Someone should have told them to stay alert.
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- Thread starter GingerBeerMan
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Someone should have told them to stay alert.
No.
What people are saying is they should be done separately so we have a real picture of whats going on.
1. Whats going on in the care homes and how affected they are - stop hiding behind the national figure and confront the issue.
2. Areas we need to shelter
Machiavelli
Well-known member
I agree with what you're saying here, and that was precisely the point I was making, so are you claiming that I am being unfair, or those that think the R-rate shouldn't include care homes and hospitals are being unfair?
Edit: there's an example directly above^
Machiavelli
Well-known member
The R-rate is difficult enough to calculate in the first place, but you want it to be disaggregated. Well, you're asking for the impossible, so we can quietly ignore you on this particular point.
If its that difficult why are we even bothering with it?
Add it to all the other pointless inaccurate stats then till we start testing properly,
We were just having a wood burning stove fitted when lockdown arrived, so we've been without fire or stove for the duration (lucky though, with the weather we've had). Stoveman got in touch this week to come back and finish in a few weeks' time. Brother-in-law is a painter/decorator - starts again next week. Does seem as though most sole tradesman are up and running again - which was presumably what Boris intended by telling people to 'get back to work'. Much of this can easily be done whilst maintaining social distancing and cleaning - but it's a real shame about the traffic, lockdown has been fantastic for that.
https://www.pri.org/stories/2020-05-13/madagascar-defends-coronavirus-herbal-remedy
Interesting. I know a pretty huge sentiment of the western population believes nothing ever works unless its made by white people in a lab, but local remedies from all over the world should be investigated.
Interesting. I know a pretty huge sentiment of the western population believes nothing ever works unless its made by white people in a lab, but local remedies from all over the world should be investigated.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
Google 'Manto Tshabalala-Msimang' or 'Dr Beetroot' and come back to this.
Ok since she ****ed up, it must mean every African solution to anything must be useless.
However, google thalidomide, and you'll find some bad results as well. With your logic, all western medicine must be shit.
We're doomed.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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your logic fails. because of thalidomide we test everything, both for efficacy and safety, and then for specific therapies. so we dont simply allow any old remedy to be offically prescribed in case it does nothing (so people dont take other, better therapies) or has negative effects on significant number of people. there will be investigations in to all sorts of old herbal remedies, but because the testing process is quite expensive companies are reluctant to invest in something they cant secure revenue from. the real problem with the west is we became quite litigious, people will scream for a lawyer if their loved one got ill from President Rajoelina's special remedy.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 36,015
dont know, probably mis-interpretation. we can agree to agreee.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
I don't need to Google 'Thalidomide' as I'm fully aware, as already pointed out to you, that the Medicines Act of 1968 was introduced here as an act of parliament following on from it.
I have lived on the African continent for 2 years and their solutions are far from being universally useless, but I certainly didn't go near traditional African medicine that had not been clinically tested for anything whenever I felt under the weather - I'd pop along to the chemist. (but not on a Friday lunchtime as they'd most likely be at Friday prayers and therefore closed)
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
- 72,327
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-52696751
Coronavirus not a big fan of increased levels of sunlight then?
Coronavirus not a big fan of increased levels of sunlight then?
oldboyroy
Well-known member
I think the UK has finally cracked it lowest death figures since went into lockdown hopefully the disease has run its course.
The Wizard
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- Jul 2, 2009
- 18,399
Out and about on my regugar preston Park jog, police turned up and were having words with large groups playing sports and I would say the majority of people were in groups of 3+ not the number permitted, police were basically forced into giving up and leaving as too many. I do hope the community infection rate is low, appears people have given up even caring now.
Herd immunity here we come?
Herd immunity here we come?
Albion Dan
Banned
Just been out for a bike round in Southwark and lots of people out, shops open, not too dissimilar to a normal sunny Sunday but with less traffic. Let’s hope transmission stays low enough to keep NHS capacity good then we can finally start proper recovery. Meanwhile those maximum lock down countries who shut their borders will be totally stuck.
Albion Dan
Banned
Indeed. Too many people won’t accept an alternative scenario to the lock down narrative was an option thanks to the extreme fear porn pumped to the nation by mainstream media though.
Machiavelli
Well-known member
It isn't so difficult that it should be abandoned. You seem to want either no statistical evidence, or extremely complex statistical evidence. And the R-rate is not pointless, it's about the most relevant statistic for analysing the spread of the virus, and its de/intensification.
And, yes, we do need to start testing properly -- it's what WHO have been advising all along -- but our government hasn't got round to boosting capacity.
Machiavelli
Well-known member
There's one dull self-aggrandising old crank that I thought I'd seen the back of.