be noted, devastating as it is for Israelis to be forced to temporarily evacuate to safe areas to stay with families or to hotels, it is a temporary displacement and their empty homes are being guarded by soldiers, Gazans don’t have that choice. The displacement of nearly 2 million Gazans is from homes and areas of infrastructure completely destroyed - they will have no homes to return to but instead face life in a refugee camp after the war There is also no where in Gaza that is safe for them - they can not leave to go to hotels and family - refugee evacuation sites are being targeted daily.

That said, ordinary Israeli civilians near the war zones are also being impacted heavily by the war and the situation is for them is terrifying, especially for those who are scared to go home for understandably they are traumatised by the events of the Hamas Massacre 7/10 and the possibility of facing a similar type raid by Hezbollah. What I know of Jewish Israeli mentality, after decades of rockets, suicide bombs, they are very stoic and typically grow ‘use’ to the violence - for them to say are scared of what is happening, enough not to want to return to their homes is an indication of how far this conflict departs from previous conflicts in the scale of escalation risk.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...hern-border-leaves-evacuees-limbo-2024-01-11/

Just tragic all round with millions of people feeling powerless to do anything about it.

 

[Krafty]

Do you have sources for these figures please - the Gazan death toll is underestimated and the displacement of Israelis is overestimated according to other sources?

I found these figures in Wikipedia's article '2023 Israel-Hamas war'.

The Gazan death toll (23,968+) was referenced from the Gaza Health Ministry and Government Information Office.
The displacement of Israelis (500,000) was referenced in an October article by Barron's.

I understand these figures may not be accurate.

The previous Gazan death toll that I mentioned (18,000+) was from another Wikipedia article that referenced an earlier source.

 

[Zeberdi]

I found these figures in Wikipedia's article '2023 Israel-Hamas war'.

The Gazan death toll (23,968+) was referenced from the Gaza Health Ministry and Government Information Office.
The displacement of Israelis (500,000) was referenced in an October article by Barron's.

The previous Gazan death toll that I mentioned (18,000+) was from another Wikipedia article that referenced an earlier source.

Ah, that makes sense - when you quoted the 18,000 was from 2 or 3 weeks ago, that explains such a discrepancy- I think all these figures are coming out of the Hamas Health Ministry so no way of verifying anything (and they won’t be exactly accurate regardless of the source for obvious reasons.)

Gazans are being killed at a rate of 250 per day, according to Oxfam’s refs, so the weekly death toll changes quite significantly from week to week - this was last week’s :

• According to UNOCHA, there were 23,074 reported deaths in Gaza between 7 October 23 and 7 January 24, an average of 250.8 per day and 330 deaths so far in the West Bank.

Daily death rate in Gaza higher than any other major 21st Century conflict - Oxfam | Oxfam International

www.oxfam.org

 

[sydney]

ill desist with the side tracking then ...sorry , i just love an argument .....i just don't see the point in Australia sending a gay , Asian mp to Israel and Palestine to try and broker a peace deal ....!!?? i mean ffs , why has it taken South Africa to call the Israelis out ...it's a disgusting state of affairs and unfortunately all to easy to fly off the handle when discussing ....ths world is a pretty f***ed up place at the moment and looks like there's a good chance its going to get more so.

and i have zero trust in the fuckers running the show either ...none of them.