Man Utd Fan Stabbed

[Stat Brother]

The Italians seem to have a thing for slashing people across the arse with a Stanley (or Italian equivalent)

err is that not, Stanlei.

 

[keaton]

UEFA has now got blood on its hands. There is NO WAY Rome should EVER host a Champions League final with the track record of regular stabbings in that city. It was just waiting to happen, absolutely inevitable.

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You think Rome's a bad choice, next year it's in London, the stabbing capital of the world!

 

[Digweeds Trousers]

*wanders past and sees the beginnings of binfest - pulls up chair and opens picnic bag with cold San MIguels - offers them round. Settles down and gets comfortable*

 

[NF9]

*Walks in, Says hello and then Kills everyone with an atomic bomb*

 

[Acker79]

True. Hell of a coincidence if not though.

Not really.

Man Utd shirts are everywhere, why wouldn't they be in rome? English people often wear their football shirts on holiday. Rome is a top european holiday destination, it's half term week at most schools, so lots of families go on holiday.

A family arrange a holiday in Rome for the school holiday. Guy happens to be a "man utd fan" not necessarily the sort that goes to the games, or passionately supports them, but one who wears the shirt.

He's there on holiday, a Barcelona fan sees him, assumes he's there for the football and trouble ensues.

It's not really a stretch, we don't need great leaps for these things to happen.


Having said that, it is more likely that he is there for the football, but, we shouldn't jump to conclusions.

 

[Scotty Mac]

You think Rome's a bad choice, next year it's in London, the stabbing capital of the world!

luckily, football fans in london dont tend to go around looking for opposition supporters to knife

 

[NF9]

Not really.

Man Utd shirts are everywhere, why wouldn't they be in rome? English people often wear their football shirts on holiday. Rome is a top european holiday destination, it's half term week at most schools, so lots of families go on holiday.

A family arrange a holiday in Rome for the school holiday. Guy happens to be a "man utd fan" not necessarily the sort that goes to the games, or passionately supports them, but one who wears the shirt.

He's there on holiday, a Barcelona fan sees him, assumes he's there for the football and trouble ensues.

It's not really a stretch, we don't need great leaps for these things to happen.


Having said that, it is more likely that he is there for the football, but, we shouldn't jump to conclusions.

First of all Its not barcelona fans who are causing the trouble its Italian hardcore fans of certain clubs, Secondly your whole story sounds so far fetched I mean a Man United fan In rome, Around the time of the CPL final is only their for one reason.
And if you think Rome is a family holiday destination you are VERY, very wrong indeed.

 

[Happy Seagull]

luckily, football fans in london dont tend to go around looking for opposition supporters to knife

Unless they're black

 

[sten_super]

Not really.

Man Utd shirts are everywhere, why wouldn't they be in rome? English people often wear their football shirts on holiday. Rome is a top european holiday destination, it's half term week at most schools, so lots of families go on holiday.

A family arrange a holiday in Rome for the school holiday. Guy happens to be a "man utd fan" not necessarily the sort that goes to the games, or passionately supports them, but one who wears the shirt.

He's there on holiday, a Barcelona fan sees him, assumes he's there for the football and trouble ensues.

It's not really a stretch, we don't need great leaps for these things to happen.


Having said that, it is more likely that he is there for the football, but, we shouldn't jump to conclusions.

It's a moot point though. It's football related because the reason he's been stabbed is because he's wearing a Man Utd shirt at a time at which Man Utd are playing there. Whether he actually was there for the football or not is completely irrelevant.

 

[Arthur]

And if you think Rome is a family holiday destination you are VERY, very wrong indeed.

Have you ever been to Rome? I'm guessing not!

 

[NF9]

Have you ever been to Rome? I'm guessing not!

Yes and I had no trouble, the people are generally nice but its not somewhere to take a family considering all the stabbings ect that happen in the city not to mention the Mafia's, and I wouldn't take my children there.
Can I ask you why its a good destination for families?

 

[Acker79]

wozza was pretty pompously asking where you got your information from, and you gave the perfect reply " newswires
, im a journalist ", really no comeback to that is there ?

I must be really missing something...

Wozza: Do we know the incident is football related?
Itszamora: Well, he wouldn't have been there if it weren't for football!
Wozza: Really? So he's not on holiday? Doesn't live there? Where are you getting the facts from?
Itszamora: Newswires, because I'm a journalist. Was staying in a hotel near the Vatican apparently.

Wozza asked a perfectly legitimate question. (Could have been a guy on holiday who was being mugged, could have been man utd fan who upon arriving in rome saw the guy who slept with his wife and they had an argument, etc.)
Itszamora doesn't see any other possibility for football, and with the exclamation mark seemsa little patronising.
Wozza put forward other alternatives and asked for where itszamora got his information from
Itszamora answered.

Hardly pompous, hardly something to laugh at, or celebrate as 'the perfect reply'.

 

[El Presidente]

yet again a english football fan has been stabbed in Rome, this is the 3rd time in 3 matches involving english teams in Rome, that a english fan has been stabbed.

And they say we have problems.

Why oh why oh WHY can't the fans behave like the paragons of virtue from Rangers who kindly turned Manchester into a bigoted toilet for 12 hours for the UEFA final last year.

 

[patchamalbion]

Yes and I had no trouble, the people are generally nice but its not somewhere to take a family considering all the stabbings ect that happen in the city not to mention the Mafia's, and I wouldn't take my children there.
Can I ask you why its a good destination for families?

you wouldnt take your children to Rome? why an earth not? its a brilliant city,im sure the day i have children i wouldnt think twice about taking my kids to rome if the opportunity arose

 

[Acker79]

It's a moot point though. It's football related because the reason he's been stabbed is because he's wearing a Man Utd shirt at a time at which Man Utd are playing there. Whether he actually was there for the football or not is completely irrelevant.

But the dispute they had is entirely relevant. If I get stabbed by some nazi skin head who is offended I'm OK with black people, and I happen to be wearing a muppet t-shirt is it a muppet related incident? Can I sue jim hensen's estate?

The clothes the guy was wearing is irrelevant. The reason he was stabbed is what dicatates whether it is football related or not. Chances are, it was.

Perhaps there is some pissed of Italian fed up with drunk brits stabbed the guy, not because he was a man utd fan, not because he was wearing the shit, not because of football, but because of the behaviour of brits abroad.

Maybe it was some mentally unstable austrian who was passing through and thought the guy was a rabid gorilla on the attack. It wouldn't have been a football stabbing, it would have been a random crazy stabbing.

 

[Mellotron]

Hang on...people are mentioning Ultras, but when I questioned whether any violence was ever linked to the Ultras at all in a thread months back, I was firmly shouted down.

So? Ultras...violent? No?

 

[NF9]

you wouldnt take your children to Rome? why an earth not? its a brilliant city,im sure the day i have children i wouldnt think twice about taking my kids to rome if the opportunity arose

Why on earth not? Because I wouldn't even want to risk it even if there is only a 0.000001% chance of my child/children getting involved with any of this, You only need to look at the how many people get stabbed/killed in Rome every year to know its not a place for young children.
The city has great culture and is a great, great place but the shear amount of thugs and general violence in the city ruins it, you are constantly looking over your shoulder.
I just like to know I can walk down the street and not have to worry about my families safety.

 

[Arthur]

Yes and I had no trouble, the people are generally nice but its not somewhere to take a family considering all the stabbings ect that happen in the city not to mention the Mafia's, and I wouldn't take my children there.

I wouldn't know a source for the stats or whether it's true or not but I'd be willing to have a bet that knife and gun crime is probably worse in London at the moment. Would you take you kids to London?

You appear to be basing your opinions on how many football fans have been stabbed over the last few years and the Godfather movies.

Can I ask you why its a good destination for families?

You've been there and you need me to answer that?? Ok. It's pretty much on the coast, it's STEEPED in history, it's warm(er than here) allot of the year need me to go on?

 

[Highfields Seagull]

Why on earth not? Because I wouldn't even want to risk it even if there is only a 0.000001% chance of my child/children getting involved with any of this,

Do you let them leave the house?

 

[Acker79]

First of all Its not barcelona fans who are causing the trouble its Italian hardcore fans of certain clubs,

I've only heard about the man utd fan being stabbed, not who did it. I made assumptions.

Secondly your whole story sounds so far fetched I mean a Man United fan In rome, Around the time of the CPL final is only their for one reason.

Except it's not really.

Yes and I had no trouble, the people are generally nice but its not somewhere to take a family considering all the stabbings ect that happen in the city not to mention the Mafia's, and I wouldn't take my children there.

Stabbings happen everywhere. Families haven't left London, families don't stop going to London.

Rome is a historic city, a pretty city, full of culture, art, it typically has warmer weather than Britain, tremendous architecture, the coliseum.