Man Utd Fan Stabbed

[patchamalbion]

Why on earth not? Because I wouldn't even want to risk it even if there is only a 0.000001% chance of my child/children getting involved with any of this, You only need to look at the how many people get stabbed/killed in Rome every year to know its not a place for young children.
The city has great culture and is a great, great place but the shear amount of thugs and general violence in the city ruins it, you are constantly looking over your shoulder.
I just like to know I can walk down the street and not have to worry about my families safety.

but if you live like that your kids would be wrapped in cotton wall and be sitting in the living room? how about day trips to London etc,are they out the question? Rome's crime rate is about the same as any other large European city surely? everyone has experiences but i went to Rome and didnt feel unsafe once,and i was there on New Years eve which is pretty crazy out there

 

[sten_super]

But the dispute they had is entirely relevant. If I get stabbed by some nazi skin head who is offended I'm OK with black people, and I happen to be wearing a muppet t-shirt is it a muppet related incident? Can I sue jim hensen's estate?

The clothes the guy was wearing is irrelevant. The reason he was stabbed is what dicatates whether it is football related or not. Chances are, it was.

Perhaps there is some pissed of Italian fed up with drunk brits stabbed the guy, not because he was a man utd fan, not because he was wearing the shit, not because of football, but because of the behaviour of brits abroad.

Maybe it was some mentally unstable austrian who was passing through and thought the guy was a rabid gorilla on the attack. It wouldn't have been a football stabbing, it would have been a random crazy stabbing.

I agree that the reason for the dispute is relevant. But any problem may well have been worsened by the current proliferation of drunk Brits currently in Rome due to the football.

I think we can all agree that odds on it was a football related incident. Of course, if it is not, then maybe we should all apologise for slagging off UEFA.

 

[eastlondonseagull]

UEFA has now got blood on its hands. There is NO WAY Rome should EVER host a Champions League final with the track record of regular stabbings in that city. It was just waiting to happen, absolutely inevitable.

They still could have switched the venue when it became apparent MONTHS ago that once again an english team would be in the Final. But no, they still let it go ahead, where everyone knows damn well the Italian fans will be once again engaging in their stabby-stabby game which they particularly enjoy against english fans. This will NOT be the last stabbing today, you can guarantee it. Someone is walking around Rome right now who will, later on, be fightnig for his life in hospital.

Still, its only football fans. Not like Platini and his bigwig sponsors will be exposed to the Italian nutters around that staduim today and tonight is it.

Well said, Easy
.

 

[NF9]

I've only heard about the man utd fan being stabbed, not who did it. I made assumptions.



Except it's not really.



Stabbings happen everywhere. Families haven't left London, families don't stop going to London.

Rome is a historic city, a pretty city, full of culture, art, it typically has warmer weather than Britain, tremendous architecture, the coliseum.

He was slashed in the thigh/bum and that is where the local thugs like to stap people read up on it, and when Roma played Man United alot of stabbings occurred, If you think its a coincidence then more fool you.

 

[CHAPPERS]

Yes and I had no trouble, the people are generally nice but its not somewhere to take a family considering all the stabbings ect that happen in the city not to mention the Mafia's, and I wouldn't take my children there.
Can I ask you why its a good destination for families?

Spaz.

 

[User removed 4]

I must be really missing something...



Wozza asked a perfectly legitimate question. (Could have been a guy on holiday who was being mugged, could have been man utd fan who upon arriving in rome saw the guy who slept with his wife and they had an argument, etc.)
Itszamora doesn't see any other possibility for football, and with the exclamation mark seemsa little patronising.
Wozza put forward other alternatives and asked for where itszamora got his information from
Itszamora answered.

Hardly pompous, hardly something to laugh at, or celebrate as 'the perfect reply'.

yeah right, you're missing something.

 

[Acker79]

He was slashed in the thigh/bum and that is where the local thugs like to stap people read up on it, and when Roma played Man United alot of stabbings occurred, If you think its a coincidence then more fool you.

Read my posts again. I've made it clear I believe it is likely football related, but that asking if we're sure it's football related isn't a ridiculous question, that there are alternative explanations.

 

[NF9]

but if you live like that your kids would be wrapped in cotton wall and be sitting in the living room? how about day trips to London etc,are they out the question? Rome's crime rate is about the same as any other large European city surely? everyone has experiences but i went to Rome and didnt feel unsafe once,and i was there on New Years eve which is pretty crazy out there

Check the crime rates more thoroughly my friend, and its not about rapping them in cotton wool its about not putting them under any risk of getting hurt.

 

[NF9]

Spaz.

 

[Easy 10]

Check the crime rates more thoroughly my friend, and its not about rapping them in cotton wool its about not putting them under any risk of getting hurt.

How many reports of children getting stabbed in Rome have you seen lately then ? Cos I'm struggling a bit.

"Look love, I've won an all-expenses paid weekend trip to Rome for the family. Pack the cases, get the kids ready..."
"Are you MAD ? I'm not taking Tarquin and Flapella somewhere they might get STABBED".

- would that be you ?

 

[patchamalbion]

Check the crime rates more thoroughly my friend, and its not about rapping them in cotton wool its about not putting them under any risk of getting hurt.

seriously? so you would be walking around Rome worried about getting stabbed? thats crazy...their ultras cowardly slash at visiting fans but the city isn't a knife crime hotspot...London is worse

 

[itszamora]

Bloody hell, sorry to have played a part in setting this off!

 

[Happy Seagull]

Bloody hell, sorry to have played a part in setting this off!

Under new guidelines you now are close to being banned

 

[The Spanish]

Families haven't left London

speechless! People are shipping out in droves due to the disgusting idiotic culture of violence that pervades the streets and schools of inner London.

 

[Acker79]

speechless! People are shipping out in droves due to the disgusting idiotic culture of violence that pervades the streets and schools of inner London.

Little misunderstanding here. When I say 'families haven't left london' I meant London isn't a city in which there are no families whatsoever.

Of course individual families have left london. Individual families have left brighton, individual families have left plymouth, burgess hill, crawley, paris, new york, everywhere. Families move around, follow work, move to get in catchment areas for better schools, better hospital districts, fewer students, more familes etc.

 

[Hungry Joe]

Little misunderstanding here. When I say 'families haven't left london' I meant London isn't a city in which there are no families whatsoever.

Of course individual families have left london. Individual families have left brighton, individual families have left plymouth, burgess hill, crawley, paris, new york, everywhere. Families move around, follow work, move to get in catchment areas for better schools, better hospital districts, fewer students, more familes etc.

There's playing Devil's Advocate at every opportunity and there's being a div.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

If you go to a football match and don't act like a twat nothing will happen. This man was probably asking for it and very drunk.

I sincerely hope this post doesnt come back to haunt you.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Families are more than likely to leave London, aren't they? In search of a bigger garden or perhaps feel that a large city is not the ideal place to bring up children.

Besides, Mr Spanglish, do you have figures for this mass exodus?

 

[The Spanish]

Families are more than likely to leave London, aren't they? In search of a bigger garden or perhaps feel that a large city is not the ideal place to bring up children.

Besides, Mr Spanglish, do you have figures for this mass exodus?

haha yes where are the figures! we must disprove speculation with the power of figures and fully accredited press association reports!

people on here are BONKERS. So up themselves and studenty its untrue.

 

[Commander]

Why on earth not? Because I wouldn't even want to risk it even if there is only a 0.000001% chance of my child/children getting involved with any of this, You only need to look at the how many people get stabbed/killed in Rome every year to know its not a place for young children.
The city has great culture and is a great, great place but the shear amount of thugs and general violence in the city ruins it, you are constantly looking over your shoulder.
I just like to know I can walk down the street and not have to worry about my families safety.

Quite possibly the most ridiculous post I have read on here for a long time, and that takes some doing.

a) When you take your kids on holiday would they be wandering the streets in the early hours?
b) Please advise of one of these crime free cities you go on family holidays to as I would like to move there

Thanks