Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[Springal]

Been to the supermarket today. Went to aldi and big Tesco, it's like never before. Not just handwash, bog roll and pasta.....everything packet/tinned is virtually gone.

There was a little old man behind in the Tesco, looked about 85-90, immaculately dressed with a small basket. He said to us "I don't understand it, why are people buying so much water when we can drink it from the tap" our reply is their panicking, he turned round and said "I've been coming here every Friday for years to buy a newspaper, a loaf of bread and a tin of carrots, today there are no carrots"

The Mrs was welling up, this is one small reality of this dog eat dog behaviour

It is ridiculous. I just popped into the supermarket for my weekly Friday / weekend shop.... Absolutely no toilet paper at all (why stockpile toilet roll?) - Dried Rice & Pasta - again gone. Baked Beans? Gone.

Even stuff like Yeast & Flour was pretty much gone

 

[Bold Seagull]

Been to the supermarket today. Went to aldi and big Tesco, it's like never before. Not just handwash, bog roll and pasta.....everything packet/tinned is virtually gone.

There was a little old man behind in the Tesco, looked about 85-90, immaculately dressed with a small basket. He said to us "I don't understand it, why are people buying so much water when we can drink it from the tap" our reply is their panicking, he turned round and said "I've been coming here every Friday for years to buy a newspaper, a loaf of bread and a tin of carrots, today there are no carrots"

The Mrs was welling up, this is one small reality of this dog eat dog behaviour

A customer spoke to the assistant manager at Asda who simply said it's just caught the supply chains off guard. All they need to do is get their ordering up to pre-Xmas levels when they expect people to do huge shops and it will be fine. There aren't issues further down the supply chain. So ultimately once the idiots have finished their stock piling, the rest of us should be able to shop as normal, perhaps slowly building up a bit of extra stuff if we are isolating for a week or so and can't get out.

 

[Nobby]

I get all this isolation, so as not to affect the elderly and people with respiratory issues but if for instance my son, 24, who still lives at home with me was to get it, shouldn't I as a healthy 51 year old isolate myself with him to try and catch it. We will then get over it and have immunity and get on with our lives?I

My question arises after watching a film on the BBC website of a man in Wuhan that films his life as his wife gets the virus. He gets all dressed up in a suit and cleans the apartment. I'm struggling to think why we would not want to catch it, it we are healthy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-china-51858226/coronavirus-life-inside-china-s-lockdown

That’s a good point - maybe they could give it as an injection to all of you healthy lot to accelerate the herd thing

 

[Bry Nylon]

Been to the supermarket today. Went to aldi and big Tesco, it's like never before. Not just handwash, bog roll and pasta.....everything packet/tinned is virtually gone.

There was a little old man behind in the Tesco, looked about 85-90, immaculately dressed with a small basket. He said to us... "I've been coming here every Friday for years to buy a newspaper, a loaf of bread and a tin of carrots, today there are no carrots"

He's got a loaf of bread?! The selfish *******!

 

[Notters]

The course of action is driven by health reasons.

But I would love to see some sort of stats on the relative ability of each nations health service to cope with the virus, prior to it starting.

We know that we are towards the bottom of the league in relative critical care beds.
We know that the NHS has been woefully underfunded and is currently in a poor state to deal with this.

So my belief is that this current course of action (or inaction), Is being driven by the shortage of critical care beds in our country relative to many other countries.

Hence the policy of sorry, you’re on your own Jack, unless you get really ill, when we might hopefully be able to do something for you, as long as we haven’t been completely overwhelmed by that stage.

We are where we are currently, but with historically more investment, we might just have been able to save a few more lives than we are going to be able to do. And that makes me sad.
None of this is Johnson’s fault though, even if I hate his guts, he is just playing the cards he has been left with.

If people want to dismiss this as just another political post, then fine. But politics is about serving your people, and we have been let down by a lot of our previous politicians.

Surely we would be going more extreme if this was the case, not less!?

 

[Bold Seagull]

I suspect we will see slowly more stringent social distancing measures over the coming weeks/months, with perhaps eventually a full lockdown of 2 weeks just prior to when they expect the "peak" to hit - perhaps May/June.

I can understand the logic behind this - getting people to prepare over time, enabling an easier transition into isolation, reduces panic whilst getting an idea as to NHS capabilities as the situation progresses etc.

There will have to be an element of "holding the nerve" at points though.

It feels like the general tone today is that the 'holding the nerve' is already being well tested.

Although I've got a few Whatsapp texts from my son's U10 football team asking if their games are off until 03 April...now my son's team are not bad, but I'm not sure I would describe them as 'elite' just yet.

 

[CheeseRolls]

Just thinking back to my shop last weekend. I didn't buy any of the panic goods, because I already had plenty of toilet rolls etc. I buy the 18 packs when they are on offer. Even so my shopping bill was about 30% above average. There was a little topping up of alcohol supplies, but not a conscious effort to stockpile anything for trouble ahead.

It always seems to be other people being selfish, but if everyone, has bought a little extra, without realising it, have we all created a stock shortage?

 

[Nobby]

Surely we would be going more extreme if this was the case, not less!?

They’re trying to smooth out the demand for beds and health staff because they don’t really have enough resource for a normal flu outbreak let alone this virus

 

[atomised]

Up to 798 today

 

[Notters]

They’re trying to smooth out the demand for beds and health staff because they don’t really have enough resource for a normal flu outbreak let alone this virus

Yes, but what he says is the opposite.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Been to the supermarket today. Went to aldi and big Tesco, it's like never before. Not just handwash, bog roll and pasta.....everything packet/tinned is virtually gone.

There was a little old man behind in the Tesco, looked about 85-90, immaculately dressed with a small basket. He said to us "I don't understand it, why are people buying so much water when we can drink it from the tap" our reply is their panicking, he turned round and said "I've been coming here every Friday for years to buy a newspaper, a loaf of bread and a tin of carrots, today there are no carrots"

The Mrs was welling up, this is one small reality of this dog eat dog behaviour

You should take a trip to your local Sainos Local. Just been down to our Preston Park branch and everything's as fully stocked as usual. Even plenty of packs of bog roll freely available

 

[narly101]

Up to 798 from 590 - increase of 35%. Should firmly hit 1k tomorrow. 4 weeks behind Italy you say?!?

 

[Nobby]

Up by 208 today to 798 confirmed with another 10 deaths - now 20

 

[Bry Nylon]

You should take a trip to your local Sainos Local. Just been down to our Preston Park branch and everything's as fully stocked as usual. Even plenty of packs of bog roll freely available

Is there a little old man in there buying all the tinned carrots?

 

[Nobby]

Up to 798 from 590 - increase of 35%. Should firmly hit 1k tomorrow. 4 weeks behind Italy you say?!?

I just couldn’t believe that yesterday. More like a week and a half behind

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Is there a little old man in there buying all the tinned carrots?

Not any more

 

[A1X]

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[Hugo Rune]

I just find it odd that our gkvernment's best science is starkly at odds with many other nearby countries best science. Strongly suspect it's got far more to do with economic reasons than health reasons.

It’ll be a lot cheaper to have herd immunity than to give the anticipated vaccine to everyone next year but the 60% infection rate is going to be a very hard target for the government to hit. Still, letting Spanish & Italians come and go into this country should help, I’m expecting to see a large spike in Liverpool over the next week to prove that the government’s tactics are working.

 

[Sorrel]

I appreciate/understand what the British medical advisors and the government are trying to do, but I'm not sure how long this strategy will last.

If we went full Czech Republic and closed the borders and all events might help initially. But how long would that period last? And what would be the plan if we opened things again and then had to full on close them again?

It could last for months, so I do think a phased closure and opening of areas might be more sensible to keep some things going. But in the short term it might look worse. And anyway, the government will be forced into stronger measure probably by the first two days of next week.

 

[RossyG]

Ain't karma a bitch

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Trump said no such thing, needless to say.