Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[Wozza]

Up to 798 from 590 - increase of 35%. Should firmly hit 1k tomorrow. 4 weeks behind Italy you say?!?

So 10,000 by next Saturday (but many unrecorded so we'll never really know). And something like 400 deaths?

 

[Swansman]

Im trying not to think about how getting locked inside the apartment for the whole summer would affect the mental health of people living in northern Europe... 8 months of darkness and then locked up once the sun is visiting... could be a very long year this

 

[Bozza]

So 10,000 by next Saturday (but many unrecorded so we'll never really know). And something like 400 deaths?

One of the key differences between the UK and Italy that I heard on the radio today, was that Italy's outbreak was very much focused on a relatively small geographical area, so local health resources were overwhelmed.

The UK has a more even geographical spread so just looking at the raw numbers, like for like, isn't quite a true comparison.

 

[Nobby]

My daughter has been getting increasingly bad migraines and headaches

She finally made an appointment for next week to get looked at and it’s just been cancelled. “Due to Coronavirus”

Also other doctors surgeries now doing mostly telephone consultations and not face to face.

I thought yesterday’s announcement was to keep minor virus sufferers at home and to try and keep the rest of the Health Service moving.

Worrying times indeed

 

[Nobby]

I guess I would be considered in the “at risk” group - in my seventies with heart problems and diabetic. However I don’t see how I can possibly reduce my risk in the long term.

If 80% of the general population are likely to become infectious over the next few months how am I supposed to avoid totally, contact with either other individuals or contaminated surfaces? It’s simply not practical. It’s not the same as self isolation for a couple of weeks by those who may have the virus - we’re talking months.

THIS!!

I’ve been trying to reduce my risk but can’t see how I can for any long term period

Strategy stinks for people like us

If 60% get it, we’re about a 20 to 25% risk of meeting St Peter so I reckon that gives us an overall 1 in 15 chance of being N ex Albion fan

Not great odds

 

[Wozza]

One of the key differences between the UK and Italy that I heard on the radio today, was that Italy's outbreak was very much focused on a relatively small geographical area, so local health resources were overwhelmed.

The UK has a more even geographical spread so just looking at the raw numbers, like for like, isn't quite a true comparison.

I simply multipled number of known cases by 30% each day - but, yes, mortality rate could be much lower.

 

[Wozza]

Official - ISIS can work from home!

https://twitter.com/glcarlstrom/status/1238494501523636231?s=20

[tweet]1238494501523636231[/tweet]

 

[Dick Head]

Sounds like either the white flag going up or they think the number may induce panic.

Or they just lost count?

 

[Wozza]

Italy death toll jumps by 250 in one day to 1,266.

 

[goldstone]

Still sticking with my opinion that it's mass hysteria.

What should have been done is the following:
- those most a risk (old and infirm) self isolate from the start
- everyone else go about life as normal taking the same precautions as you would against any other kind of flu (hand washing)

A few thousand people would have caught the disease, but as it's milder than normal flu for healthy people it would hardly have been the end of the world.

Outcome:
The world economies would not be in meltdown
People would not be losing their jobs
Companies would not be going out of business
We wouldn't be bored shitless by coronavirus dominating the news.

Sorted. I definitely should be ruling the world.

 

[knocky1]

Take me for example, i am self-isolating today. Last night got bad headache, slight cough and sore throat, felt weak coupled with runny nose. All week my 8 year old had been off school with a bad cough. So I'm suspecting. Today the headache is pretty bad, but it's 5pm and no fever yet. So I am starting to feel pretty confident I don't have it, because I would expect a 45 year old guy like me to get a fever at least, and for that to have kicked in by now. But I don't know....

So yes, your point is valid. But I do agree with the herd immunity concept.

I've been keeping out the way all week. Head, throat and now chest but no fever or coughing.. Just like yourself. Arteta didn't seem to suffer much and says he is on the mend. More info. needed on the mild version of the virus.
Hope I've got it out the way.............

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

I guess I would be considered in the “at risk” group - in my seventies with heart problems and diabetic. However I don’t see how I can possibly reduce my risk in the long term.

If 80% of the general population are likely to become infectious over the next few months how am I supposed to avoid totally, contact with either other individuals or contaminated surfaces? It’s simply not practical. It’s not the same as self isolation for a couple of weeks by those who may have the virus - we’re talking months.

So, I suppose you're right that they're is a limit to how long you can shut yourself away from society. But let's say you can do a month, and so can everyone else. If we shut down schools, and offices, and bars and restaurants, and everyone tries to stay at home, when you finally emerge you are going to be surrounded by people who haven't had it yet and then it will spread once again, and the odds of you eventually getting it will be high. Alternatively, if everyone else keeps doing their thing, the bug will spread around and the people you meet are more likely to be the recovered infected and thus not a risk.

To be honest though this sounds the complete opposite of the 'flatten the curve' strategy, so I don't know if this is really what's intended. Just take it safe and avoid people for the next few months.

Watch all those box sets you always wanted to. Just a shame we can't binge on sport.

 

[Rugrat]

You can only fly to La Gomera from Tenerife?!

Correct ... and the south airport is still landing planes every 5 minutes stuffed with tourists from all over Europe. I can't even begin to rationalise it

 

[Bold Seagull]

One of the key differences between the UK and Italy that I heard on the radio today, was that Italy's outbreak was very much focused on a relatively small geographical area, so local health resources were overwhelmed.

The UK has a more even geographical spread so just looking at the raw numbers, like for like, isn't quite a true comparison.

The other thing Italy didn't do was identify they had a problem until it was too late. I think they had a couple of deaths before they even identified they had a case. So by the time they realised your exponential spreadsheet was happening unchecked, probably for at least 8 days or more.

We on the other hand did identify cases early, and such as the Hove Super Spreader, threw resources at tracking contacts and informing them to isolate. Yeah, it's growing, but we've very much slowed it through diligent work behind the scenes.

 

[Algernon]

Official - ISIS can work from home!

https://twitter.com/glcarlstrom/status/1238494501523636231?s=20

[tweet]1238494501523636231[/tweet]

I'm surprised they haven't claimed responsibility for it.

 

[Mellotron]

Am now aware of a friend of my wife’s parents who has been diagnosed with the virus. He was already in hospital regarding something else.

My wife’s father is now presenting mild symptoms (mild cold and temperature), so we have decided against visiting them up in Nottingham this weekend.

 

[Nobby]

Still sticking with my opinion that it's mass hysteria.

What should have been done is the following:
- those most a risk (old and infirm) self isolate from the start
- everyone else go about life as normal taking the same precautions as you would against any other kind of flu (hand washing)

A few thousand people would have caught the disease, but as it's milder than normal flu for healthy people it would hardly have been the end of the world.

Outcome:
The world economies would not be in meltdown
People would not be losing their jobs
Companies would not be going out of business
We wouldn't be bored shitless by coronavirus dominating the news.

Sorted. I definitely should be ruling the world.

Your world would certainly be flowing with milk and honey....

 

[sparkie]

Correct ... and the south airport is still landing planes every 5 minutes stuffed with tourists from all over Europe. I can't even begin to rationalise it

Sounds like La Gomera island has unilaterally decided to keep out foreigners. Perhaps a mob was at the airport.

 

[Nobby]

The other thing Italy didn't do was identify they had a problem until it was too late. I think they had a couple of deaths before they even identified they had a case. So by the time they realised your exponential spreadsheet was happening unchecked, probably for at least 8 days or more.

We on the other hand did identify cases early, and such as the Hove Super Spreader, threw resources at tracking contacts and informing them to isolate. Yeah, it's growing, but we've very much slowed it through diligent work behind the scenes.

I really hope you’re right, but I just can’t work out how you can be, now that we’re not even bothering to test anyone

 

[Blue3]

BBC news just said Italy has 15,000 confirmed cases with 1,500 deaths if that is correct then that's a 10% fatality!