Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[Albion Dan]

There's one dull self-aggrandising old crank that I thought I'd seen the back of.

There it is again. The good old tactic of dismissing anyone who presents an alternative view as a crank/weirdo/nutter.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

There it is again. The good old tactic of dismissing anyone who presents an alternative view as a crank/weirdo/nutter.

Are you familiar with Starkey?

 

[Weststander]

Are you familiar with Starkey?

Onto something positive.

How’s Germany looking with regards to travel and holidays?

I saw that there’s an alliance with Austria and the Czech Republic to allow mutual open borders for all travel and holidays.

With the head of Tourism planning for Balearics type holidays to be feasible this summer. With a pilot scheme starting in late June including TUI.

Looks promising for you.

 

[clapham_gull]

Indeed. Too many people won’t accept an alternative scenario to the lock down narrative was an option thanks to the extreme fear porn pumped to the nation by mainstream media though.

Just another nasty neo liberal do as I want and **** everyone else rentagob.

I see David Starkey has found the last person who actually listens to a word he says.

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[Machiavelli]

There it is again. The good old tactic of dismissing anyone who presents an alternative view as a crank/weirdo/nutter.

Twaddle. My work involves identifying a range of different views, and consulting them. It's usually best to find the best exponents of certain viewpoints, and Starkey isn't one of them even by a long way. He's just an archetypal, petty rent-a-gob whose output will be sidelined as soon as the media stop giving him a platform.

 

[clapham_gull]

There it is again. The good old tactic of dismissing anyone who presents an alternative view as a crank/weirdo/nutter.

He is definitely something else beginning with C.



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[RossyG]

Clever?

 

[Albion Dan]

Correct?

 

[clapham_gull]

Clever?

Correct?

He is a right wing, neo liberal, historian. More famous for having controversial views rather than having particularly interesting to say. Glad you found him.

Just another privileged **** everyone else I'll do as I like commentator who sees the lock down as "health and safety gone mad". Add to the list Allison Pearson, Toby Young and numerous others.

None of them have anything to add scientifically on a global pandemic unless you are sucked in by something with a posh accent and an education in a completely unrelated subject.

It's clear to anyone with half a brain cell that testing and tracking gets us out of this. That unfortunately frazzles their neo-liberal brains too, so their only solution is to let a few hundred thousand die.

It helps when he isn't challenged by the interviewer. Within minutes of the interview he states something as "an exclusive" which is complete bollocks. Did you spot it ?

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Was going to post this link in the Good News thread, but was inappropriate, do you think the analysis is overly negative?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/willia...ord-covid-vaccine-work-in-monkeys-not-really/

 

[Albion Dan]

Yet another example of YouTube censorship of a man highly qualified to have an opinion and removed for presenting the argument that lockdowns are not the correct approach.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/16/youtu...mpaign=site buttons&__twitter_impression=true

 

[Guinness Boy]

*wanders in*

Same three cranks wanting to do exactly as they please and screw everyone else? Check.

*shakes head*

*goes back to main board*


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[Solid at the back]

*wanders in*

Same three cranks wanting to do exactly as they please and screw everyone else? Check.

*shakes head*

*goes back to main board*


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This. Getting tiresome now. They're very persistent

 

[Solid at the back]

Was going to post this link in the Good News thread, but was inappropriate, do you think the analysis is overly negative?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/willia...ord-covid-vaccine-work-in-monkeys-not-really/

I saw that yesterday, wasn't toonsure what to think. Noises coming from this country are fairly positive. Although Johnsons comments yesterday and Vallance's the other day, maybe prepping us for bad news?

 

[Bold Seagull]

Professor on radio4 just now saying we’re well behind other countries setting their self isolating symptoms list. He was saying things like loss of taste and smell amoung others have been added to the list of Covid symptoms, and yet we’re relaxing rules BUT not updating the symptoms list.

 

[oldboyroy]

I honestly think the virus is fading out it seems that despite relaxation of rules the infection rate is continuing to fall despite massive testing now and it would not surprise me if what we had over last 2 months WAS our 2nd wave and many had some mutation of the virus over xmas and new year.

 

[Napper]

amazing how many experts there are on " a second wave" , its something we are told by the so called experts / politicians

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

He is a right wing, neo liberal, historian. More famous for having controversial views rather than having particularly interesting to say. Glad you found him.

Just another privileged **** everyone else I'll do as I like commentator who sees the lock down as "health and safety gone mad". Add to the list Allison Pearson, Toby Young and numerous others.

None of them have anything to add scientifically on a global pandemic unless you are sucked in by something with a posh accent and an education in a completely unrelated subject.

It's clear to anyone with half a brain cell that testing and tracking gets us out of this. That unfortunately frazzles their neo-liberal brains too, so their only solution is to let a few hundred thousand die.

It helps when he isn't challenged by the interviewer. Within minutes of the interview he states something as "an exclusive" which is complete bollocks. Did you spot it ?

Good stuff. What's even more frightening is that the country is now being run by two of these specimens - Johnson and Gove. They've done f-all in their lives other than been given a platform by the right wing press to air their views. What makes it slightly worse is that Gove's missus is still doing it. We've got a journocracy.

 

[Jim in the West]

Professor on radio4 just now saying we’re well behind other countries setting their self isolating symptoms list. He was saying things like loss of taste and smell amoung others have been added to the list of Covid symptoms, and yet we’re relaxing rules BUT not updating the symptoms list.

Basically it seems to be a way of limiting the number of tests they have to do (at least until the testing capacity is properly ramped up). The FT last week was reporting people being refused the test if they had loss of taste/smell.

 

[RossyG]

It's clear to anyone with half a brain cell that testing and tracking gets us out of this. That unfortunately frazzles their neo-liberal brains too, so their only solution is to let a few hundred thousand die.

Still people are parroting Prof Ferguson’s nonsense. He said 80,000+ would die in Sweden. Has that happened? No. Nowhere near.

How many cancer patients will die because of this lockdown? And how many old people will give up the will to live?





Not to mention the economic devastation that’ll cause death and misery for years to come. And for what? A disease that so far has killed fewer people under 40 with no preexisting morbidities than are killed by lightning each year.