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Swansman

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May 13, 2019
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So you think our government are locking down the country in an effort to put us in huge debt, so they can make money selling off assets to private companies. If you look at the US, Trump mostly wants re-election, and to get that he doesn't want the economy stuffed, but he too knows they need lockdown in some areas. He's desperate to end the lockdown, and doesn't care that it will cause thousands of deaths, because he needs the economy more than he needs people to live. And what about China? They had a massive lockdown, which hurt their economy, but stopped the spread of the virus. Are they too planning to go into debt in order to sell of China to private enterprise? No, of course not.

No, I'm not thinking anything (well I am but not on this specific subject) - I was just looking at it theoretically when you asked the fella about the why someone would want to hurt the own economy. I find it an interesting subject since the Swedish government selling our elderly care to private investors are now employed by these same investors. No personal viewpoints on this regarding your Covid-lockdown. If anything I honestly believe your government is doing the best they can to solve this specific problem.

Do we need to make yet another splinter thread?

“Coronavirus Conspiracy Theories”?

I think it was excellent by Rossy to give us tinfoilers a playground so that this thread could go back to normal, but it seems a lot of you kept going here anyway (even with me, one of the main tinfoil derailing offenders, moving to the 5G thread). :shrug:
 




Guinness Boy

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That WAS a joke :ffsparr:

You should get out more, you’re anger is showing Mr “Have a go at everyone that doesn’t agree with me”.

Which bit? The actual post or the 5 GCSEs?

You don't seem to have a grasp of basic humour either way but then you're an under 30 revelling in a picture of Nige in a suit. Talk about needing to get out more.
 


He states 'it includes the hospital death rate AND the total death rate. And then goes on to state that the ONS figures include all fatalities. This means it includes those at home that have been diagnosed by a doctor, but not tested. At no point does he say hospital deaths are untested :facepalm:

Do you not think you may get more support for your conspiracy theories here ? https://nortr3nixy.nimpr.uk/showthread.php?380003-5G-and-Coronavirus
Exactly its the o n s figures
 


Titanic

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Jul 5, 2003
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52604676

Coronavirus: Germany infection rate rises as lockdown eases


Coronavirus infections are rising in Germany, official data shows, just days after the country eased its lockdown restrictions.

According to the Robert Koch Institute (RKI), Germany's reproduction rate - the number of people each confirmed patient infects - is now above 1.

This means the number of infections is now rising in the country.

The report came as thousands of Germans gathered on Saturday calling for a total end to the lockdown.

Chancellor Angela Merkel announced a broad relaxation of national restrictions on Wednesday after talks with the leaders of Germany's 16 states.

All shops are allowed to reopen, pupils will gradually return to class and the Bundesliga - Germany's top football league - will restart as soon as next weekend.

But there were protests across the country on Saturday, as some called for measures to be lifted even quicker.

Germany has the seventh-highest number of confirmed cases in the world, with latest RKI data on Sunday showing the reported infected tally at 169,218 and a reported death toll of 7,395.
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
53,139
Goldstone
No, I'm not thinking anything (well I am but not on this specific subject) - I was just looking at it theoretically when you asked the fella about the why someone would want to hurt the own economy. I find it an interesting subject since the Swedish government selling our elderly care to private investors are now employed by these same investors.
Yeah, that's a more simple and easy to understand vested interest decision. But it would be quite a leap for those politicians to have completely ****ed you're economy to the extent that the country had to sell the care, in order that they get the jobs.

The idea that our government is making up the deaths, in order to enforce a lockdown that doesn't help our health, in order to crash our economy, in order to then sell off assets to mates, is straight out of cloud cuckoo land.


No personal viewpoints on this regarding your Covid-lockdown. If anything I honestly believe your government is doing the best they can to solve this specific problem.
Indeed. Not necessarily a good job, but I imagine they're trying.
 






BeHereNow

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Mar 2, 2016
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Southwick
Which bit? The actual post or the 5 GCSEs?

You don't seem to have a grasp of basic humour either way but then you're an under 30 revelling in a picture of Nige in a suit. Talk about needing to get out more.

GSCE bit, it was a reference to Oasis, which is what I said.

Yes, one of you have mentioned Nigel before, it seems you can’t take losing. If that was meant to be an insult, then try again.
 


beorhthelm

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Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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A FB post which contains several accounts of people who’s relatives have gone to hospital with no covid symptoms, died, and been related to covid:


https://www.facebook.com/100008008950029/posts/2634872243456382/?d=n

These Brighton ‘off gridders’ agree with you about over counting of covid deaths.

They also angry about “NHS staff routinely putting Covid patients on ventilators, which have been identified by numerous high-ranking whistleblower doctors as the perilously wrong treatment. The aggressive, invasive intubations of the ventilation process traumatise the lungs and induce heart arrhythmias. Most ventilated patients die”.

NHS staff making wacky dance videos also make them seethe, apparently they showing no compassion or sensitivity towards the ruined UK lives and livelihoods.

Use of the term off-gridders makes me laugh. They’re people who choose to live independently of utilities, normally in remote places.
 




BeHereNow

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Mar 2, 2016
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I think you mean: 'Don't Look Back in Anger'.
I'll say one thing for you, you're rigidly consistent, Mr Greengroce'r.

Whoops! That’s what happens what one is replying quickly to all of one’s fans.

Let that anger flow.
 


Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
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GSCE bit, it was a reference to Oasis, which is what I said.

Yes, one of you have mentioned Nigel before, it seems you can’t take losing. If that was meant to be an insult, then try again.

"One of you"? Is there more than one of me then? **** me. My poor wife. And imagine the NSC traffic. :wozza:

"Can't take losing". Losing what exactly? What the merry **** do you perceive that I've lost? An argument on the internet to someone who took over a day to reply with an Oasis reference? Did [MENTION=30583]RossyG[/MENTION] tell you what to put? He seems to be the brains of the operation. Talking of which, what ARE your actual qualifications? Are you a GP? A coroner? An epidemiologist? Or some sad fu**er from Southwick who's watched three different YouTube videos and thinks that's made you Russell Brand?
 


Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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Oct 8, 2003
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Wow. Boris has explained what 'alert' means. It means 'alert'.

There will be a Covid alert system. It wil be defined by R. We will respond according to that.

Five alert levels. We have been in level 4. We are in aposition to begin moving into level 3.

We must reverse the epidemic in care homes. More to be done.

We need to have a testing system.

So much more to do now, and we can.

We are shining the light of science on this invisible killer.

R is potentially only just below 1

Change of emphasis.....

Ah, here we go....if your work requires you to go to work you should. But we will bring in new measures for social distancing.

OK, so builders, shopworkers...bus drivers.....teachers? Seriously? ???
 


BeHereNow

New member
Mar 2, 2016
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Southwick
"One of you"? Is there more than one of me then? **** me. My poor wife. And imagine the NSC traffic. :wozza:

"Can't take losing". Losing what exactly? What the merry **** do you perceive that I've lost? An argument on the internet to someone who took over a day to reply with an Oasis reference? Did [MENTION=30583]RossyG[/MENTION] tell you what to put? He seems to be the brains of the operation. Talking of which, what ARE your actual qualifications? Are you a GP? A coroner? An epidemiologist? Or some sad fu**er from Southwick who's watched three different YouTube videos and thinks that's made you Russell Brand?

:lolol: Brilliant.

The fact that Nigel Farage irks you probably means you voted to remain in the EU, but leave won, so you lost.

Didn’t take a day to reply, I only saw your reply today, I don’t spend every hour on here and pretend to be some kind of police officer like some.

What a strange character you are, and you’re supposed to be a mod. No wonder so many people quit this place.

Ironically, you remind me of one of my best mates who I argue with every time I see him. We agree on most things, but disagree on a lot, yet we don’t result to insults like petty little children.
 


WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
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Apparently he's considering bringing in controls on people entering the UK. Wonder where that idea came from?

Maybe he mentioned the crisis in Care Homes and I missed it. *edit* I did, we are going to reverse it. Don't suppose he said how?

But at least we have a new slogan :thumbsup:
 






Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
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Jul 16, 2003
58,792
hassocks
People going back to work that can tomorrow?

That is incredibly short notice and why it should have been last week.

Trying to get as many of furlough as possible.
 


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