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Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
53,177
Goldstone
the strategy at present seems to be to get people just scared enough to take sensible precautions without causing panic
Looks like you got a copy of the leaked memo too.
 




Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
53,177
Goldstone
A level of caution is completely sensible, granted. Diseases of any kind should of course be treated with respect, and the necessary steps taken to deal with said diseases.
Agreed.

However, there are people on here - and in society - with real anxiety problems and some of the statements you read on here and hear in the press are very foolish and irresponsible. Scare a herd of sheep and it will do stupid things.
Yes of course some posts here have been over the top. One poster is suffering from anxiety issues and thinks half the world is going to die. Contrast that with others who are saying 'it's just a cold'. As usual, the truth is more likely to be in the middle and most people appear to be saying something along the lines of 'this is very serious, and actions need to be taken or a lot of lives will be lost'.
 


CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,096
Surprising lack of information or use of sanitizer at the Natural History Museum today. Only one sanitizer pump as you leave and it is very easily missed. I understand this thing is hard to stop but we REALLY don’t seem to be trying.
 




Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
5,471
Mid Sussex
So that's Italy. What about France and Germany? Do you think we're more like Zhejiang than France and Germany?

No and where have I said that. China was ground zero and like Italy it wasn’t addressed as quickly as it should have done.

They kiss cheeks in France and I’ve seen it done it Bavaria. The pint I was making is that culture will have an effect on transmission. Hence all the jokes on tapping elbows etc.


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Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
5,471
Mid Sussex
I think the effect of the virus might end up with the opposite affect making governments and businesses think about future resilience which in turn brings some production back closer to home, in the medium to long term be of a benifit to UK after exciting the EU time will tell

This.


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Albion Dan

Banned
Jul 8, 2003
11,125
Peckham
Just had our weekly work debrief and the message from Public Health England is we're still in containment phase. Still fine to get on with your normal life and message is to continue using recommended hygiene measures. Seems like no risk to football fixtures yet then....
 






Bozza

You can change this
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Jul 4, 2003
57,294
Back in Sussex
This twitter thread (ie open the tweet and read the authors full chain of tweet that follow it) might bring it home for some, and what I and the likes of [MENTION=805]Kalimantan Gull[/MENTION] have been trying to explain. Probably not though.


[tweet]1236095180459003909[/tweet]
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
53,177
Goldstone
No and where have I said that.
You didn't, and I didn't say you did, but you did compare us to Zhejiang, saying that their population was similar and that they didn't have many cases and only had one death. I don't think Zhejiang is the most appropriate place to compare us with, due to the extreme measures of isolation they've taken there.

China was ground zero and like Italy it wasn’t addressed as quickly as it should have done.
China was, but Zhejiang wasn't, and they took measures quickly there.

They kiss cheeks in France and I’ve seen it done it Bavaria. The pint I was making is that culture will have an effect on transmission.
Yes I agree. We're culturally different to Italy, and we're probably also now being more cautious because of what we've seen in Italy. But I don't think we can expect things to play out here as they have in Zhejiang.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Agreed.

Yes of course some posts here have been over the top. One poster is suffering from anxiety issues and thinks half the world is going to die. Contrast that with others who are saying 'it's just a cold'. As usual, the truth is more likely to be in the middle and most people appear to be saying something along the lines of 'this is very serious, and actions need to be taken or a lot of lives will be lost'.

He says let it run its course.

[tweet]1236778356105981953[/tweet]
 






Ninja Elephant

Doctor Elephant
Feb 16, 2009
18,855
He says let it run its course.

[tweet]1236778356105981953[/tweet]

Well, now I KNOW I'm in the wrong because I agree with Boris. Let it do what it's going to do, crack on with your life and hope you and your elderly relatives aren't impacted at any point. The chances of them dying because of Covid-19 is currently less than 1% of confirmed cases in the UK. Probably a reasonable risk to take.
 


The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
26,195
West is BEST
Well, now I KNOW I'm in the wrong because I agree with Boris. Let it do what it's going to do, crack on with your life and hope you and your elderly relatives aren't impacted at any point. The chances of them dying because of Covid-19 is currently less than 1% of confirmed cases in the UK. Probably a reasonable risk to take.

A bit of bloody sense.
 




Algernon

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Sep 9, 2012
3,191
Newmarket.




Bozza

You can change this
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Jul 4, 2003
57,294
Back in Sussex
Well, now I KNOW I'm in the wrong because I agree with Boris. Let it do what it's going to do, crack on with your life and hope you and your elderly relatives aren't impacted at any point. The chances of them dying because of Covid-19 is currently less than 1% of confirmed cases in the UK. Probably a reasonable risk to take.

On the downside, this approach would likely absolute decimate the NHS and many more people would die than is needed, both directly from the virus and from other causes that are unable to be treated as they would normally.

FWIW, I think the actual approach being taken isn't far removed from that, as it is accepted it can't be stopped. So "let it run its course" but in a controlled fashion, ie impose social distancing to slow the spread and give the NHS a better chance.
 


The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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For the first time in my entire life I actually trust Johnson with this.
Jesus . I can’t believe I typed those words. I take a small quantum of solace knowing that it’s nit actually an idea he thought of, it’s just born out of his innate instinct to do nothing.
 




Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2014
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For the first time in my entire life I actually trust Johnson with this.
Jesus . I can’t believe I typed those words. I take a small quantum of solace knowing that it’s nit actually an idea he thought of, it’s just born out of his innate instinct to do nothing.

Johnson isn't running this. He's a spokesperson. I trust the medical experts who are handling this. As long as he and his cohorts just listen we should get the best outcome. It'll get worse before it gets better though.
 


The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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West is BEST
Johnson isn't running this. He's a spokesperson. I trust the medical experts who are handling this. As long as he and his cohorts just listen we should get the best outcome. It'll get worse before it gets better though.

Yes, you talk sense.
 


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