Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[Triggaaar]

I agree, over the last couple of the days the numbers of people being recorded with having coronavirus has come down in China

That's because they're all dead.

 

[Triggaaar]

That doesn't really make sense. Either you have the virus or you don't.

That's what I'd have thought (being fully aware that I'm not knowledgeable about these things).

 

[Bold Seagull]

i'm not joining in with histrionics

that's because they're all dead.

 

[Triggaaar]

.



:d

Indeed, sense of humour alive and well.

 

[Triggaaar]

Again?

They're being tested again tomorrow.

 

[Soylent Blue]

I agree, over the last couple of the days the numbers of people being recorded with having coronavirus has come down in China, however it is still very early days.

The number of new infections has come down which is not the same thing, the problem is this virus can lurk in you for up to 24 days and then you can suffer the effects for up to 3 weeks. This is a slow burning problem and it will be a couple of weeks before we get a clearer picture.

 

[dingodan]

If of the 44,000 cases in China, only 4-5,000 cases have had a resolution (either recovery or death), and 1,000+ have died, how confident can we be about the suggested fatality rate of 2%?

It sounds like the majority of cases have yet to run their course.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I'm not joining in with histrionics, but are you really suggesting that there's nothing to worry about because one person hasn't died from it?

No. I am saying that the person who caught it in Singapore has completely recovered. I have also posted that someone who he was in contact with hasn’t caught it from him.
As you say, there is some hysteria, so I thought I would try to add some balance. I also posted, way back, I caught Asian flu in 1967, whilst sharing a mess with 6 other people, and none of them caught it from me.

 

[Pondicherry]

The numbers being reported in China were never accurate except perhaps in the very early stages. They don't have the capacity to test the numbers of people who have the virus now. The Chinese media have admitted the following:

Chinese media confirms that asymptomatic cases of coronavirus are now excluded from the government's official count. This contradicts WHO guidelines. It's unknown how many asymptomatic cases there are.

This will obviously impact the figures

 

[Pondicherry]

This is what the Singapore PM said today and is almost certainly where China is now and where we are headed. This would also explain the drop in Chinese numbers if they are following this strategy. They are only counting severe cases now.

Straight from the Prime Minster's Office

"If the numbers keep growing, at some point we will have to reconsider our strategy. If the virus is widespread, it is futile to try to trace every contact. If we still hospitalize and isolate every suspect case, our hospitals will be overwhelmed. At that point, provided the fatality rate stays low like flu, we should shift our approach. Encourage those who only have mild symptoms to see their family GP, and rest at home instead of going to the hospital. And let hospitals and healthcare workers focus on the most vulnerable patients, the elderly, young children, and those with medical complications. We're not at that point yet, It might or may not happen, but we are thinking ahead, and anticipating the next few steps. And I am sharing these possibilities with you, so that we are all mentally prepared for what may come"

 

[Solid at the back]

This is what the Singapore PM said today and is almost certainly where China is now and where we are headed. This would also explain the drop in Chinese numbers if they are following this strategy. They are only counting severe cases now.

Straight from the Prime Minster's Office

"If the numbers keep growing, at some point we will have to reconsider our strategy. If the virus is widespread, it is futile to try to trace every contact. If we still hospitalize and isolate every suspect case, our hospitals will be overwhelmed. At that point, provided the fatality rate stays low like flu, we should shift our approach. Encourage those who only have mild symptoms to see their family GP, and rest at home instead of going to the hospital. And let hospitals and healthcare workers focus on the most vulnerable patients, the elderly, young children, and those with medical complications. We're not at that point yet, It might or may not happen, but we are thinking ahead, and anticipating the next few steps. And I am sharing these possibilities with you, so that we are all mentally prepared for what may come"

Is this good or bad, I'm so lost on this now.
This virus has got my anxiety so bad the Mrs and my mum recommended I see a doc, so I did and they've signed me off work and given me propranolol. I'm just worried as have an 11 month old child that I'm worried I couldn't protect if they got it, also my mum has severe asthma and my sister has travelled through China in last 2 weeks so I've been a wreck. Just hope this passes

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Is this good or bad, I'm so lost on this now.
This virus has got my anxiety so bad the Mrs and my mum recommended I see a doc, so I did and they've signed me off work and given me propranolol. I'm just worried as have an 11 month old child that I'm worried I couldn't protect if they got it, also my mum has severe asthma and my sister has travelled through China in last 2 weeks so I've been a wreck. Just hope this passes

My brother suffers from bad anxiety. Best thing for you is get off the internet for a few days. I know it's hard, but out of sight out of mind.

 

[The Clamp]

One of two things will happen.
You’ll either get it. Or you won’t.
Carry on.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

One of two things will happen.
You’ll either get it. Or you won’t.
Carry on.

That's all you can do.

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

One definition of “flu” has always stayed with me and that is; “If you are in bed and there is a £50 note by an open window which could blow away, without hope of retrieval, and you can’t be bothered to get to it, then you have the flu” Anything else is a bad cold. What any strain of flu does, to be deadly, is attack those already in ill respiratory heath, those with compromised immune symptoms and the very elderly. The difference is that we already have vaccines against known strains of flu, but not against this one. It will come but not without significant casualties.

 

[knocky1]

One definition of “flu” has always stayed with me and that is; “If you are in bed and there is a £50 note by an open window which could blow away, without hope of retrieval, and you can’t be bothered to get to it, then you have the flu” Anything else is a bad cold. What any strain of flu does, to be deadly, is attack those already in ill respiratory heath, those with compromised immune symptoms and the very elderly. The difference is that we already have vaccines against known strains of flu, but not against this one. It will come but not without significant casualties.

Exactly. If you’re unable to tell the wife to shut the ******* window, you are in trouble.

 

[London Irish]

alright it’s a big sacrifice but i will no longer kiss and hug my fellow NSC’ers - just til all this passes

 

[Triggaaar]

No. I am saying that the person who caught it in Singapore has completely recovered. I have also posted that someone who he was in contact with hasn’t caught it from him.

As you say, there is some hysteria, so I thought I would try to add some balance.

Yeah I don't think it's working. He passed it on to at least 11 people. Obviously there will have been people he didn't pass it on to. And he didn't die, so he'll be one of the 98% (or so) who don't die from it.

 

[Triggaaar]

Is this good or bad, I'm so lost on this now.

If you're hoping for an end to the human race, it's great news!

This virus has got my anxiety so bad the Mrs and my mum recommended I see a doc, so I did and they've signed me off work and given me propranolol.

Seriously? If you are being serious, chill the **** out. Stop reading up on it, stop looking at the media who are sensationalising it as they have papers (etc) to sell.

I'm just worried as have an 11 month old child that I'm worried I couldn't protect if they got it

Just have good hygiene habits.

also my mum has severe asthma

She should also be hygienic.

and my sister has travelled through China in last 2 weeks so I've been a wreck.

Perhaps don't have her round to see holiday pictures just yet, and perhaps suggest that she doesn't come home and see your mum straight away.

 

[Triggaaar]

What any strain of flu does, to be deadly, is attack those already in ill respiratory heath, those with compromised immune symptoms and the very elderly.

Like the 33-year-old Chinese doctor?