Yes and no. I bet they are thanking the cameraman who just about caught them predicting today's events before filming proper started.Pity it’s recorded on Thursdays…..
A Labour or coalition government would automatically be better than the current shitshow. Mainly because the Tories are being run by a populist far right sect who have to keep the Brexit banner flying to justify their mandate, with all the decent majority of moderate 'real conservatives' cast to the margins. A new party would at least be unified and can choose the best cabinet based on alll the elected politicians available, not loons, opportunists, shapeshifters, who are generally in the pockets of the super rich.Until the opposition come up with something better.
They only had a choice of two. I guess for some reason (can't think what), the mostly elderly white members took against the alternative to Truss.
Sunak must be chuckling away at all this.
A Labour or coalition government would automatically be better than the current shitshow. Mainly because the Tories are being run by a populist far right sect who have to keep the Brexit banner flying to justify their mandate, with all the decent majority of moderate 'real conservatives' cast to the margins. A new party would at least be unified and can choose the best cabinet based on alll the elected politicians available, not loons, opportunists, shapeshifters, who are generally in the pockets of the super rich.
Andrew Marr fairly confident the games up………
But what happens to us all during that decade with the other lot in power?He did another piece recently about how Brexit continues to split the party and it was very perceptive.
This is where Labour have an advantage over them. The Tories simply can't agree on what it means, whilst Labour can continue with their "we will pick up the pieces" message.
Where she is out of her depth is not so much as the role of Prime Minister, but picking up the pieces of the damage Brexit and Johnson have caused the party.
Both won them a huge majority but have inflicted large wounds that were always going to become infected over time.
They need a decade out of power to reinvent themselves.
But what happens to us all during that decade with the other lot in power?
Unfortunately at 58 and a bit of a cynic it’s almost a choice between sickness or the s****?
Disagree. The problem, as always, is Brexit. Their 2019 80 seat election win was to make Brexit happen come hell or high water. The decent princinpled Conservatives sit in the shadows, they are only left with the very few chancers, shapeshifters and loons.Definitely not "populist far right", with so many ethnic minorities represented at senior level.
It's far more complex than that with arguments between the home secretary who wants to limit immigration and the PM and her (neo-liberal disaster capitalist mates) who effectively want to increase it.
The Conservative party is now a number of waring factions even on Brexit. Those who think it's all about taking back the UK to a pre-Brexit "Golden Age" and those who just wanted the EU out the way so they can radically restructure the economy.
Johnson was quite a good cover because politically he was simultaneously able to express all of the views and none of them in a single paragraph.
They don't know what they stand for anymore.
I find it extraordinary that they are acting like a party that has very recently been dumped out of power, but they are in power.
Labour have allowed that to happen with their own internal in-fighting. Probably sorted them themselves out enough to win the next election, but it's a long way off.
If the sensible ones take back control of the Tories, Labour will need to fight a bit harder to offer an alternative rather than sit back and watch the Tories implode.
Starmer to his credit did hit a national nerve with the promise of a nationally owned energy company.
Sorry, but even as a remain voter I don't think for a second that another referendum would have united the country. It would have split it further. And Corbyn would have been as bad as Truss. You can see for yourself how someone who is all about ideology and has no leadership skills at all is fairing.Disagree. The problem, as always, is Brexit. Their 2019 80 seat election win was to make Brexit happen come hell or high water. The decent princinpled Conservatives sit in the shadows, they are only left with the very few chancers, shapeshifters and loons.
If they wanted to admit they were wrong about Brexit and need to go back to true centre right conservatives, unite the party then they need a public mandate, a general election. No one calls a snap election if they know they will get smashed.
Theresa May called a snap election because she needed a bigger majority to push her brexit deal through parliament
Actually Labour, especially Corbyn, were spot on about resolving the Brexit deadlock. A 2nd referendum and a deal which kept us in the customs union and single market. He said you can't serve half the electorate's wants and ignore the other half, you have to find a solution that works for everyone and unite the country
the cause of the last four weeks go back to 2016 and david "we're all in this together" cameron.No, it's just become exponentially worse in the last four weeks.
Actually Labour, especially Corbyn, were spot on about resolving the Brexit deadlock. A 2nd referendum and a deal which kept us in the customs union and single market. He said you can't serve half the electorate's wants and ignore the other half, you have to find a solution that works for everyone and unite the country, and they would have "actually" got brexit done
you're ok voting for the tory magic money tree?no one likes tax. i know no one who would pay more tax than what they are asked to pay. its a means to an end. the flip side is Labour who will solve any and all problems with a few billion spending promise, usually without say what it would be spent on. it would be nice to hear policy first, pros & cons, then what it costs and options, and then how that might be raised (flatter the better). this is my dream.
Without wishing to turn this into a Brexit thread, keeping the UK in the customs union and the single market would not of united the country - it would have served the wants of people who didn't want Brexit. And therein lies the challenge on that particular subject - there really isn't a middle ground - regardless of which side of the argument you sit on.
The chancellor says the PM wants him to be “completely honest” with the country and that there will be difficult decisions ahead.
He says he won’t specify which departments, but he will require “all departments”, including health, to make savings, and that some taxes will have to go up.
The chancellor says the PM wants him to be “completely honest” with the country and that there will be difficult decisions ahead.
He says he won’t specify which departments, but he will require “all departments”, including health, to make savings, and that some taxes will have to go up.