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Giraffe

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I thought I'd take a look at whether this has spread to the area around me I.e Suffolk, Norfolk, Cambridgeshire and found not a single case.
Then I realised it's probably because nobody wants to visit here.

It's interest isn't it. There are large swathes of the country that actually don't need to be worried yet and that could conceivably continue.
 




Algernon

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It's interest isn't it. There are large swathes of the country that actually don't need to be worried yet and that could conceivably continue.

Were you to walk around Cambridge City centre for half a day you'd be very likely to see thousands of Chinese students.
I presume many of them would've got together with relatives back in their home country over the New Year yet Milton Keynes is the closest the virus has been detected.
 






Kalimantan Gull

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For the first time in my entire life I actually trust Johnson with this.
Jesus . I can’t believe I typed those words. I take a small quantum of solace knowing that it’s nit actually an idea he thought of, it’s just born out of his innate instinct to do nothing.

I do think it shows the folly of the position you have adopted on this particular issue.

Having argued alongside you on the Brexit thread, I now understand the frustration of the Brexiteers :lolol:

I was amused the other day by this cartoon, which seems to apply in your case, and quite probably mine too :thumbsup:

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Yah.

Even in China, Italy and Iran, there are parts that are relatively unaffected. South East is buggered because of London (like most things), most major cities are also buggered but out in the sticks they'll be relatively untouched.
 


Kalimantan Gull

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One for the 'Its just like the flu' brigade..

"Almost three million cases of flu have been reported in Italy since the start of the winter season, and the number of confirmed cases is rising. Since the start of flu season in October 2019, 2,768,000 cases across the country have been confirmed by laboratory tests, according to data from InfluNet published on January 19.

A total of 488,000 cases were reported last week alone, signalling that flu season is hitting its peak in January as predicted. 240 deaths have so far been reported, slightly lower than the expected 258. Most of the fatal cases are elderly patients who suffered complications after contracting the virus."

240 deaths from 2.8 million cases. Meanwhile 463 people have died from Coronavirus in the past 17 days from 9,172 cases, with another 733 people in critical condition.

Just like the flu.
 




The Clamp

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I do think it shows the folly of the position you have adopted on this particular issue.

Having argued alongside you on the Brexit thread, I now understand the frustration of the Brexiteers :lolol:

I was amused the other day by this cartoon, which seems to apply in your case, and quite probably mine too :thumbsup:

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Well, let me clarify. I wasn’t being entirely serious about BJ. I don’t actually think we should “take it on the chin”. Measures need to be taken and support for NHS should be ramped up. I also believe people should be educated and encourage on matters of hygiene.

My Johnson post has let me down to be fair but I do wish people would read posts properly. My take on the whole matter is; Be prepared, follow sound advice, but don’t panic. It’s coming, it’s here , we can limit it but we can’t stop it so stop catastrophising and take practical steps to minimise the impact.
Not stripping Asda if it’s bog roll would be a good start.
 


dingodan

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Boris Johnson is doing fine, because he recognizes that he isn't an infectious diseases/medical/science expert, and he is deferring to those who are.

Not only is that the right approach, but the fact that he doesn't feel the need (as some politicians might) to pretend that he is the one who is running the show, means he is putting his medical and scientific advisers front and centre, and they are explaining their decision making without assuming people are too stupid to understand, which is also reassuring IMO.
 


Kalimantan Gull

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Well, let me clarify. I wasn’t being entirely serious about BJ. I don’t actually think we should “take it on the chin”. Measures need to be taken and support for NHS should be ramped up. I also believe people should be educated and encourage on matters of hygiene.

My Johnson post has let me down to be fair but I do wish people would read posts properly. My take on the whole matter is; Be prepared, follow sound advice, but don’t panic. It’s coming, it’s here , we can limit it but we can’t stop it so stop catastrophising and take practical steps to minimise the impact.
Not stripping Asda if it’s bog roll would be a good start.

17th November 2020.

Dear Diary,

It is now 15 weeks since the virus claimed the last of our toilet paper manufacturers. Emergency supplies are coming, they say. But for now, Helen and I are in my study, facing the bookshelves, once again deciding which books will be flushed this week. The first few weeks were easy: non-fantasy novels, sporting autobiographies, heresy, self-help, Stephenie Meyer. That book about Nostradamus didn't predict this, so its fate was sealed. We rejoiced when we found an old telephone directory.

But now, tough decisions need to be made. Do we need all 400 Terry Pratchetts? We keep the biology books for now, but will the future really miss a few books on physics? If no one even read my thesis, then what's the difference? If that fantasy series hasn't been turned into a Netflix show, how good could it really be?

If only ... if only we'd panic-bought at Asda in March.
 




The Clamp

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17th November 2020.

Dear Diary,

It is now 15 weeks since the virus claimed the last of our toilet paper manufacturers. Emergency supplies are coming, they say. But for now, Helen and I are in my study, facing the bookshelves, once again deciding which books will be flushed this week. The first few weeks were easy: non-fantasy novels, sporting autobiographies, heresy, self-help, Stephenie Meyer. That book about Nostradamus didn't predict this, so its fate was sealed. We rejoiced when we found an old telephone directory.

But now, tough decisions need to be made. Do we need all 400 Terry Pratchetts? We keep the biology books for now, but will the future really miss a few books on physics? If no one even read my thesis, then what's the difference? If that fantasy series hasn't been turned into a Netflix show, how good could it really be?

If only ... if only we'd panic-bought at Asda in March.

:)

I can get all the bog roll I need through work suppliers. I’m more concerned that my weekly plant based food box will be cancelled. I’m out in the sticks, three miles from the nearest avacado.
 


Dave the OAP

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About 100 new deaths in Italy since Sunday. Nearly 2000 more tested positive.

Of course a lot of Italian families all live together as they don’t pack off their elderly into homes, they tend to stay in the family home to be looked after by the family.

It’s a cultural thing, so to a certain degree you can see why there has been such a issue in Italy.

We are being told to ramp up our processes and have noticed across the industry, many companies are asking for extra capacity from us should their offices close and employees have to sign in via VPN etc.
 


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17th November 2020.

Dear Diary,

It is now 15 weeks since the virus claimed the last of our toilet paper manufacturers. Emergency supplies are coming, they say. But for now, Helen and I are in my study, facing the bookshelves, once again deciding which books will be flushed this week. The first few weeks were easy: non-fantasy novels, sporting autobiographies, heresy, self-help, Stephenie Meyer. That book about Nostradamus didn't predict this, so its fate was sealed. We rejoiced when we found an old telephone directory.

But now, tough decisions need to be made. Do we need all 400 Terry Pratchetts? We keep the biology books for now, but will the future really miss a few books on physics? If no one even read my thesis, then what's the difference? If that fantasy series hasn't been turned into a Netflix show, how good could it really be?

If only ... if only we'd panic-bought at Asda in March.

The best post on this thread. If you thought of that yourself it's genius
 




Driver8

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Of course a lot of Italian families all live together as they don’t pack off their elderly into homes, they tend to stay in the family home to be looked after by the family.

It’s a cultural thing, so to a certain degree you can see why there has been such a issue in Italy.

We are being told to ramp up our processes and have noticed across the industry, many companies are asking for extra capacity from us should their offices close and employees have to sign in via VPN etc.

We have a company wide “log in from home” test tonight to see how the systems cope.
 




Deportivo Seagull

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One for the 'Its just like the flu' brigade..

"Almost three million cases of flu have been reported in Italy since the start of the winter season, and the number of confirmed cases is rising. Since the start of flu season in October 2019, 2,768,000 cases across the country have been confirmed by laboratory tests, according to data from InfluNet published on January 19.

A total of 488,000 cases were reported last week alone, signalling that flu season is hitting its peak in January as predicted. 240 deaths have so far been reported, slightly lower than the expected 258. Most of the fatal cases are elderly patients who suffered complications after contracting the virus."

240 deaths from 2.8 million cases. Meanwhile 463 people have died from Coronavirus in the past 17 days from 9,172 cases, with another 733 people in critical condition.

Just like the flu.

Seasonal flu varies between years regards how aggressive it is. Is this year mild? I don’t know but considering it’s below predictions I’ll let you decide. It’s not seasonal flu but it certainly the end of days. For instance SARS was 3-4 times as bad. MERS was as bad.


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Deportivo Seagull

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Jul 22, 2003
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Boris Johnson is doing fine, because he recognizes that he isn't an infectious diseases/medical/science expert, and he is deferring to those who are.

Not only is that the right approach, but the fact that he doesn't feel the need (as some politicians might) to pretend that he is the one who is running the show, means he is putting his medical and scientific advisers front and centre, and they are explaining their decision making without assuming people are too stupid to understand, which is also reassuring IMO.

He’s not prime minister material either but that doesn’t appear to have stopped him .....

He would get lost in Boots.


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studio150

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Jul 30, 2011
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It seems that when the UK moves to the next phase of this virus outbreak, people will be told to self-isolate for even a minor cough or cold.

Is it just me or does this seem totally over the top and unnecessary. I could understand that if you had flu like symptoms with a cough that you should isolate, but what if you have a smokers cough, self-isolation. Something gets caught in your throat, cough - self-isolation.

If you fancy a couple of weeks off work, this will be an open invitation, "Hi Boss, I coughed this morning so given the Governments instructions I won't be in for a couple of weeks, bye"

I can't see this being adhered to by many people, who will still get out and about, particularly those who would receive no sick pay, but still feel well enough to work.
 


Diablo

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Not sure if I've been crossed off your trenches list, but I certainly consider myself level-headed. I'm not panicking - we have no extra bog rolls, packs of pasta nor tins of beans. We're doing everything we would normally do, and have no intention of changing that.

I don't think we're all going to die. I think the chances of the health of me and my family being impacted are tiny.

That doesn't mean I don't have significant concerns for many others - the vulnerable and those working on the frontline of the NHS.

That I could just hunker down and watch Netflix for a few weeks is neither here nor there.

Sorry to disappoint you. We are all going to die !!
 


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