Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[The Clamp]

Particularly interested in this comment. More mixed messaging?

Dr Harries said cancelling big outdoor events like football matches would not necessarily be a decision supported by science.
"The virus will not survive very long outside," she said. "Many outdoor events, particularly, are relatively safe."

So - this week there is a schools dance performance on every day at The Dome. My daughter is in the one tomorrow. The Dome full up with kids from literally every school in the area, sneezing, picking things and licking each other. Indoors. Not called off.

Yet football matches, marathons etc in the balance.

Am I the only person who thinks this is strange?

Basically nobody has a damned clue how to handle this if it becomes a pandemic. They have even less in the way of facilities. When it comes, people will die and nobody can really do that much about it.
Just try and look after yourself (to stop the spread) and the most vulnerable and hope that it peaks and ****s off soon.

That’s official advice

 

[Napper]

When we likely to go to the next stage as that hopefully should see alot of us sent home to work.

Going to predict a + 40 cases from yesterday

 

[A1X]

 

[The Clamp]

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Yes!

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I wonder when minor operations will be cancelled. I've got two coming up.

 

[Solid at the back]

When we likely to go to the next stage as that hopefully should see alot of us sent home to work.

Going to predict a + 40 cases from yesterday

I predict we will see our biggest increase yet and hit 450 in total

 

[Giraffe]

https://www.brightonandhovealbion.com/news/1643040/coronavirus-update-ahead-of-arsenal



— standing down Gully, Sally and Sammy mascots until further notice.

I think this is my favourite ever quote in a BHAFC press release. Are they worried about bird flu now?!

 

[Guinness Boy]

Everything is in the balance. Just not yet. Give it a week or so and all of the above will be off.

But what's the point if it's not supported by science? "The virus cannot survive long outside". That doesn't change just because there are more cases does it?

Basically nobody has a damned clue how to handle this if it becomes a pandemic. They have even less in the way of facilities. When it comes, people will die and nobody can really do that much about it.
Just try and look after yourself (to stop the spread) and the most vulnerable and hope that it peaks and ****s off soon.

That’s official advice

That's exactly my position.

 

[BNthree]

Yet football matches, marathons etc in the balance.

Am I the only person who thinks this is strange?

Are they actually in the balance or is it just endless media speculation making it seem that way?

 

[peterward]

That is a bit scary. I know it's 'cool' to be unbothered by all this and as far as I know I'm in fine health, but it's my elderly parents I'm concerned about.

Likewise - both my parents are in their late 70's and my mum has a form of Parkinsons. My Dad is frail from looking after her. My brother has MS. It's all a worry about how they will deal with it even if I deliver goods to all of them ..... which is quite difficult to fit around work ..... and to get some goods thanks to stockpiling idiots !

My wife and mother of our kids has a lung condition called Sarcoidosis, Dr already says shes in higher risk category, elderly mum has Parkinsons.

So I'll leave this out here, not as an endorsement, but just what I did.

I posted about 10 days ago about one specific drug, of the few that have been used extensively on Coronovirus patients, and with a lot of reports of success from various quarters. Its an HIV drug main brand name is called Kaletra (its been used widely in China, Japan, Thailand and Spain with many reports of patients dramatically improving). Kaletra has many cheaper generic versions, its basically a combo of 2 drugs Lopinavir and Ritonavir in 200/50mg strength. Its not a cure, it cannot rid your body of Covid19 only your immune system can, but its a Protease inhibitor, it blocks the protease which is required by the coronovirus to replicate in the body. Blocking it stops replication.

I have used a specific company based in India before, for a different medication available in the country my wife comes from (not UK) that was not available in the the UK, it was definitely real that time. They even have plenty of reviews on trustpilot in the UK from people who have bought from them. I obviosuly cannot guarantee anything this time except my experience shared honestly.

This is the kaletra generic on their site, but they again said 'Lopimune' advertised, was out of stock and offered me another Indian manufactured (and slightly cheaper) generic called HIV-US, which I also checked and read about in great detail. https://www.genericday.com/lopimune-tablet.html

Truth is the $70 per bottle is about 2-3x the actual price locally, the $25 courier is fixed whether you order 1 or 2. or $95 all in you'll get 1 bottle. I ordered 2 bottles 8 days ago, it arrived by postman today and they even had sense to mark price for customs as $14 to avoid tax. Its expiry is Dec 2021.

I dont expect to use it, really hope to lob it away in a year. Its a last chance saloon nuclear option. Will hope it all goes away and blows over, try and avoid it in the meantime, and place ourselves in the hands of the NHS if we do catch it..... but it was obvious a week ago, that what is happening in Italy and what will likely occur here with no beds available and not treating certain categories of sicker/elderly patients would be the case, and on that basis, if the Italy situation does occur here, I wasn't prepared to just sit and watch the Mrs or my mum die if priority is given to someone else.

Maybe if that all seems a bit far fetched today, fair enough. I cant do anymore than that, and hope it is wildy OTT. but feel just that little bit happier that's at least up the sleeve if it ever gets to that.

 

[Rodney Thomas]

I predict we will see our biggest increase yet and hit 450 in total

Got any references for your claims yesterday? Specifically the 40% of ICU capacity being made up of under 60s?

 

[Nobby]

I think this is my favourite ever quote in a BHAFC press release. Are they worried about bird flu now?!

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[LamieRobertson]

Anyone staying at home if they have a sniffle? Listening to a program on the radio and they seem to be suggesting you should....i have what i regard as a ‘normal’ cough and cold and i carry on working ....being self employed i don't have much choice ..at least i work outdoors and on my own

 

[LamieRobertson]

I predict we will see our biggest increase yet and hit 450 in total

Will you be changing your name to Loose at the back?

 

[sparkie]

Got any references for your claims yesterday? Specifically the 40% of ICU capacity being made up of under 60s?

My guess is www.twitter.com

 

[Bozza]

But what's the point if it's not supported by science? "The virus cannot survive long outside". That doesn't change just because there are more cases does it?

If/when spread is truly rampant, then my guess is they'll want to choke off the spread as much as they can.

We may watch football outside, but we travel on heaving trains and buses. We congregate in packed concourses. We take a piss with five blokes breathing down the back of our necks waiting their turn. It is these environments, with poor air circulation, that spreading is far more likely to occur.

Look, this is just my guess, but I'm not picking up any mixed messaging at all - it's just a matter of timing.

Like everyone else, I'll just follow expert advice as and when we receive it.

 

[Nobby]

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“Supporters will also be permitted to bring travel-sized hand sanitisers into the stadium (up to 100ml) in a clear plastic container”


Bottle tops just won’t go away will they.

 

[WATFORD zero]

My wife and mother of our kids has a lung condition called Sarcoidosis, Dr already says shes in higher risk category, elderly mum has Parkinsons.

So I'll leave this out here, not as an endorsement, but just what I did.

I posted about 10 days ago about one specific drug, of the few that have been used extensively on Coronovirus patients, and with a lot of reports of success from various quarters. Its an HIV drug main brand name is called Kaletra (its been used widely in China, Japan, Thailand and Spain with many reports of patients dramatically improving). Kaletra has many cheaper generic versions, its basically a combo of 2 drugs Lopinavir and Ritonavir in 200/50mg strength. Its not a cure, it cannot rid your body of Covid19 only your immune system can, but its a Protease inhibitor, it blocks the protease which is required by the coronovirus to replicate in the body. Blocking it stops replication.

I have used a specific company based in India before, for a different medication available in the country my wife comes from (not UK) that was not available in the the UK, it was definitely real that time. They even have plenty of reviews on trustpilot in the UK from people who have bought from them. I obviosuly cannot guarantee anything this time except my experience shared honestly.

This is the kaletra generic on their site, but they again said 'Lopimune' advertised, was out of stock and offered me another Indian manufactured (and slightly cheaper) generic called HIV-US, which I also checked and read about in great detail. https://www.genericday.com/lopimune-tablet.html

Truth is the $70 per bottle is about 2-3x the actual price locally, the $25 courier is fixed whether you order 1 or 2. or $95 all in you'll get 1 bottle. I ordered 2 bottles 8 days ago, it arrived by postman today and they even had sense to mark price for customs as $14 to avoid tax. Its expiry is Dec 2021.

I dont expect to use it, really hope to lob it away in a year. Its a last chance saloon nuclear option. Will hope it all goes away and blows over, try and avoid it in the meantime, and place ourselves in the hands of the NHS if we do catch it..... but it was obvious a week ago, that what is happening in Italy and what will likely occur here with no beds available and not treating certain categories of sicker/elderly patients would be the case, and on that basis, if the Italy situation does occur here, I wasn't prepared to just sit and watch the Mrs or my mum die if priority is given to someone else.

Maybe if that all seems a bit far fetched today, fair enough. I cant do anymore than that, and hope it is wildy OTT. but feel just that little bit happier that's at least up the sleeve if it ever gets to that.

Seems sensible to me, to put some thought into it, if you have loved ones that are high risk. As you say, you hope it is wildly OTT, but isn't that the basis of insurance, a small investment to cover the worst scenario you can think of ?

And it's a bloodysight more sensible investment that Pasta and Loo rolls.

 

[Rodney Thomas]

My wife and mother of our kids has a lung condition called Sarcoidosis, Dr already says shes in higher risk category, elderly mum has Parkinsons.

So I'll leave this out here, not as an endorsement, but just what I did.

I posted about 10 days ago about one specific drug, of the few that have been used extensively on Coronovirus patients, and with a lot of reports of success from various quarters. Its an HIV drug main brand name is called Kaletra (its been used widely in China, Japan, Thailand and Spain with many reports of patients dramatically improving). Kaletra has many cheaper generic versions, its basically a combo of 2 drugs Lopinavir and Ritonavir in 200/50mg strength. Its not a cure, it cannot rid your body of Covid19 only your immune system can, but its a Protease inhibitor, it blocks the protease which is required by the coronovirus to replicate in the body. Blocking it stops replication.

I have used a specific company based in India before, for a different medication available in the country my wife comes from (not UK) that was not available in the the UK, it was definitely real that time. They even have plenty of reviews on trustpilot in the UK from people who have bought from them. I obviosuly cannot guarantee anything this time except my experience shared honestly.

This is the kaletra generic on their site, but they again said 'Lopimune' advertised, was out of stock and offered me another Indian manufactured (and slightly cheaper) generic called HIV-US, which I also checked and read about in great detail. https://www.genericday.com/lopimune-tablet.html

Truth is the $70 per bottle is about 2-3x the actual price locally, the $25 courier is fixed whether you order 1 or 2. or $95 all in you'll get 1 bottle. I ordered 2 bottles 8 days ago, it arrived by postman today and they even had sense to mark price for customs as $14 to avoid tax. Its expiry is Dec 2021.

I dont expect to use it, really hope to lob it away in a year. Its a last chance saloon nuclear option. Will hope it all goes away and blows over, try and avoid it in the meantime, and place ourselves in the hands of the NHS if we do catch it..... but it was obvious a week ago, that what is happening in Italy and what will likely occur here with no beds available and not treating certain categories of sicker/elderly patients would be the case, and on that basis, if the Italy situation does occur here, I wasn't prepared to just sit and watch the Mrs or my mum die if priority is given to someone else.

Maybe if that all seems a bit far fetched today, fair enough. I cant do anymore than that, and hope it is wildy OTT. but feel just that little bit happier that's at least up the sleeve if it ever gets to that.

Have you looked into the legal ramifications of such self medication?

 

[Wrong-Direction]

Zero chance of Glastonbury happening imo. Would imagine festivals towards the back end of summer have a chance of still happening.

Not so gutted about not getting a ticket now, but I do have tickets for Shambala end of August..

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