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wellquickwoody

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Aug 10, 2007
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We should do what Oz and NZ have done .... anyone coming in 14 days quarantine. Until that happens we never get rid of it. A small but significant move imo

Quarantine for citizens and permanent residents only. No one else can now come in, border closed.
 




dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
55,593
Burgess Hill
Haven't looked at the detail behind the estimates (probably impenetrable anyway) but very few people get to the point of needing a ventilator anyway so its absence and/or lack of general healthcare is probably not a big factor in its mortality rate.

What's probably a bigger factor is the mortality rate of people without covid19 who can't get care because the system is overwhelmed.


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Good point...was chatting about this yesterday. Loads of people not going to hospital now because they are either naturally too scared, or don’t want to burden the system. As well as a lot of unnecessary deaths there will be a lot of very sick (non Covid) people going into hospital when this eases.........
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,273
Looks like being a very bad day in the US, New York state already has over 10,000 new cases today.
 


Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
53,203
Goldstone
Looks like being a very bad day in the US, New York state already has over 10,000 new cases today.
That must be the light at the end of the tunnel that Trump was seeing :rolleyes:
 


Sorrel

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Jul 5, 2003
2,942
Back in East Sussex
Quarantine for citizens and permanent residents only. No one else can now come in, border closed.
Not going to be easy with that Irish border. Australia and New Zealand are distant from everywhere else enough that people can't easily get in a dingy and cross the sea to them.

And I think our government feel that full isolation with cause major damage to the economy. My guess is that we will relax lockdown and then get increasing cases in the major cities, then put the lockdown back - and only the consider trying to prevent people coming in. It might even take twice for this until the government get the message.
 




Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,479
Brighton
Sadly my brother-in-law's Grandmother passed away in the early hours of the morning.

Rest In Peace Gwen x
 


Kinky Gerbil

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Jul 16, 2003
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Not going to be easy with that Irish border. Australia and New Zealand are distant from everywhere else enough that people can't easily get in a dingy and cross the sea to them.

And I think our government feel that full isolation with cause major damage to the economy. My guess is that we will relax lockdown and then get increasing cases in the major cities, then put the lockdown back - and only the consider trying to prevent people coming in. It might even take twice for this until the government get the message.

I don’t think people will go back into lockdown.

They need to get this one right.
 


Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,479
Brighton
I don’t think people will go back into lockdown.

They need to get this one right.

Agree it would be a lot less effective a second time around, with more unrest.

If it means we end up staying in this initial lockdown an extra 1-2 weeks more than we really "needed" to in hindsight, so be it. It's worth it.
 






Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,479
Brighton
Spain's new daily number 396, down from 655 the day before.

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Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,479
Brighton
Sorry to hear that, makes you realise every statistic is a human being!

Not that it makes her death "okay" of course, but she was elderly and had been in hospital a number of times over the past few months with various other issues. So whilst it is obviously very sad, at least it did not come as a complete shock. She was able to say her goodbyes, thankfully.
 






darkwolf666

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Nov 8, 2015
7,656
Sittingbourne, Kent
Not that it makes her death "okay" of course, but she was elderly and had been in hospital a number of times over the past few months with various other issues. So whilst it is obviously very sad, at least it did not come as a complete shock. She was able to say her goodbyes, thankfully.

:love: best emoji I could find for this situation
 






GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
49,188
Gloucester
Good point...was chatting about this yesterday. Loads of people not going to hospital now because they are either naturally too scared, or don’t want to burden the system. As well as a lot of unnecessary deaths there will be a lot of very sick (non Covid) people going into hospital when this eases.........

Lot of cancer deaths too, because of out-patient appointments cancelled and patients subsequently only being diagnosed three months too late.
 






Rugrat

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Mar 13, 2011
10,224
Seaford
Not going to be easy with that Irish border. Australia and New Zealand are distant from everywhere else enough that people can't easily get in a dingy and cross the sea to them.

And I think our government feel that full isolation with cause major damage to the economy. My guess is that we will relax lockdown and then get increasing cases in the major cities, then put the lockdown back - and only the consider trying to prevent people coming in. It might even take twice for this until the government get the message.

I really don't get why we can't follow the example of Oz, NZ, S Korea and others and I'm not sure there is a major economic impact by doing so. These are generally citizens returning from wherever they are. Although 14 days cooped up in a hotel room is pretty unpleasant people do have a choice.

I don't have a lot of sympathy for those left overseas ... they have had plenty of time to get back, indeed I'm sure many left whilst this was going on (there will be exceptions to that of course)
 




Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
This sunny, warm week in Sweden is going to turn into a complete slaugther in a few weeks.. Everywhere in Stockholm, by far worst off in the country, the people are crowding the outdoor seatings... apart for the plenty of ones now going everywhere around the country to celebrate whatever the fck we're celebrating at Easter.
 


jackanada

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2011
3,510
Brighton
One thing that people seem to be ignoring is that Italy is NOT a "first world country" by anything other than name. It's a gangster run group of areas and it has ZERO cohesion when it comes to government, education, law, tax and certainly healthcare.

Basically it's a bit like America but with no money.

It's not really a surprise that the Italians have managed to make a total b####cks of this.

So now that we're running a daily death rate greater than the Italians ever reached and we're probably a week or more off peaking let's have your view on this country
 


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