M & S pander to this crazy world !

[daveinprague]

and that dodgy looking bloke in the corner shop...I'm sure hes a muslim.. his turban isnt fooling me.

 

[Gullys Cats]

Crazy shit!!

 

[sydney]

what about the meek...?

 

[pastafarian]

The year 2014 is nearly upon us.

And yet in these enlightened times there are still people on here (mostly through a misguided servitude to political leaning and political correctness as opposed to common sense)who feel not only the need to protect religious dogma but also blindly defend outdated religious thinking with the deluded idea they are being tolerant and progressive, defending the right of certain sections of society to promote ideas that are simply divisive and that have beliefs that should rightly have been consigned to the dustbin centuries ago.

It is plain to see who the fools are in this debate and they are trying very hard to take over the asylum.

Merry ****ing Christmas indeed

 

[daveinprague]

Not really, this is about M&S HR policies for their workers......

Muslims, Jews, and Chrisitians having the right to respect their religion...
I personally think all religion is shit, but if people want to be god botherers in various religions, ill defend their right.

 

[Soulman]

Did you actually read the story Soulman, or did you go with 'knee-jerk' ?

Yes. Which is why i gave my opinion on it.
I may be wrong here but have Muslim shop owners not been selling bottles of wine, cigarettes and packets of bacon for the best part of 50 years in this country? and thankfully they'll all be open in the morning to get the stuff you forgot today.
A four pack of Stella and a packet of bacon makes an ideal last minute Christmas present.

 

[BadFish]

The year 2014 is nearly upon us.

And yet in these enlightened times there are still people on here (mostly through a misguided servitude to political leaning and political correctness as opposed to common sense)who feel not only the need to protect religious dogma but also blindly defend outdated religious thinking with the deluded idea they are being tolerant and progressive, defending the right of certain sections of society to promote ideas that are simply divisive and that have beliefs that should rightly have been consigned to the dustbin centuries ago.

It is plain to see who the fools are in this debate and they are trying very hard to take over the asylum.

Merry ****ing Christmas indeed

Either that or a thread of hysterical over reactions about a whole lot of nothing.

Did anyone actually get refused service?

 

[Soulman]

The year 2014 is nearly upon us.

And yet in these enlightened times there are still people on here (mostly through a misguided servitude to political leaning and political correctness as opposed to common sense)who feel not only the need to protect religious dogma but also blindly defend outdated religious thinking with the deluded idea they are being tolerant and progressive, defending the right of certain sections of society to promote ideas that are simply divisive and that have beliefs that should rightly have been consigned to the dustbin centuries ago.

It is plain to see who the fools are in this debate and they are trying very hard to take over the asylum.

Merry ****ing Christmas indeed

Yep.

 

[daveinprague]

Yes. Which is why i gave my opinion on it.
I may be wrong here but have Muslim shop owners not been selling bottles of wine, cigarettes and packets of bacon for the best part of 50 years in this country? and thankfully they'll all be open in the morning to get the stuff you forgot today.
A four pack of Stella and a packet of bacon makes an ideal last minute Christmas present.

This isnt just about muslims.....its about M&S HR policies for their workers.

It is also there for Jews who would be possibly offended by handling pork products...it is also there for Christians, who do not want to work on Sundays etc..

To focus just on muslims is a bit daft considering the actual issue we are talking about.....but obviously there are people on NSC who want to push their agendas at every opportunity here.

 

[BadFish]

an M&S spokesman said: “We recognise that some of our employees practise religions that restrict the food or drink they can handle, or that mean they cannot work at certain times.

“M&S promotes an environment free from discrimination and so, where specific requests are made, we will always make reasonable adjustments to accommodate them, whilst ensuring high levels of customer service.”

The spokesman said the policy applied throughout its 700-plus stores and to other religions as well.

For example, Christians who did not want to work on Sundays and religious Jews who chose not to work on Saturdays would also be excused.

Nice of them to let people practice their religions really. i assume they are accommodating and flexible when it comes to other workers situations. They sound like a good employer.

 

[daveinprague]

what about the meek...?

What you got against the Greeks!!

 

[pastafarian]

Did anyone actually get refused service?

Yes

 

[BadFish]

Yes

really? where was that? I missed that bit.

 

[Soulman]

This isnt just about muslims.....its about M&S HR policies for their workers.

It is also there for Jews who would be possibly offended by handling pork products...it is also there for Christians, who do not want to work on Sundays etc..

To focus just on muslims is a bit daft considering the actual issue we are talking about.....

Well when i see Jews, Buddhists, Christians, Hindus, Sikhs etc etc, keep being offended at every opportunity and refusing in this instance, to serve products that are being sold in an establishment that sells these products, then i shall have the same opinion as i have now.

 

[daveinprague]

Well when i see Jews, Buddhists, Christians, Hindus, Sikhs etc etc, keep being offended at every opportunity and refusing in this instance, to serve products that are being sold in an establishment that sells these products, then i shall have the same opinion as i have now.

Fair enough...dont let any FACTS get in the way of your clear prejudice.


One day, I imagine somebody will compile a list of all these cases of Muslims being 'offended'...haha

 

[pastafarian]

really? where was that? I missed that bit.

London

 

[BadFish]

London

Thanks your very helpful

Merry Christmas

 

[daveinprague]

they were not 'refused service'...they were invited to go to a different till, im sure.

 

[BadFish]

they were not 'refused service'...they were invited to go to a different till, im sure.

The policy was revealed after customers trying to buy pork or alcohol from a Muslim shop assistant in central London were told they would have to use another till because of the cashier's religion.

having to use another till is outrageous!!

Unless you have over 12/15 items, have to pay in cash or the checkout attendant is stopping for lunch in which case it is fine.

 

[daveinprague]

Not a trivial story is it...much.