[Albion] Mats Wieffer SINGS on 5 year contract

[Eeyore]

I don't get the vitriol. It's just twenty two men kicking a bag of air around a patch of grass. I was disappointed in the result overall and felt Albion were poor at times again (yet seemingly doing well results wise).

A Keystone Cop style give away at the end, but Wolves were worth a point. At no stage would I be churning out insults to a player for an individual error. It's not like he meant it. Folk should be better than that or take up knitting.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Imagine if Weiffer takes the ball to the corner, wastes 30 seconds and they equalise from their next piece of possession. Would have got absolute pelters. Had to try the pass.

I think he had so many options he didn’t know which one to take… a bit like when a player has a cross/ shot which ends up as neither

The famous old crot.

Indeed.

 

[METALMICKY]

In this whole debate I can't help thinking Igor is getting an easy ride when he should have been out quicker to block the shot?

We're all hurting as is no doubt Mats but we need to move on.

 

[chickens]

Yup, an absolutely dreadful moment. He’ll be absolutely gutted about it. As bad as we feel about it, it wasn’t our f*** up. He is only too aware that it was his.

He’s having a rocky start to life here, which probably explains why he’s being used sparingly, but this can become a “chicken or egg” situation, where nobody knows if he’s struggling because he’s not really getting minutes, or he’s not really getting minutes because he’s struggling.

He’s wearing the stripes and deserves our support, despite one awful moment yesterday.

For a bit of perspective, it was a draw not a loss, and Ferguson got back on the scoresheet for the first time in a while. From open play too.

There are positives to take from yesterday. We move on.

 

[keaton]

Carlos has given away 9 assists to the opposition and now he looks like he’s played in the PL all his career, give the guy a bit of time to adjust.

This isn't a real stat is it? Because that would errors leading to goals and Baleba hasn't done that

 

[Skaville]

In this whole debate I can't help thinking Igor is getting an easy ride when he should have been out quicker to block the shot?

We're all hurting as is no doubt Mats but we need to move on.

He was dealing with a huge overload, a 3v1 due to Pervis going AWOL.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

He was dealing with a huge overload, a 3v1 due to Pervis going AWOL.

By backing off he didn’t deal with anything.
2 of the 3 Wolves players were so inept they ran to the same area….

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Yup, an absolutely dreadful moment. He’ll be absolutely gutted about it. As bad as we feel about it, it wasn’t our f*** up. He is only too aware that it was his.

He’s having a rocky start to life here, which probably explains why he’s being used sparingly, but this can become a “chicken or egg” situation, where nobody knows if he’s struggling because he’s not really getting minutes, or he’s not really getting minutes because he’s struggling.

He’s wearing the stripes and deserves our support, despite one awful moment yesterday.

For a bit of perspective, it was a draw not a loss, and Ferguson got back on the scoresheet for the first time in a while. From open play too.

There are positives to take from yesterday. We move on.

Yes….

Not rehashing the positives thread, but so pleased for Ferguson.

I thought Ferdi did really well as well, and think we look more balanced with him on the right.

 

[Skaville]

By backing off he didn’t deal with anything.
2 of the 3 Wolves players were so inept they ran to the same area….

But if he’d have closed Cunha down earlier one of them would have been slipped in.

The strike was pretty fortunate. It was the deflection that took it past Bart. If Dunk was in Igor’s position you’d have fancied him to get a trademark block in.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

But if he’d have closed Cunha down earlier one of them would have been slipped in.

The strike was pretty fortunate. It was the deflection that took it past Bart. If Dunk was in Igor’s position you’d have fancied him to get a trademark block in.

Yes, but from a wider angle with JPvH in the middle and Tariq and Veltman at the back….

Couldn’t agree more re Dunk…..

I think Bart saves it without the deflection.

 

[A1X]

We were ahead with moments to go in injury time, why were we attacking in numbers at all? Just run it into the sodding corner with a mate and leave the rest on the halfway line. The pass was awful but Fab is right, we were naive as f***.

 

[Black Rod]

A £25m signing should be able to play a square pass to a team mate. When he has three team mates, it should be even easier.

You would expect Hollingbury Hawks Under 10s to do it. Hopefully Wieffer improves from here, but =two months into the season and he doesn't look anywhere near good enough.

 

[Springal]

We were ahead with moments to go in injury time, why were we attacking in numbers at all? Just run it into the sodding corner with a mate and leave the rest on the halfway line. The pass was awful but Fab is right, we were naive as f***.

To many players desperate for a goal

 

[portlock seagull]

Omg, have just watched game on MoTD. Disasterous pass…now infamous because of the consequences.

Great to see Evan score again mind!

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

But if he’d have closed Cunha down earlier one of them would have been slipped in.

The strike was pretty fortunate. It was the deflection that took it past Bart. If Dunk was in Igor’s position you’d have fancied him to get a trademark block in.

Or maybe a trademark og?

 

[el punal]

Sure, happier with how we’re playing, but without Hughton keeping us in the division we would not be here….. and the means justified the end for me

I still want to win and agree with @nwgull and your point around trying something, I’m just saying, I wouldn’t have had a problem either if he’d gone towards the corner flag…..

Replying to your first sentence - Chris Hughton did a wonderful job to get us promoted to the Premier League and then enabled us to survive in our first season. Our second season, 2018/19, was a case of us not being relegated because there were three teams worse than us, just. Our survival was down to Crystal Palace, our only win from January to May was at Selhurst Park and Palace overturned Cardiff late on to enable us to survive four points clear before we played Man City in the final game, we lost 4-1 and Cardiff won but were relegated. In the end we escaped demotion by two points.

Much as I like Chris Hughton I feel in that 2018/19 season he’d run out of ideas on how to take the team forward. It got progressively worse with some awful performances. Southampton 0-1, Bournemouth 0-5, Cardiff 0-2, all in short order at home. Then you had Wolves 0-0 and Spurs 0-1 both away where Albion fans got dog’s abuse for the way the team played in parking the proverbial ten buses. So yes, we survived but Chris didn’t as the writing had been on the wall for some time.

 

[DJ NOBO]

In Weiffer’s defence, talk of ‘he has three players to give it to , and then it’s a goal - and he fcked it up’ isn’t fair.
All the glory hunting Albion players (Ferguson excused as he was where he should have been) were in a horizontal line to his left, so there was only one clear pass on - to the nearest albion player to him, in that line. Not too hard for the defender to read that, as he did. It’s a shame one of our guys wasn’t overlapping to Weiffer’s right as the defender would have been screwed. But there wasn’t. In effect The two further down to Ferguson were an irrelevance.
And there is no way you can put the goal on Weiffer. It was a team fck up, starring Weiffer, the glory hunters, Igor and an unlucky deflection.

 

[Rowdey]

I really hope for his sake he offers a public apology and shows what he really can because I and many others can really see what he has to offer. See; NL against Germany last week.

My two memories of him right now as a Brighton supporter is almost giving a goal away against Everton and the pass tonight.

This is coming from someone who has always backed the Dutch players to a tee, but it’s simply not good enough.

Hold on, he was directly involved in the assists for TWO goals in this game - One interception in our own box, and one on half way line..

We can introduce false equivalence and say Yes, he was culpable with the near penalty from Dunk.

I hope i'm not alone in being so needy as to not want a public apology for MW.. As MoTD said, he ran all the way back to atone for his error, and he'll be hurting more than us.

He was shocking in the first half against Everton (I was there so saw it with my own eyes). By far our worst player on the day. Only settled down in second half when they had 10 men.

New binns required, as ONE of the above interceptions and assist was in 1st half, but BOTH were before Everton went to 10..

 

[Surf's Up]

Yup, an absolutely dreadful moment. He’ll be absolutely gutted about it. As bad as we feel about it, it wasn’t our f*** up. He is only too aware that it was his.

He’s having a rocky start to life here, which probably explains why he’s being used sparingly, but this can become a “chicken or egg” situation, where nobody knows if he’s struggling because he’s not really getting minutes, or he’s not really getting minutes because he’s struggling.

He’s wearing the stripes and deserves our support, despite one awful moment yesterday.

For a bit of perspective, it was a draw not a loss, and Ferguson got back on the scoresheet for the first time in a while. From open play too.

There are positives to take from yesterday. We move on.

This, in spades.

 

[drew]

Thoroughly frustrating end and Weiffer will know he should have done better, possibly pass to the nearest player, Ayari who could then either play in Ferguson or back to Weiffer. However, from that position there was still a lot Wolves had to do to score including a lucky deflection.

Let's see what we can do next week!!