[Football] Marcus Rashford. Respect

[beorhthelm]

No those kids wont have to support us with their tax. This is a neo-liberal myth. Tax doesn`t pay for government spending. A government such as ours with its own sovereign currency neither has to tax or borrow. Its not like a household, a local council, a nation in the Eurozone, or a firm, which do have to balance their books. Our government creates new money when it spends and destroys it when it taxes. Thats why tax is called revenue (it returns to the government).

taxation and spending is not a neo-liberal myth, how money traditionally works. you are buying in to a hypothesis of monetary policy that some wish for, so they could have infinite money without consequence. consider why does Eurozone have different monetary structure to UK.

 

[darkwolf666]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53065806

Persistence pays. Superb effort, Marcus - be proud of yourself.

There goes Boris following the mob crying for change, shouting "follow me...". This government is so out of step with public opinion it's unbelievable...

 

[Klaas]

It was a strange thing for the government to fight. In relative terms, it would have cost little to implement (rather like health treatment for NHS workers) but that small amount would have done a lot of good AND be seen as a popular move. By making a stand on it - and then making a U-turn, it makes the government look both hard-hearted and indecisive. Who the hell is advising this government on PR? They're getting just about everything wrong

Right? I thought that Cummings was a (self styled) genius.

 

[Grombleton]

Well, that's Sports Personality Of The Year sorted.

Might as well throw a few quid in for a Nobel prize, Queens Honours list....balls to it, Xmas #1 as well.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Well done Mr Rashford. Can’t stand your team but you are one of my favourite human beings right now!

 

[NooBHA]

No those kids wont have to support us with their tax. This is a neo-liberal myth. Tax doesn`t pay for government spending. A government such as ours with its own sovereign currency neither has to tax or borrow. Its not like a household, a local council, a nation in the Eurozone, or a firm, which do have to balance their books. Our government creates new money when it spends and destroys it when it taxes. Thats why tax is called revenue (it returns to the government).

That wasn't the point I was trying to make

The point I was trying to make was that - For the most part we have 3 Age groups in Society at any one time

1. Children up to the age of 16 who for the most part don't earn and don't pay taxes - Their Educational needs are met by the taxes paid by the Working Population ant Point 2 below

2. The working population who work and pay taxes and create wealth - Their taxes support point 1 above

3. The elderly in receipt of State Pension and that State Pension being paid for by the Working Population at point 2 above. And I know some Pensioners pay tax but it is not the majority of them


My synopsis I know is of course an over simplification but that is essentially how things work in Capitalist Economies. The population at Point 2 above support the people at points 1 and 3

 

[Pevenseagull]

Well, that's Sports Personality Of The Year sorted.

Might as well throw a few quid in for a Nobel prize, Queens Honours list....balls to it, Xmas #1 as well.

It's between him and Tom Moore

 

[Superphil]

Wasn't expecting that at all

 

[Stat Brother]

Wasn't expecting that at all

You weren't expecting this government to be shown up as complete heartless penny pinching scumbags, with total disregard for the poorest and most vulnerable.

Only to then do a full U-turn because they were shamed into it.


To be honest this was the only thing I was expecting today.

 

[Stat Brother]

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[Jimmy Grimble]

It takes a special government to come off looking worse than professional footballers in the eyes of the media/public during a pandemic.

Well done Rashford.

 

[Gwylan]

The Labour Party's PR team haven't been great either. I suspect that, as good as Rashford's intervention was, the real reason by the government was Labour's motion on this - one that several Tory MPs said that they were going to support. Johnson climbed down rather than face a parliamentary defeat. It should have been a triumph for the Labour Party but they've made it look as Rashford has done all the running and Labour has jumped on the bandwagon.

It wouldn't have happened in Campbell's day

EDIT: As if to prove my point, the party has put out the most cloth-eared tweet possible, talking about the success of its campaign.

Both the Tories and the Labour party should be able to hire the best PR and social media professionals going - why does it look like they're in the hands of a couple of interns?

 

[*Gullsworth*]

The Labour Party's PR team haven't been great either. I suspect that, as good as Rashford's intervention was, the real reason by the government was Labour's motion on this - one that several Tory MPs said that they were going to support. Johnson climbed down rather than face a parliamentary defeat. It should have been a triumph for the Labour Party but they've made it look as Rashford has done all the running and Labour has jumped on the bandwagon.

It wouldn't have happened in Campbell's day

I expect on this one though they are happy to let young Marcus take the plaudits and let the real beneficiaries be the youngsters who will have their lives improved a little. Common sense is the winner here and Labour will be happy to have supported a cause which their political opponents had to U turn or face a public backlash.

 

[LlcoolJ]

Right? I thought that Cummings was a (self styled) genius.

Cummings is clearly VERY good at targeting the stupid and getting them to vote for what he wants.

He's also clearly shit at everything else.

 

[Stat Brother]

Cummings is clearly VERY good at targeting the stupid and getting them to vote for what he wants.

He's also clearly shit at everything else.

I'm not so sure Dommy Cum-Cum is that good at targeting, unless he's had a Land Rover eye test first.

 

[A1X]

Well, that's Sports Personality Of The Year sorted.

Might as well throw a few quid in for a Nobel prize, Queens Honours list....balls to it, Xmas #1 as well.

Nah no chance, picked by the Government and he's just humiliated them.

 

[Goldstone1976]

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Either Marcus Rashford can't spell his own name, or you might have been had...

 

[Stat Brother]

Either Marcus Rashford can't spell his own name, or you might have been had...

The point still stands, irrespective who says it.

 

[Goldstone1976]

The point still stands, irrespective who says it.

For sure.

 

[Fungus]

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it's not him, but it's probably what he thought.

[sorry, beaten to it]