Mark McGhee

[algie]

No, he did not lose the MAJORITY of fans. What he lost was a vocal MINORITY who made Dick Knight think he had to sack him. I am a huge DK fan but that decision ranks among his biggest mistakes. Good luck to Mark Mcghee; What he did here was amasing and it's to the great shame of that vocal minority that they forced him out.

Your wrong pal.

 

[Yorkie]

Your wrong pal.

No he's not.

 

[Robot Chicken]

MM did lose the dressing room though

 

[Yorkie]

MM did lose the dressing room though

In your opinion. Did you actually ask the players?

 

[Robot Chicken]

I don't know the players personally but I'm friends with people who know the players.

 

[NMH]

He stuck with stultifying tactics, spoke about player's foibles and disagreements in the press and radio medias. Despite getting a few great results and surprising top teams, we managed to flop completely against some very dull relegation rivals. Sometimes I wondered if we practised ANY moves or tactics in training, and despite getting a decent amount for a couple of sold-on players, there were others with talent that he was alienated with and got little for.
Dull to watch, seemingly nothing redeeming to even hope to see, and he did not understand how to make the team play entertaining football.
At the frustrating end of a frustrating season watching football that was, in my opinion, excrutiating, the squad lost interest and capitulated 5-1 at home to a quite average team ...whereupon he really blew fans minds by excusing the result as "it didn't matter because there was nothing to play for" - while we fans know that the ALBION BADGE, STRIPES and FANS are "something to play for".
Where we have had managers who could inspire the team on sheer passion and energy, Mark Mcghee did not seem to have that side to him.

It's also quite telling that he himself had "nothing to play for" while Brighton were still paying him after he was laid off. Getting back in the game and being involved with football? Nah, he was getting paid to sit and do nothing, so he did just that.

Got us a few decent results and probably surprised himself as well as everyone else to get them.

Personally, I wasn't impressed, and was glad when he went.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Your wrong pal.

Algie, this is an old argument but for last one time:

What is your evidence? Were three or four thousand people at Withdean calling for his head?!! No way. There were no more like a 1000-1500 at most. But they were the vocal ones and DK listened to them.

Of course McGhee made mistakes. Some of his tactical decisions were bizarre and he fell out with players. But never forget he won us promotion against the odds; incredibly kept us in the Championship and made a lot of money for the club through having to sell our best players.

Given his track record in that division and a bit more time last season, it is inconceivable that he wouldn't have turned it round and that we would have finished much higher than we did under Wilkins. But he wasn't given the time and was hounded out. And look what happened then: we very nearly went down.

I'm fully behind Wilkins now but I will always think that MM was unfairly dismissed. I wish him well.

 

[NMH]

Algie, this is an old argument but for last one time:

What is your evidence? Were three or four thousand people at Withdean calling for his head?!! No way. There were no more like a 1000-1500 at most. But they were the vocal ones and DK listened to them.

I was at Withdean not being vocal about "calling for his head", so don't imagine that it was only the ones shouting their discontent that wanted him gone. There were many living in relatively quiet dispair - and if DK thought he was unfairly treated by fans, or had the total dedication of the players - he would NOT have ousted him!

 

[Withdean Wanderer]

No, he did not lose the MAJORITY of fans. What he lost was a vocal MINORITY who made Dick Knight think he had to sack him. I am a huge DK fan but that decision ranks among his biggest mistakes. Good luck to Mark Mcghee; What he did here was amasing and it's to the great shame of that vocal minority that they forced him out.

Agree to an extent - it was only a big mistake because he wasn't properly replaced.

 

[El Presidente]

NSC got McGhee the sack. FACT!

 

[clapham_gull]

In your opinion. Did you actually ask the players?

I would presume he "lost" some of the players, whilst others he did not.

 

[severnside gull]

Good when the job was new and he was fresh..............got stale and tired over time an ultimately had to go.

Sounds like most people in most jobs doesn't it ?

Good luck to him at Motherwell. Don't expect their fans to be excited by the brand of football they play but they will get some results

 

[cannedheat]

Good manager who couldn't keep making a silk purse out of a sow's ear and constantly had his best players sold from under him. Struggled to handle the gangstas at the club and was shamefully dismissed by a chairman who lost his nerve having originally backed him, after consecutive defeats by one goal to a team who got promoted and a team who fell in the playoffs.

He'll do well for you if backed properly by the board of Motherwell

Did Al Capone play for us then.

 

[TonyW]

Just wondered what peoples views are on MM and his abilities? Cheers

Couldn't manage his way out of a paper bag.

Tactically inept, no personality, a zero score in the people skills section.

Destroyer of clubs (each and every one of them he has been associated with).

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO glad he's gone, just should have happened 12 months sooner.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Couldn't manage his way out of a paper bag.

Tactically inept, no personality, a zero score in the people skills section.

Destroyer of clubs (each and every one of them he has been associated with).

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO glad he's gone, just should have happened 12 months sooner.

That is the biggest pile of turd I have ever read.

How exactly did he destroy Wolves, Millwall, Leicester, Reading and Brighton?

You he couldn't manage his way out of a paper bag, yet somehow managed to get us into The Championship and preserve our status against the odds. He also enjoyed successes at his other clubs.

0 score in people skills? I assume you are referring to the Leon saga. Remind me where he is now?

 

[Row Z Creased Shirt]

He's a better manager than some people give him credit for. I thought he did a good job with a very limited resources and had to put up with a lot crap from some unprofessional footballers and a lot of stick from the fans.

Given the hothouse atmosphere at the club at the beginning of last season his position became untenable after a dire performance at Bristol City. Shame really.

 

[¡Cereal Killer!]

He was better than people say he is.

He wasted quite a bit of money on players who very rarely played (Turienzo - £150,000 - played about 10 minutes) and also brought in a fair few crap players.
He also fell out with a few of our top players.

But in all fairness, he wasn't actually a bad manager, he got us promoted to the Championship (then relegated again the next season) but towards the end with numerous spates with players and results going against us, we just needed a change with fresh ideas from a new manager.

I'm sure he will do good at the 'Well but dont expect miracles.

 

[Spunk Bubble]

I think he has found his level by managing a pony Scottish team

 

[TonyW]

That is the biggest pile of turd I have ever read.

How exactly did he destroy Wolves, Millwall, Leicester, Reading and Brighton?

You he couldn't manage his way out of a paper bag, yet somehow managed to get us into The Championship and preserve our status against the odds. He also enjoyed successes at his other clubs.

0 score in people skills? I assume you are referring to the Leon saga. Remind me where he is now?

Try asking their fans, THEY HATE HIM.

He virtually needs a police escort to enter Wolves or Reading's ground.
The Millwall fans think he's an idiot, and Leicester KNOW he's an idiot.

He got us promoted with a squad that was built by previous managers, and even then he could only do it through the play-offs (when even the bookies had us as favourites at the start of the season).

He destroyed one of the best team spirits in the country.
He gave away all our goal scorers, and pissed off nearly every player in the squad (even the ones HE signed and those he had worked with before).

Useless to the Nth degree, and is finally back where he belongs, in non-enitity football!!

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Try asking their fans, THEY HATE HIM.

He virtually needs a police escort to enter Wolves or Reading's ground.
The Millwall fans think he's an idiot, and Leicester KNOW he's an idiot.

He got us promoted with a squad that was built by previous managers, and even then he could only do it through the play-offs (when even the bookies had us as favourites at the start of the season).

He destroyed one of the best team spirits in the country.
He gave away all our goal scorers, and pissed off nearly every player in the squad (even the ones HE signed and those he had worked with before).

Useless to the Nth degree, and is finally back where he belongs, in non-enitity football!!

How did he destroy the other clubs?

Reading 'hate' him as he said he would stay, but then jumped ship - having taken them up to the old Second Division.

His hands were tied, when he was losing influential players left/right/centre due to financial restraints. Of course, he is not the perfect manager and team spirit did suffer. But I don't feel you can lay the blame entirely at his doorstep. Leon was a huge factor in that and creating a divide amongst the squad. Considering he got more out of the player than any other manager has managed would suggest he is not as bad as you think. In hindsight, we may have been better off selling him after the playoff victory.

Gave away all our goalscorers? Which ones? I am thinking Leon, but I can't think of another one.

Finally back where he belongs? He has never managed lower than us or Reading.