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A different kind of pasty
Yup, precautionary measure I guess.
Think I might make sure I sit next to the heater on the train
Correct.
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Yup, precautionary measure I guess.
Think I might make sure I sit next to the heater on the train
Correct.
Dick Swiveller
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- Sep 9, 2011
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This is a tricky one - I'm WFH today as I had a sore throat and runny nose and thought it best not to upset others at work as I can work at home. Seeing this thread reminded me that I have thermometers in the house so I dug out the under the tongue one - 36.8 so fine. But I bought it after buying an in ear one a couple of years ago when my girlfriend had Flu so bad that she fainted. That said she had a very high temperature so I tried it on me who felt fine - I think you could have cooked eggs on me according to what it said. Literally pointless as it just says that everyone has a high temperature. I am assuming the old fashioned "shove in an orifice" ones are fine but I wonder how accurate these pointy gun ones are. What if you were late for work and rushed a bit?
Neither, in all likelihood.
Probably the same as us - the numbers really don't mean a great deal as the spread is far wider than isolated testing will show.
We have one that was around £30 on amazon and it seems to work very well. Mine always comes out as 36.7oC unless I'm ill.
Kalimantan Gull
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I fully support the current stance. Can't see any point in closing schools whatsoever other than the 'appearance' of doing something. Kids and their parents are not the at risk group. But when the single mum who works as a nurse in ICU has to drop her daughter off with her parents so she can go to work, you're just going to see the wrong people exposed.
All of us under 60 and healthy should just carry on and get the virus. Everyone at risk - stay isolated at home. And when we're recovered and have immunity, we can go and spend time with them safely.
It's obvious who is at risk now. They should isolate themselves. They'll need help from the rest of us, which I'll be a lot happier giving once I've got sick and then recovered.
Herd immunity : completely logical
All of us under 60 and healthy should just carry on and get the virus. Everyone at risk - stay isolated at home. And when we're recovered and have immunity, we can go and spend time with them safely.
It's obvious who is at risk now. They should isolate themselves. They'll need help from the rest of us, which I'll be a lot happier giving once I've got sick and then recovered.
Herd immunity : completely logical
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
I agree with much of that although you may underestimate how many older folks, grandparents and the like, pick up kids from primary school. I would estimate maybe 20% sometimes, of the classes I dismiss.
Whilst I agree with all of that, many of us won't know whether we've had it or not...
- Some will be completely asymptomatic (had it but didn't know)
- Some will just feel a bit rough (was it or wasn't it?)
- Some will have a cold (could have been ir, but wasn't)
- Some will have seasonal flu (really felt like it, but wasn't)
...in short most of the c80% (hopefully a lot more than 80% once all said and done) will not know with absolute certainty whether they've had it or not, as only those who needed to go to hospital will be tested.
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Friends of ours flew to La Gomera (Canary Islands) today. On landing, the local authorities refused to let people out of the airport and they have been told to return to the UK. Spain is shut!
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
Thanks for posting that. I've been trying to persuade my brother from flying out on Sunday. That may help.
Blimey it's odd to read an incorrect death toll being waved off as immaterial anyway in the grand scheme.
Even Boris and The Donald would be proud of that.
I can't help but think that Boris has played an absolute blinder here. ( [MENTION=36]Titanic[/MENTION] yes you can and probably will quote me on that in later political discourse!).
Yesterday my next few days was all mapped out. I was going to football and getting on the sauce on Saturday before flying up to Scotland for four days work on Monday morning.
Now the inevitable confirmed cases in managers and players has suspended the league anyway without BoJo lifting a finger, the trip has been cancelled as my client's office has closed for a deep clean following a positive diagnosis and my own company has advised everyone to work from home for the foreseeable.
All of this has been completely implemented by business itself as the lesser of two evils and as part of decent business continuity.
Where working from home is not possible, of course, life continues. But since this includes NHS professionals and police then safety is maintained and, as it includes food producers, shop workers and delivery drivers, in theory those who have horded pasta and bogroll have just filled up their cupboards needlessly.
The country is "doing the needful" as my Indian colleagues would say - but it's being driven by HR departments and practicality, not by No 10.
Yesterday my next few days was all mapped out. I was going to football and getting on the sauce on Saturday before flying up to Scotland for four days work on Monday morning.
Now the inevitable confirmed cases in managers and players has suspended the league anyway without BoJo lifting a finger, the trip has been cancelled as my client's office has closed for a deep clean following a positive diagnosis and my own company has advised everyone to work from home for the foreseeable.
All of this has been completely implemented by business itself as the lesser of two evils and as part of decent business continuity.
Where working from home is not possible, of course, life continues. But since this includes NHS professionals and police then safety is maintained and, as it includes food producers, shop workers and delivery drivers, in theory those who have horded pasta and bogroll have just filled up their cupboards needlessly.
The country is "doing the needful" as my Indian colleagues would say - but it's being driven by HR departments and practicality, not by No 10.
Kalimantan Gull
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I'm sure you're right. And many of the elderly are perfectly fit and strong in their own right and will survive it. What we need to ensure is that everybody at risk knows they are at risk, and everyone else respects that status. We could enforce it, or encourage people to do it by themselves, or indeed allow those at risk to take the risk.
When this started in China I was personally scared. I'm now far less scared for myself and immediate family, or even my healthy 74 year old parents. We have just got to respect this and isolate when ill and keep the elderly safe. If it's your elderly parents picking the kids up from school, stop them!
This is the part we don't know much about yet. I've heard the accounts of lots of middle aged people who had it, and it hasn't sounded nice in any of these cases. I suppose there could be lots of mild cases but I haven't heard any estimates on proportion, or precise symptoms or similar.
Take me for example, i am self-isolating today. Last night got bad headache, slight cough and sore throat, felt weak coupled with runny nose. All week my 8 year old had been off school with a bad cough. So I'm suspecting. Today the headache is pretty bad, but it's 5pm and no fever yet. So I am starting to feel pretty confident I don't have it, because I would expect a 45 year old guy like me to get a fever at least, and for that to have kicked in by now. But I don't know....
So yes, your point is valid. But I do agree with the herd immunity concept.
The London Marathon postponed to Sun 4th October
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Only a matter of time before Brighton is.
You can only fly to La Gomera from Tenerife?!
MattBackHome
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- Jul 7, 2003
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It's only occurring to me now that there is a chance that when I was ill for a few days in mid Feb that it could, possibly, have been this. The timing fits with the initial Brighton cluster timings, though it does seem vanishingly unlikely. And as I'm high risk there's no way I'm letting my guard down. But it is weird.
Nobby
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- Sep 29, 2007
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Jeez. Glad I cancelled
I guess I would be considered in the “at risk” group - in my seventies with heart problems and diabetic. However I don’t see how I can possibly reduce my risk in the long term.
If 80% of the general population are likely to become infectious over the next few months how am I supposed to avoid totally, contact with either other individuals or contaminated surfaces? It’s simply not practical. It’s not the same as self isolation for a couple of weeks by those who may have the virus - we’re talking months.