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Wozza

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Jul 6, 2003
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Not really a surprise, many of the newly diagnosed would have been exposed around a week ago or possibly more. When did Italy go into full lock down?

Well, quite. Six days is the mean average incubation period. Can be up to two weeks, I believe.

They went into lockdown on Monday. Large, cross-generational lock-ins.
 




Guinness Boy

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"I'm alright Jack" is a tired and needy phrase.

There is no certainty that anyone is alright. We can broadly say the young and fit will be fine and the old and compromised won't. There will be exceptions in both groups. No one really knows what will happen with the young and compromised or old and fit. I could be writing this today and dead in a week for all I know. However, I know my best chance is to believe in the CMO who happens to be an expert in rare and tropical disease (I don't trust BoJo, I just believe that he's currently listening to this guy). And I know the best chance of long term survival for vulnerable people in this country is to not have another recession (because I believe austerity will still have killed far more than covid-19 once it is all done) and to build immunity and get a vaccine asap so that today's slightly compromised 60 year old doesn't become tomorrow's covid-19 walking dead.

Far too many people only seeing the picture as it is today. IMHO like.
 


Guinness Boy

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I've seen some reference to older people taking chloroquine for rheumatoid arthritis having some resistance to this virus, which is being investigated.
I hope it is true because I take hydroxychloroquine for my auto immune disease.

Let's hope so TB :thumbsup:
 


Hampster Gull

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Too much blaming, finger pointing.

We are all personally accountable for our own well being. Take personal responsibility. If you have the symptoms, or feel nervous, self isolate. If you don’t keep going, avoid the vulnerable as much as you possibly can.

There is no magic bullet. Im not sure how long Italy will have to self isolate, and then when they don’t they are vulnerable again. no country has the answers.
 






daveinplzen

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Complete shut down here now. Apart from food stores and chemists No foreigners allowed in, only perm resident holders, and nobody allowed out of the country from midnight tomorrow . [MENTION=30242]spence[/MENTION] good timing mate. Took a personal turn for me today. The laces on my 'comfy' shoes snapped. I was fairly irrational about it for 10 minutes


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83S-fy-fHEo&t=193s
 


Driver8

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As part of a plan based on reducing the curve. You know their are further stages to their plan that they presented on Thursday? Are people seriously not digging into things further than headlines and sound bites?

Why do we continue to allow unrestricted arrivals at all of our airports? Delay my arse. They want it over asap and tough to those who don’t see the other side.
 


dingodan

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Not sure how good my logic is here, but if we are 4 weeks behind Italy, and we are expected to reach peak in June, does that mean Italy's numbers will keep going up at this rate (infact exponentially faster if we are talking about a bell curve) all the way to May?
 




Bold Seagull

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Why do we continue to allow unrestricted arrivals at all of our airports? Delay my arse. They want it over asap and tough to those who don’t see the other side.

So if you’re concluding they want it over asap, you must see them as failing at their own plan given we’re well behind so many other countries. :shrug:
 


Driver8

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So if you’re concluding they want it over asap, you must see them as failing at their own plan given we’re well behind so many other countries. :shrug:

Seeing as we have stopped counting infections now I’m not sure how we know for sure. Don’t worry though we’ll be catching up on the death count very soon.
 


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Italy, 3497 new cases today. That's crazy
Think my relatives will be OK as they live in a village away from Naples.
 
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Mellotron

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Jul 2, 2008
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Anyone on here infected with this yet?

So hard to know isn’t it, given symptoms can be as mild as to be almost non existent.

I’ve had a mild fever for the last 2/3 days (clammy legs in bed at night), today I’ve had aching legs while driving - pretty rare for me. And now a cough.

I probably haven’t, but still thinking whether I should go into work on Monday or not. I’ve got myself set up to work at home if needed, which is useful.
 


dingodan

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So hard to know isn’t it, given symptoms can be as mild as to be almost non existent.

I’ve had a mild fever for the last 2/3 days (clammy legs in bed at night), today I’ve had aching legs while driving - pretty rare for me. And now a cough.

I probably haven’t, but still thinking whether I should go into work on Monday or not. I’ve got myself set up to work at home if needed, which is useful.

If you have a persistent cough the instruction is to self isolate for 7 days.
 


RossyG

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So hard to know isn’t it, given symptoms can be as mild as to be almost non existent.

I’ve had a mild fever for the last 2/3 days (clammy legs in bed at night), today I’ve had aching legs while driving - pretty rare for me. And now a cough.

I probably haven’t, but still thinking whether I should go into work on Monday or not. I’ve got myself set up to work at home if needed, which is useful.

I’d stay at home if I were you. Coughs and muscle aches are two symptoms.

Best wishes for a speedy recovery either way. :smile:
 




Sorrel

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Jul 5, 2003
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So hard to know isn’t it, given symptoms can be as mild as to be almost non existent.

I’ve had a mild fever for the last 2/3 days (clammy legs in bed at night), today I’ve had aching legs while driving - pretty rare for me. And now a cough.

I probably haven’t, but still thinking whether I should go into work on Monday or not. I’ve got myself set up to work at home if needed, which is useful.
It would be best if we all acted like we had got it.
 


Bold Seagull

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Seeing as we have stopped counting infections now I’m not sure how we know for sure. Don’t worry though we’ll be catching up on the death count very soon.

Sadly that is true, but that is going to be the same in most places unfortunately, lock downs or not. Arguably the biggest weapon we have is information, tracking patients and utilising technology to help authorities. This is arguably where Italy struggled, they were slow in testing admitted patients and slow in identifying spreaders. Behind the scenes to this point we’ve been pretty good at it. Think Hove Super Spreader, everyone he even remotely got close to tracked and monitored. We’ve not had an explosion in Sussex. Italy it exploded before they knew.

It’s going to grow everywhere regardless of flights being stopped on not. We’re going to see if there really is a great difference between strategies. Take China and South Korea, massive risk for them now is a twin peak ie they reached an epidemic peak, it starts to drop, as they get back to more normal life, it peaks again, possibly with worse consequences than just trying to flatten out a single peak.
 


Bold Seagull

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Mar 18, 2010
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So hard to know isn’t it, given symptoms can be as mild as to be almost non existent.

I’ve had a mild fever for the last 2/3 days (clammy legs in bed at night), today I’ve had aching legs while driving - pretty rare for me. And now a cough.

I probably haven’t, but still thinking whether I should go into work on Monday or not. I’ve got myself set up to work at home if needed, which is useful.

Even a mild fever and cough, got to take the advice and isolate.:thumbsup:
 


Thunder Bolt

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So hard to know isn’t it, given symptoms can be as mild as to be almost non existent.

I’ve had a mild fever for the last 2/3 days (clammy legs in bed at night), today I’ve had aching legs while driving - pretty rare for me. And now a cough.

I probably haven’t, but still thinking whether I should go into work on Monday or not. I’ve got myself set up to work at home if needed, which is useful.

A cough and a fever means self isolating for 7 days. If you can work from home, then do so.
 






Bodian

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I've seen some reference to older people taking chloroquine for rheumatoid arthritis having some resistance to this virus, which is being investigated.
I hope it is true because I take hydroxychloroquine for my auto immune disease.

That's interesting. My wife has various auto-immune issues and is on hydroxychloroquine. Despite her immune system being severely compromised she virtually never picks up viral things like flu / colds, etc. Whereas I do. So, there may well be something in it.
 


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