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[Albion] Mats Wieffer SINGS on 5 year contract



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He is an international player having played for Holland 10 times. He wins the ball well and will set up a number of breakaways and goal chances for us. It is his distribution that is patchy and he seems to be struggling to come to terms with the pace of the PL. which is understandable. He has not been helped by team members in the last couple of games being well short of their best.
 




mejonaNO12 aka riskit

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Watched the first half. He was good. Lots of interceptions

Just watched highlights in the second. It was his pressuring that led to a chance we SHOULD have scored and then his pressing that won the ball and saw the shot from Ferguson before Adingra scores.

He's not being asked to play your usual DM role. He's very much being asked to press high and appears very good at that. He also intercepted the ball for our 2nd goal at the weekend.

He dared to make a bad mistake at the weekend, which would have been forgotten about if wolves hadn't scored, and now that's tainted him for many which is odd.
 


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agreed

Look at the highlights, very very poor defending and when he lost the ball no effort to regain the ball, he actually seemed to be strolling around in the background and then bends over holding his knees in disappointment when the ball hits the net, very poor.

I will give him the benefit of the doubt and obviously give him time to improve and integrate into not only the Premier League intensity but a new squad and new manager also finding his feet. We obviously bought him for a reason and the analytical checking before we move for a player is seldom wrong, so there is a very good player to emerge given time.
Yes for the their final goal after 90 minutes. I think, am hoping, that is due to a need to become match fit. Perhaps he should have been substituted earlier, like Baleba seems, to be around the hour mark.
 








Gabbiano

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I thought he did fine, not spectacular. I missed the third goal, so can't comment on that.

He'll struggle to recover fan opinion. That was such a jarring incident v Wolves and he's been blamed despite about 4 or 5 players being also at fault.

I still think there's a player there, he's showed it for the Netherlands and Feyenoord. As a defensive midfielder he's probably not going to drop a sparkling display where he scores a Hattrick. He will need a consistent run of solid performances to slowly swing the fans back.

To get that, he needs to displace Baleba, that's the challenge.
 


Seasider78

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Takes a while to adapt to this league where if your first touch is not the best your second is a tackle and the quality of attackers means you are visibly punished for your errors. The same was true of Caicedo, Macallister and Baleba and they were all given time and patience from the fans we just need to show the same with Mats and he will come good
 


BevBHA

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Jan 23, 2017
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Takes a while to adapt to this league where if your first touch is not the best your second is a tackle and the quality of attackers means you are visibly punished for your errors. The same was true of Caicedo, Macallister and Baleba and they were all given time and patience from the fans we just need to show the same with Mats and he will come good
That’s what’s more worrying though, all three of the other players you mentioned had good physical attributes like pace / power / strength etc. We’ve brought Weiffer in for his ability to dictate a game, like a Michael Carrick I suppose. We know he doesn’t have the physical attributes, the trouble is at the moment he also looks shocking technically.
 






tstanbur

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Takes a while to adapt to this league where if your first touch is not the best your second is a tackle and the quality of attackers means you are visibly punished for your errors. The same was true of Caicedo, Macallister and Baleba and they were all given time and patience from the fans we just need to show the same with Mats and he will come good
Agree about MacAllister and Baleba but Caicedo was consistently top class from his first appearance and every game after.

Saw elsewhere that Gross took a fair few games to impress which is a good point too. The difference is he cost peanuts and in a much poorer team so the expectations were much lower.

Hopefully Wieffer can get somewhere near the levels of all of the above.
 
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