[Albion] Maupay charged by FA

[Change at Barnham]

This is all you need to look at.
It explains everything you need to know about Jon Moss.......

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[Thunder Bolt]

This isn't retrospective, it's under E3 foul and abusive language toward officials and any player sent off for it would be subject to the same charge. You can view the list of various charges here: https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance

I don't know what happened with Guendouzi last year, you'd have to see the refs report because if he saw it and acted, then there wouldn't be retrospective action. But as said, Maupay's isn't retrospective, Moss red carded him and this is the resulting charge for what he got red carded for.

No, the FA charge is in addition to the red card.

https://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/19293627.neal-maupay-charged-misconduct-fa/

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

This is all you need to look at.
It explains everything you need to know about Jon Moss.......

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Quite incredible that he was allowed to get away with that. Nevertheless, as l said in an earlier post, there is still no excuse for Maupay's behaviour.

 

[KeegansHairPiece]

No, the FA charge is in addition to the red card.

https://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/19293627.neal-maupay-charged-misconduct-fa/

Yes I know, the red card was given under rule E3 'Improper Conduct Toward an Official' so triggers the charge. I think the Argus have got that wrong, he would be facing the charge regardless of whether he swore after the red or not.

Here are the guidelines: https://plawyered.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/fa-rule-e3.pdf

 

[zefarelly]

Just one outside of the top 6. We need other players to score goals, instead of expecting Maupay to do it all.

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There's a reason why West Ham and Leicester are as high in the table, as they are.

Yes, half their first teams are on that list. Above our 'top scorer'

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Yes I know, the red card was given under rule E3 'Improper Conduct Toward an Official' so automatically triggers an E3 charge. Any player getting sent off under E3 would face the same charge, it's not retrospective.

This is what Brian Owen wrote

The Albion striker was suspended for two games after he was shown a red card by referee Jonathan Moss at Wolves on Sunday.

That ban could now be extended.

Maupay was sent off for dissent after approaching Moss and his colleagues at full-time.

The charge relates to what happened after the red card was shown.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Yes, half their first teams are on that list. Above our 'top scorer'

Which is my whole point. Trossard, Welbeck, Lallana Gross etc should all be scoring and not leaving it all on Maupay's shoulders.
Just think if we had three players with 8 or 9 goals.

 

[TWOCHOICEStom]

ref too fat to keep up with play.

This is blatantly what Neal referred to isn't it.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

This isn't retrospective, it's under E3 foul and abusive language toward officials and any player sent off for it would be subject to the same charge. You can view the list of various charges here: https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance

I don't know what happened with Guendouzi last year, you'd have to see the refs report because if he saw it and acted, then there wouldn't be retrospective action. But as said, Maupay's isn't retrospective, Moss red carded him and this is the resulting charge for what he got red carded for.

I acknowledge that I am using the word retrospective incorrectly here. Thanks for pointing that out.


I believe my point that little old Brighton are still more likely to be on the wrong end of these sort of decisions (either in game, or post-match) than many other clubs.

 

[KeegansHairPiece]

This is what Brian Owen wrote

The Albion striker was suspended for two games after he was shown a red card by referee Jonathan Moss at Wolves on Sunday.

That ban could now be extended.

Maupay was sent off for dissent after approaching Moss and his colleagues at full-time.

The charge relates to what happened after the red card was shown.

I'm not certain, but I think Brian Owen has that wrong. I think the red card would trigger a hearing under E3 anyway.

The previous example I can find is when Moss sent Dean Smith into the stand against ManCity. Smith faced the same E3 charge despite not saying anything to the ref (Jon Moss AGAIN!) after the red.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/aston-villa/dean-smith-referee-red-card-charged-b1790903.html

 

[zefarelly]

Which is my whole point. Trossard, Welbeck, Lallana Gross etc should all be scoring and not leaving it all on Maupay's shoulders.
Just think if we had three players with 8 or 9 goals.

Agreed, Maupay should at the very very least be into double figures as effectively a sole striker.

 

[KeegansHairPiece]

I acknowledge that I am using the word retrospective incorrectly here. Thanks for pointing that out.


I believe my point that little old Brighton are still more likely to be on the wrong end of these sort of decisions (either in game, or post-match) than many other clubs.

Completely agree with you on that. The pen that was chalked off against Connolly, then the Maguire on Welbeck not being given, not to mention the ridiculous overtime and after FT pen is evidence enough just against MU this season!

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I'm not certain, but I think Brian Owen has that wrong. I think the red card would trigger a hearing under E3 anyway.

The previous example I can find is when Moss sent Dean Smith into the stand against ManCity. Smith faced the same E3 charge despite not saying anything to the ref (Jon Moss AGAIN!) after the red.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/aston-villa/dean-smith-referee-red-card-charged-b1790903.html

Why would Maupay be required to attend a hearing on Thursday if it is just for the swearing and red card?

 

[KeegansHairPiece]

Why would Maupay be required to attend a hearing on Thursday if it is just for the swearing and red card?

E3 is to do with abusing the officials. The FA have taken this rule on it for sometime. A red card under E3, like I said I believe triggers a hearing to explain why you were abusing the officials.

 

[Ludensian Gull]

Probably a 3 game ban but hopefully the club will manage to get it extended to 8 on appeal.

 

[oldboyroy]

We can only guess what was said after he was shown red card. Using foul language happens every game many times over. Remember Pickford calling lino ****ing blind at an offside earlier this season heard clearly and sky usual apology for bad language......that's just usual every game so Maupay may of called the ref a useless/corrupt/incompetent **** or words to that effect? Again, no excuse especially when players know they'll be in trouble for it

 

[Perry's Tracksuit Bottoms]

E3 is to do with abusing the officials. The FA have taken this rule on it for sometime. A red card under E3, like I said I believe triggers a hearing to explain why you were abusing the officials.

So Maupay gets an opportunity to explain to the FA that Moss is fat and can't keep up?

Sounds like fun.

 

[sydney]

Only himself to blame, as an ex local referee any abuse directed towards them for whatever reason cannot be tolerated

yeah , sloping pitches , dog shit on yer knees , keys and cans of stella at half time .....not really yer premier league mojo is it...

 

[sydney]

We can only guess what was said after he was shown red card. Using foul language happens every game many times over. Remember Pickford calling lino ****ing blind at an offside earlier this season heard clearly and sky usual apology for bad language......that's just usual every game so Maupay may of called the ref a useless/corrupt/incompetent **** or words to that effect? Again, no excuse especially when players know they'll be in trouble for it

we've been shafted 3 or 4 times this season so ****em .....bring it on.

 

[KeegansHairPiece]

So Maupay gets an opportunity to explain to the FA that Moss is fat and can't keep up?

Sounds like fun.

"So Mr Maupay, care to explain why you were abusing the match official?"



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