Lewes District Council Cabinet Meeting Wednesday 11 January

[Bwian]

To hell with merely wrecking their political careers-I want to see them ruined financially too after all of the financial hardships this club has had to put up with thanks to these cretins.

DeVagi will never be more than she is, Baker is starting to show what a slimeball he is and Commin-who?

 

[Dave the OAP]

By their actions Baker, Commin, DeVecchi etc are taking a risk with their political careers. They are damaging BHAFC financially as a deliberate tactic. All of us should do everything we can to legitimately wreck their political careers. The fact that the LibDems are currently getting a lot of publicity is a definite advantage.
If the majority of Lewes DC voters are against the JR, then the more publicity the anti-football DeVecchi and the smug Commin get, the greater the pressure will be on them.

I am not sure the logic of that argument.

LDC backed by the environmental lobby are using this as a test case to challenge the secretary of state on his decision to allow development on land earmarked for ANOB/ or in their eyes all ready ANOB.

I was talking to a Lewes resident whose husband is a ward councillor and that is how it has been sold to them.

Quite frankly they care not two hoots that it is B&HA and would have persued this as vigorously if it had been Sainsbury's or the water board.

I did not realise that we have been mentioned as co-responsants...I thought this was straight fight between HM Gvt and LDC.

LB is this why we have no - or precious little money available for transfers at the moment? Is it still going to fighting the falmer cause fund.

 

[mona]

I am not sure the logic of that argument.

LDC backed by the environmental lobby are using this as a test case to challenge the secretary of state on his decision to allow development on land earmarked for ANOB/ or in their eyes all ready ANOB.

I was talking to a Lewes resident whose husband is a ward councillor and that is how it has been sold to them.

Quite frankly they care not two hoots that it is B&HA and would have persued this as vigorously if it had been Sainsbury's or the water board.

I did not realise that we have been mentioned as co-responsants...I thought this was straight fight between HM Gvt and LDC.

LB is this why we have no - or precious little money available for transfers at the moment? Is it still going to fighting the falmer cause fund.

Your last two paragraphs answer this and show that LDC are treating BHAFC as a special case. I don't think the uni or Southern Water would be fought against as vigorously and Sainsbury would work out a deal.

 

[mona]

To hell with merely wrecking their political careers-I want to see them ruined financially too after all of the financial hardships this club has had to put up with thanks to these cretins.

DeVagi will never be more than she is, Baker is starting to show what a slimeball he is and Commin-who?

Commin has put together a lot of the opposition. He is the Kingston(andFalmer) ward councillor and is a lecturer at BHASVIC.

 

[perseus]

I am not sure the logic of that argument.

LDC backed by the environmental lobby are using this as a test case to challenge the secretary of state on his decision to allow development on land earmarked for ANOB/ or in their eyes all ready ANOB.

I was talking to a Lewes resident whose husband is a ward councillor and that is how it has been sold to them.

Quite frankly they care not two hoots that it is B&HA and would have persued this as vigorously if it had been Sainsbury's or the water board.

I did not realise that we have been mentioned as co-responsants...I thought this was straight fight between HM Gvt and LDC.

LB is this why we have no - or precious little money available for transfers at the moment? Is it still going to fighting the falmer cause fund.

That is how "it has been sold to them".

Now we are getting to the root cause of the problem. I guessed and posted before that they (LDC) were too stupid to think up the idea on their own! So somebody put the idea in their tiny little minds?

Who could this possibly be?

I don't know the people, but you can bet your life that the person (or people) is (or was) part of the Downs lobby and has a foot in both the Downsman and the SDCB camps. (Not a Falmer NIMBY?)

Such is the managament of the SDCB that very little dissent occurs amongst their own ranks, which can sometimes indicate a heirarchal medieval leadership (a demagogue) and dogma. More akin to religion than a 21st century democracy.

 

[perseus]

PS; Maybe you cannot bet your life afterall. It could be an academic at one of the Universities. I don't think it is. I think the person (or people) ia a football hater. Any environmentalist can discriminate between a ploughed field and authentic downland.

Anybody who cared about the downs would reserve their ammunition for a case they could win.

 

[Gwylan]

Quite frankly they care not two hoots that it is B&HA and would have persued this as vigorously if it had been Sainsbury's or the water board.

Blatantly not true: LDC were happy approving the Glyndebourne extension within an AONM so it's clear that the type of development DOES matter.

Football supporters can obviously be disregared while opera supporters can't.

Hypocrites.

 

[Dave the OAP]

Blatantly not true: LDC were happy approving the Glyndebourne extension within an AONM so it's clear that the type of development DOES matter.

Football supporters can obviously be disregared while opera supporters can't.

Hypocrites.

But that was not on the edge of the soon to be South Downs thingummyjig. Reading between the lines, this appears to be the stumbling block.

 

[The Large One]

But that was not on the edge of the soon to be South Downs thingummyjig. Reading between the lines, this appears to be the stumbling block.

No, it's slap bang in the middle of it, as is the entire town of Lewes.

 

[Dave the OAP]

No, it's slap bang in the middle of it.

is it?

When I went to Glyndebourne last year, it was in the plain below the south downs....granted it was at night so I will bow to your , yet again, superior knowledge.

 

[perseus]

The SDCB are consistent. They will object to any development in an AONB that does not fall within the rules. (Unless some opera goer has got the political fix in first.)

They do not go as far as a Judicial Review unless somebody else foots the bill.

They will also object to plans not within an AONB but adjacent to it if they are informed of the plans.

They have always been dogmatic and unbending. A head-on conflict was inevitable. The Public Inquiry was the inevitable outcome. However, not all National Parks will be so inflexible.

From an observer's point of view this does not make sense because the arbitary nature of the AONB line. It means that sites of environmental importance fall outside of the AONB and they will not object, e.g. Sheepcote.

 

[The Large One]

I say slap bang, it's actually on the edge - but INSIDE the boundary. Have a butchers at this proposed section...

http://www.countryside.gov.uk/Images/Map 23_tcm2-26607.pdf

 

[Dave the OAP]

I say slap bang, it's actually on the edge - but INSIDE the boundary. Have a butchers at this proposed section...

http://www.countryside.gov.uk/Images/Map 23_tcm2-26607.pdf

Its a good job we have people like you to put us right on these things, otherwise we would just go blithly on in life in pure ignorance of the facts of Life, the Universe and Everything.

thankyou

 

[The Large One]

You might want to have a gander at this as well then. The stadium is outisde the proposed park, but the coach park is inside. None of which ought to affect Prescott's decision, because this park doesn't actually exist as a National Park yet.


http://www.countryside.gov.uk/Images/Map 32_tcm2-26629.pdf

 

[Dave the OAP]

Nah thanks...I cant be arsed with all this anymore.

if we get Falmer at some time in my life then great, if we dont then it was just not meant to be

 

[Curious Orange]

Am I right in saying that it is just the coach park that falls within the current AONB?

Going back to my earlier point about LDC talking about the National Park, the change of status from AONB to National Park would have precisely no effect on the planning decision regarding Falmer as the level of protection would remain the same - probably why it wasn't mentioned in the ODPM decision letter.

 

[Basil Fawlty]

How the hell would Stanmer Park be affected by the Stadium? what aload of bollocks LDC talk.

 

[Dave the OAP]

How the hell would Stanmer Park be affected by the Stadium? what aload of bollocks LDC talk.

acces road

 

[Curious Orange]

Yes, improving the access road would mean more people might visit it!!

 

[BensGrandad]

When will this be heard by a judge to see if there is a case to answer. Tomorrow hopefully.